the car break in

[Cher352]

I don't think PCS stands for the posession of a controlled substance because I looked around at other crimes on that map and PCS is used as a prefix on a lot of them with different descriptions.

PCS-Stealing TAF (Aut)
PCS-Burglary Residence -Occ
PCS-Stolen Auto / Vehicle Theft

 

[Cher352]

Just did a search on "police crime codes pcs" and got a lot of results for "Pental Code Section"

This sounds like what it might be.

 

[Cher352]

More searching on crime codes, see the word accusation and accused used a lot.

Maybe it was "Stealing Accusation" or "Stealing Accused"

 

[Curious Me]

PENAL CODE SECTION # is what I think PCS stands for, as well.

 

[In da Middle]

No pcs is NOT possession of controlled substance in this matter. It would be listed as a drug charge then. This site does have a drug classification

 

[Jacie Estes]

Any idea what the ACC stands for? I can think of one, Air Conditioner Compressor. They are stolen for the copper.

Accessory?

 

[loveandhugs]

Sometimes I wonder if JI made it look as though someone broke into his car. Just because someone says something happened, that doesn't mean it is the truth! Perhaps JI wanted LE to believe that the charges against him the previous month had something to do with the break in of his car, make it look like he was the victim in this. JMO


There are still many more questions than answers, and still no Lisa. I don't want to see another child missing, and no one admits responsibility. I will question everything that is being said and not believe anything until I know it is a fact, we owe it to Lisa and all the other children that are never found.

 

[linda505]

I found this interesting on the crimespot.com website

 

[linda505]

I found this interesting on the crimespot.com website

Ignore - wrong part of Lister

 

[In da Middle]

I found this interesting on the crimespot.com website

whole different neighborhood.

 

[In da Middle]

Sometimes I wonder if JI made it look as though someone broke into his car. Just because someone says something happened, that doesn't mean it is the truth! Perhaps JI wanted LE to believe that the charges against him the previous month had something to do with the break in of his car, make it look like he was the victim in this. JMO


There are still many more questions than answers, and still no Lisa. I don't want to see another child missing, and no one admits responsibility. I will question everything that is being said and not believe anything until I know it is a fact, we owe it to Lisa and all the other children that are never found.

Charges against him???????

 

[marge_rita]

Charges against him???????

I don't know what thread it's on...last night a link was posted about J having charges against him in Aug.,2011 IIRC.

imo

 

[SarahW]

I haven't uncovered any August charges against JI. That doesn't mean there aren't any, but I'd like to see that link to make sure it isn't a misunderstanding or misstatement.

 

[SarahW]

Thanks In da Middle. I was trying to suss out whether the dispatched officer discussion while responding to the 911 call in regards to a larceny complaint in regards to JI might be about the call about the vehicle break in because this report implies something else entirely and I am wondering if it is an honest error based on the wording used by the officer or sour grapes.

One of the responding officers is told about an Aug. 16 call involving Irwin.

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
The first Kansas City Police Department officers responding to a report that baby Lisa Irwin has disappeared are alerted to a recent theft complaint involving her father.

<snip>

"There was a complaint issued to a Jeremy Irwin regards to a larceny," the dispatcher tells the officer. "You can log it onto your call and also could you call me for additional information in regards to that call."

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15699795...old-of-theft-complaint-involving-babys-father

I thought that date sounded familiar, although not confirmation of my theory on this newest tidbit's origins it certainly seems possible that statement made by the officer may relate to the complaint MADE by JI on the vehicle break in. The article implies a complaint was made about him.

I think there is some confusion about this. That wording is making some people come away with the wrong idea. The "Complaint issued to" is referring to HIS call, where they dispatched officers to his house to investigate /make a report about his complaint.

 

[natsound]

omg ... what next ?

I watched this video at : http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44872173#44872173

According to the reporter, the vehicle was broken into a MONTH AGO ...

You can bet when LE and CSI were at Baby Lisa's home, they would have picked up, and sent to the lab EVERY SINGLE cigarette butt they found -- on the ground, in the home, wherever -- they would NOT have missed cig butts !

