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I am not sure I believe Pak has a reasonable alibi, at all. The last time Pak was seen he was seen in a vehicle chasing a girl who very clearly did not want to be caught by him. Or anyone. She wanted the police to help her before the people who were trying to kill her did so.

I apologize, I am not familiar with the CVS that was mentioned or the different statements or alibis given to police by any of the suspects. Please advise?


No that's not true - there is more to Pak than meets the eye.
YOU are saying the last YOU knew of Pak he was chasing Shannan, but he left
and if you were to talk to him - he would tell you he left......

So you must have read newspapers and learned Pak was chasing Shannan with his car.
There is more to it, and should you talk to Pak (or one other person who Pak told)
you would learn.

But he had an alibi for SCPD, and it boggles the mind why SCPD let that alibi fly.
 
Ruis, his org (or even his very own council) could have ordered her to be killed, arranged the details ETC.
Ruis COULD have ordered her to be killed - you keep flip flopping.
Ruis did NOT order her to be killed. That is not what happened.




Example: shannan missing her entire larynx. Not just her hyoid bone.
Shannan was NOT missing her entire larynx - there is a report from SCME
floating around. She was NOT missing her entire hyoid bone either.


Shannan was not angry about the money,
oh yes she was.

Brewer didn't refuse to pay.
oh yes he did. There was a huge fight over money in B's house.
She called Alex from the bathroom - he spoke to her.


Her call to Suffolk would have not happened if she truly did not fear for her life.
She knew she was about to be killed, and it was over money



I think we need a federal attorney to take a long hard look at this
Call Ray Tierney - he's a Fed on Burkes case
Call Laura Gantz - another Fed from Eastern on Burke and Spota's case.
Call Richard Donahue - U.S. Attorney Eastern - go ahead - knock your self out.


To be honest, Gaga
Joe can live at the North Parole as of today, it does not free him from past criminal liability regarding the wrongful death of Shannan who worked for him.
Dude - Ruis served ONE year in prison on a 7 year sentence. He moved out west
He's trafficking girls, laundering money and moving drugs as I write this right now.
Where've you been?




Hits, whether issued from Ruis,
There you go again - talking about Ruis putting a hit on Shannan.WRONG
She wanted her money. And yes, she was in this deal with really bad guys.
So why then didn't PAK want his cut, too? eh?



I never said Ruis killed her, his bust and her involvement in his case could have been seen by his attorney as a barrier to a lesser sentence and keep in mind, these crime organizations do not fight fair.
WRONG. Ruis had hundreds of girls, she was not going to flip on him.
She was involved with the drugs that night to get the money to pay her attorney.

Alex should be serving time for forcing Shannan to work in the sex industry for money.
He forced her to do what she did.




I would love to see the indictment if you can find it.
Get the indictment. You will see that they were on Ruis for TWELVE MONTHS
they investigated him and tailed him and had wire taps for ONE YEAR
He had nothing to do with Shannan's death as you say - she would have flipped
on him. Read the indictment.
I told you
Get a "pacer" account.

Public Access to Court Electronic Records


Get the indictment. You will see the steps they took
for the past 12 months.

Ruis, his org (or even his very own council) could have ordered her to be killed, arranged the details ETC.
Ruis COULD have ordered her to be killed - you keep flip flopping.
Ruis did NOT order her to be killed. That is not what happened.




Example: shannan missing her entire larynx. Not just her hyoid bone.
Shannan was NOT missing her entire larynx - there is a report from SCME
floating around. She was NOT missing her entire hyoid bone either.


Shannan was not angry about the money,
oh yes she was.

Brewer didn't refuse to pay.
oh yes he did. There was a huge fight over money in B's house.
She called Alex from the bathroom - he spoke to her.


Her call to Suffolk would have not happened if she truly did not fear for her life.
She knew she was about to be killed, and it was over money



I think we need a federal attorney to take a long hard look at this
Call Ray Tierney - he's a Fed on Burkes case
Call Laura Gantz - another Fed from Eastern on Burke and Spota's case.
Call Richard Donahue - U.S. Attorney Eastern - go ahead - knock your self out.


To be honest, Gaga
Joe can live at the North Parole as of today, it does not free him from past criminal liability regarding the wrongful death of Shannan who worked for him. It isn't Ruis that I believe runs the entire ring.
Dude - WHAT the frig are you drinking?
Who put something in your eggnog?
free him from WHAT criminal liability - wrongful death of SG?
What the frig are you talking about?
Ruis served
ONE year in prison on a 7 year sentence.

Hello - ONE year. He moved out west

He's trafficking girls, laundering money and
moving drugs as I write this right now.
Where've you been?



Hits, whether issued from Ruis,
There you go again - talking about Ruis putting a hit on Shannan.WRONG
She wanted her money. And yes, she was in this deal with really bad guys.
So why then didn't PAK want his cut, too? eh?



