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There is only one way in and one way out, although it might be accessible via foot.
via foot~ that's what has my curiousity (sp) up......
There is only one way in and one way out, although it might be accessible via foot.
I tried to map it out and it appears there are yards with fences to prevent someone crossing easily from the mhp to the church via the back way.Also about the church~ just another thought provoking question (also that I sorta-semi posted on the Profile of a killer thread).....do we know if the church was accessible going out of the back of the MHP?
I tried to map it out and it appears there are yards with fences to prevent someone crossing easily from the mhp to the church via the back way.
quick thing on the church... I was just watching KRON live and they were answering questions that people tweeted in .... one of them was about the gloves...
They said that Shenehan would not confirm or deny that gloves were found under the church.
They also showed some video they took of the church search and it showed fbi using blue light inside
Fred W, a member of the church says the luggage was to be part of a rummage sale and was stolen the day Sandra went missing.
(IIRC other posters here say Connie L has since said it was hers (?) to be donated to the rummage sale. I don't have a link for that, so maybe someone else can help me out!!)
http://www.kcra.com/news/19121818/detail.html
Williams said that the mysterious black suitcase Cantu was found in was
reported stolen by another congregation member the same day Cantu disappeared.
"That suitcase was to go to the church for a rummage sale with some stuff in it and the person put it somewhere, either in the back of a car somewhere.
But anyway, when she came back out the suitcase was gone," Williams said.
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This is really strange to me. Who knew that the suitcase was put into the car?
It seems to me that the murderer would have had to know about the suitcase.
IMO, the murderer would not have killed Cantu and then walked around the Mobile Home Park
looking for something to hide her in and coincidentally found a suitcase just sitting in a car waiting to be found just when a little girl needed to be hidden and disposed of in an irrigation pond.
I'm just not buying it.
Whoever took the little girl knew exactly where to find the suitcase and did not have to look very far for a way to hide Cantu....
chicago, I read Williams had a rummage sale the day after the child went missing, but the church did NOT!
Welcome Bee to WS. You're probably around me...I am not in Tracy but about 30 or so miles away.
I have a close friend located about 5 Miles from the Orchard Estates mobile park. This case has REALLY shocked all of us in the S.F. bay are...
I wanted to share some facts about the church that were given to me from my friend in Tracy. I am not sure if any of this has been discussed..but here it goes
The Clover Road baptist Church is located Directly by 205, and is visible from the freeway. She said she has passed it several times and said you would NOT assume it was a church if it wasn't for the sign. Another interesting tidbit she shared, Fridays tends to be the worst day for traffic on 205. Stop and go if not stopped altogether. Apparently while in Traffic, if you are stopped you have a nice view of the church.. would be interesting to know if anyone did see people coming and going on the day of Sandra's disappearance.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Tracy&state=CA&address=11000+West+Clover+Road
. While she was doing research on all of this (not a websleuther but should be) she found this http://svng.com/tracy/
Not sure if this website has been seen/found by anyone else on this site.
I am not in Tracy but about 30 or so miles away.
I have a close friend located about 5 Miles from the Orchard Estates mobile park. This case has REALLY shocked all of us in the S.F. bay are...
I wanted to share some facts about the church that were given to me from my friend in Tracy. I am not sure if any of this has been discussed..but here it goes
The Clover Road baptist Church is located Directly by 205, and is visible from the freeway. She said she has passed it several times and said you would NOT assume it was a church if it wasn't for the sign. Another interesting tidbit she shared, Fridays tends to be the worst day for traffic on 205. Stop and go if not stopped altogether. Apparently while in Traffic, if you are stopped you have a nice view of the church.. would be interesting to know if anyone did see people coming and going on the day of Sandra's disappearance.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Tracy&state=CA&address=11000+West+Clover+Road
. While she was doing research on all of this (not a websleuther but should be) she found this http://svng.com/tracy/
Not sure if this website has been seen/found by anyone else on this site.
I am not in Tracy but about 30 or so miles away.
I have a close friend located about 5 Miles from the Orchard Estates mobile park. This case has REALLY shocked all of us in the S.F. bay are...
I wanted to share some facts about the church that were given to me from my friend in Tracy. I am not sure if any of this has been discussed..but here it goes
The Clover Road baptist Church is located Directly by 205, and is visible from the freeway. She said she has passed it several times and said you would NOT assume it was a church if it wasn't for the sign. Another interesting tidbit she shared, Fridays tends to be the worst day for traffic on 205. Stop and go if not stopped altogether. Apparently while in Traffic, if you are stopped you have a nice view of the church.. would be interesting to know if anyone did see people coming and going on the day of Sandra's disappearance.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Tracy&state=CA&address=11000+West+Clover+Road
I thought I had read here somewhere that she had to have been "stored" for a few days because the irrigation pond would not have been filled yet.
I was thinking she was put in the crawl space for awhile.
Poor baby girl this su**s to type!!! :furious:
Exactly! I live in Sacramento, and oftentimes drive through Tracy on my way to visit my parents in the South Bay. In fact, we just drove down here on Tuesday and satisfied my thought that yes, it is right off the freeway, you can see the church and even the side of the MHP while on 205. I about lost my lunch driving by there. And, that traffic can be horrendous at that hour, it would seem like someone would not be too afraid of being caught with so many eyes around. Maybe tomorrow when we drive home I'll see if you can see the shed from the highway.
Exactly! I live in Sacramento, and oftentimes drive through Tracy on my way to visit my parents in the South Bay. In fact, we just drove down here on Tuesday and satisfied my thought that yes, it is right off the freeway, you can see the church and even the side of the MHP while on 205. I about lost my lunch driving by there. And, that traffic can be horrendous at that hour, it would seem like someone would not be too afraid of being caught with so many eyes around. Maybe tomorrow when we drive home I'll see if you can see the shed from the highway.
Scandi, yes, Scott would have taken 205 from Modesto through Tracy to 580 up to 80 in Berkeley.Thanks from those of us who are not in the area.
O/T, Do you travel the same route Scott Peterson did when he drove to the Berkeley Marina? I would be thinking about Laci and Connor too! xox
Scandi, yes, Scott would have taken 205 from Modesto through Tracy to 580 up to 80 in Berkeley.