So ... was a police report filed for this "break in" and / or ... was a claim filed with the vehicle's insurance company for this "break in" ?

IMO ... these "cigarette butts" on the ground is a CROCK -- especially claiming NOW that it was from the "vehicle break in" a MONTH AGO ...

I am wondering HOW MANY cig butts were on the ground ? If it was a pile of butts, why wouldn't someone "sweep" up the butts ? And if it was a few, it is possible the weather - like rain and WIND -- MIGHT blow these BUTTS around ?

Just talking out loud here ... IMO ... this sounds like STAGING !

MOO ...

Right. When I read about the cigarette butts, I wondered if DB kept them????

 

[natsound]

I think there is some confusion about this. That wording is making some people come away with the wrong idea. The "Complaint issued to" is referring to HIS call, where they dispatched officers to his house to investigate /make a report about his complaint.

Are we sure? Because if you're making a complaint, I don't see how it would be called larceny. It sounds more like there might be a charge against him for larceny, if law enforcement/the DA wants to pursue it.

 

[marge_rita]

From this thread's discussion last night.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15699795...old-of-theft-complaint-involving-babys-father

Responding officers told of theft complaint involving baby Lisa's father


Posted: Oct 14, 2011 8:54 PM EDT Updated: Oct 14, 2011 9:00 PM EDT

By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager - email


Post 62 of this thread:
Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl

Well, that might jive with the date given in that article. The date given was 8/16.

But why word it that a complaint was issued TO JI? Wouldn't he have been the one that made the complaint?

imo

 

[curiositycat]

Are we sure? Because if you're making a complaint, I don't see how it would be called larceny. It sounds more like there might be a charge against him for larceny, if law enforcement/the DA wants to pursue it.

I don't think we know yet, either way. There is no way I would say yes it is or no it isn't at this point without clarification from the reporter who wrote the article yesterday evening.

But, after spending an hour researching what a complaint meant in the state of MO. last night, I am sure it means that a complaint was filled AGAINST an individual not by an individual.

 

[natsound]

I don't think we know yet, either way. There is no way I would say yes it is or no it isn't at this point without clarification from the reporter who wrote the article yesterday evening.

But, after spending an hour researching what a complaint meant in the state of MO. last night, I am sure it means that a complaint was filled AGAINST an individual not by an individual.

I spent a few minutes on google researching this too. I think it was a criminal complaint issued against JI. The dispatcher worded that strangely, but maybe that's their lingo. The reporter was vague about it too... wording it JI was "involved in" a theft complaint.

If the father was accused of larceny, this would also explain why JI and DB didn't voluntarily bring it up.

 

[curiositycat]

I spent a few minutes on google researching this too. I think it was a criminal complaint issued against JI. The dispatcher worded that strangely, but maybe that's their lingo. The reporter was vague about it too... wording it JI was "involved in" a theft complaint.

If the father was accused of larceny, this would also explain why JI and DB didn't voluntarily bring it up.

Well, I don't know if you have been to the police dispatch thread, but the person verified in there stated that sometimes when a police officer is dispatched they advise them of other recent calls from that location.

Maybe, it's just me but I don't think that reporter would have reported that if they didn't have something to back it up.

The date is not the same date as the car break in, that is what is confusing me. Either JI forgot when his car was broken into OR the reporter is confused.

Look how careful we have to be what we say in here, for a reporter it's the same way. The headline suggested that there was a complaint AGAINST JI.

One time, going through a nasty divorce, my ex came in the house at a time he knew we were gone and moved out all of the furniture. I called the police, told them it was stolen and that I wanted to file a report. They told me it was a civil matter and I would have to go to small claims court, yada, yada. They said that just because I said he did it did not make it so.

Maybe someone filed a complaint in small claims court against him. I don't think you can find those in public records. :waitasec: But I do know that LE sometimes serves the paperwork.

The only reason it matters to me to know the truth is because someone may have had a motive to take the baby if they were angry at JI. MOO