I never said Ruis killed her, his bust and her involvement in his case could have been seen by his attorney as a barrier to a lesser sentence
His attorney COULD have blah blah blah - now you are thinking as an attorney FOR RUIS?
and you don't even know how to get the
actual case in Pacer? DUH and double DUH

WRONG. Ruis had hundreds of girls, she was not going to flip on him.
She was involved with the drugs that night to get the money to pay her attorney because she herself was busted in 2009, too.
Alex should be serving time for forcing Shannan to work in the sex industry for money.
He forced her to do what she did
THAT NIGHT.
He knew. He knew all about it.
He didn't even have a job.
The real estate company sued Alex and Shannan
for the rent money for May 2010. Alex, loser extreme,
never paid the rent for May. Why? He didn't have
a job - that leech was dictating to Shannan her
every move, and living off her monies, which,
oh by the way is a FEDERAL CRIME.
So when you talk to the Feds, tell um to throw Alex
Diaz in the can for the rest of his life, will you?




I would love to see the indictment if you can find it.
Get the indictment. You will see that they were on Ruis for TWELVE MONTHS
they investigated him and tailed him and had wire taps for ONE YEAR
He had nothing to do with Shannan's death as you say - she would have flipped
on him. Read the indictment.
I told you
Get a "pacer" account. Get the indictment. You will see the steps they took
for the past 12 months.


And for the record, I don't know what falling out from
Alex to Ruis you are talking about.
Ruis asked Alex to move to the West Coast
to work for him. So maybe you THINK Alex and Ruis
had a falling out....not so.
 
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Dear Mark Twang:

Here is the tip line for you to contact your powerful Fed attorney.

If you believe you have information
contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation at
https://tips.fib.gov/.

Sincerely - GAGA
Go see my latest movie - I think you'll love it.
"A Star is Born"
hahahahaha
 
Ruis, his org (or even his very own council) could have ordered her to be killed, arranged the details ETC.
Ruis COULD have ordered her to be killed - you keep flip flopping.
Ruis did NOT order her to be killed. That is not what happened.




Example: shannan missing her entire larynx. Not just her hyoid bone.
Shannan was NOT missing her entire larynx - there is a report from SCME
floating around. She was NOT missing her entire hyoid bone either.


Shannan was not angry about the money,
oh yes she was.

Brewer didn't refuse to pay.
oh yes he did. There was a huge fight over money in B's house.
She called Alex from the bathroom - he spoke to her.


Her call to Suffolk would have not happened if she truly did not fear for her life.
She knew she was about to be killed, and it was over money



I think we need a federal attorney to take a long hard look at this
Call Ray Tierney - he's a Fed on Burkes case
Call Laura Gantz - another Fed from Eastern on Burke and Spota's case.
Call Richard Donahue - U.S. Attorney Eastern - go ahead - knock your self out.


To be honest, Gaga
Joe can live at the North Parole as of today, it does not free him from past criminal liability regarding the wrongful death of Shannan who worked for him. It isn't Ruis that I believe runs the entire ring.
Dude - WHAT the frig are you drinking?
Who put something in your eggnog?
free him from WHAT criminal liability - wrongful death of SG?
What the frig are you talking about?
Ruis served
ONE year in prison on a 7 year sentence.

Hello - ONE year. He moved out west

He's trafficking girls, laundering money and
moving drugs as I write this right now.
Where've you been?



Hits, whether issued from Ruis,
There you go again - talking about Ruis putting a hit on Shannan.WRONG
She wanted her money. And yes, she was in this deal with really bad guys.
So why then didn't PAK want his cut, too? eh?



I never said Ruis killed her, his bust and her involvement in his case could have been seen by his attorney as a barrier to a lesser sentence
His attorney COULD have blah blah blah - now you are thinking as an attorney FOR RUIS?
and you don't even know how to get the
actual case in Pacer? DUH and double DUH

WRONG. Ruis had hundreds of girls, she was not going to flip on him.
She was involved with the drugs that night to get the money to pay her attorney because she herself was busted in 2009, too.
Alex should be serving time for forcing Shannan to work in the sex industry for money.
He forced her to do what she did
THAT NIGHT.
He knew. He knew all about it.
He didn't even have a job.
The real estate company sued Alex and Shannan
for the rent money for May 2010. Alex, loser extreme,
never paid the rent for May. Why? He didn't have
a job - that leech was dictating to Shannan her
every move, and living off her monies, which,
oh by the way is a FEDERAL CRIME.
So when you talk to the Feds, tell um to throw Alex
Diaz in the can for the rest of his life, will you?




I would love to see the indictment if you can find it.
Get the indictment. You will see that they were on Ruis for TWELVE MONTHS
they investigated him and tailed him and had wire taps for ONE YEAR
He had nothing to do with Shannan's death as you say - she would have flipped
on him. Read the indictment.
I told you
Get a "pacer" account. Get the indictment. You will see the steps they took
for the past 12 months.


And for the record, I don't know what falling out from
Alex to Ruis you are talking about.
Ruis asked Alex to move to the West Coast
to work for him. So maybe you THINK Alex and Ruis
had a falling out....not so.

How do you know all these things Gaga as definites? You seem like I have upset you.
 
Dear Mark Twang:

Here is the tip line for you to contact your powerful Fed attorney.

If you believe you have information
contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation at
https://tips.fib.gov/.

Sincerely - GAGA
Go see my latest movie - I think you'll love it.
"A Star is Born"
hahahahaha

US Department of Justice is who we'd need with the federal attorneys, not the FBI. They are pretty tight with one another, tho. I feel you. :)
 
How do you know all these things Gaga as definites? You seem like I have upset you.


that's it?
That's your informed response?

I've spoken to the people at the scene of the crime for years.
and you?

what frame of reference have you
conspiracy theory?
You opened your dialogue on these pages
with going after Hawkshaw and saying he harmed you
and your life
and something about the feds.

You have NO frame of reference by way of speaking
to the people who were at the scene of the crime,
and I would include Alex in that frame of reference.
He went to OB right away.
The thing is
Alex actually knows how the business works
Whether it was the business of ruis (who was OUT of gas
when SG went missing)
If there were any goods to be gotten
Alex would have been working for Ruis's replacement
Because Alex has no brains in his head, he can only
punch a girl in her jaw - break it - and be the pimp that he is.
he didn't even pay for her medical bills.


If there was a gang to be in - Alex would have been in it
as he put Ruis up on a pedestal because Ruis lived in
society hill in JC.

You are here throwing spahgetti at the wall.

Talk to Alex - Talk to pak - Talk to Brewer -
they were at the scene of the crime
 
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You did not upset me MT.
You came aboard with a theory
I liked it and ran with it

Then it turns out
it is just a conspiracy theory

unless you know Ruis. and have spoken to him
unless you have read his indictment, which you haven't

You are virtually blindfolded to reality.
That's all Im saying.
For the record, I reached out to Ruis to talk to him.
I'd love to talk to him.

I have found this case absolutely fascinating.
and the most amazing thing is
Once you get to the criminals
they are only too happy to speak
Because they have been in hiding for so many years
and have been silenced.
 
that's it?
That's your informed response?
I've spoken to the people at the scene of the crime for years.
and you?

what frame of reference have you
conspiracy theory?
You opened your dialogue on these pages with going after Hawkshaw and saying he harmed you and your life and something about the feds.

You have NO frame of reference by way of speaking to the people who were at the scene of the crime, and I would include Alex in that frame of reference.

He went to OB right away.
The thing is Alex actually knows how the business works

Whether it was the business of ruis (who was OUT of gas
when SG went missing)
If there were any goods to be gottenAlex would have been working for Ruis's replacement
Because Alex has no brains in his head, he can only punch a girl in her jaw - break it - and be the pimp that he is he didn't even pay for her medical bills.

If there was a gang to be in - Alex would have been in it as he put Ruis up on a pedestal because Ruis lived in society hill in JC.

You are here throwing spahgetti at the wall.

Talk to Alex - Talk to pak - Talk to Brewer -they were at the scene of the crime

On Hawkshaw: I asked you to please not bring him up again be because this is not about him.

On Alex, he had a falling out with Ruis and Ruis fired him, keeping Pak and Shannon on staff. This is why he [Alex] had no job. I thought you would have known that much.

Alex glorified and worshiped Ruis and placed him on a pedestal because he was a legitimate mobster laundering 3 million dollars in a drug trafficking and a prostitution ring and was higher ranking. I am sure there is quite a bit of Status to admire about Ruis.

A domestic abuser would fit in quite well with Ruis and his sexual exploitation business...until he puts a piece of his merchandise in the hospital for months and creates scars on her face.

Think about how much money that set Ruis back. Shannan was probably one of his prettiest girls and highest earners. Everybody knows you don't damage the merchandise and leave marks on the girls in "the business of women". If you abuse them, you have to use the correct method that leaves no marks. Certainly, you should have known that much!

Alex, certainly, had quite a bit to learn and if he was such a profitable gangbanger, as you say, that rent would have been paid in full on the first of May.

I am very sorry to hear about Ruis and his fuel shortage on May 1, 2010. Tell me something, how is the luckiest duck in the eastern European mobs chain of command? I wonder how he is. I do bet he did want Alex to come see him in Cali. I am quite sure the two have quite a bit of unfinished business to conduct.

Maybe he should go see Ruis and make this a tri-state investigation. My, my. Cali, NJ and NY would have a field day with Ruis. He just loves wading into federal waters, don't he?! Hahaha.

So...My frame of reference: someone went through a great deal of trouble and left me a Giuliani book one day as a gift. [Wink, wink..Nudge at Hawkshaw] So, lately, I have been using the Giuliani model for Federal Racketeering cases? In the model, (this may be hard to believe, but come to find out) this "Giuliani" fellow discusses quite clearly the methodology on how to throw spaghetti at a wall to ensure it sticks.

Super inspiring, isn't it?
That should be all for now, do you have anymore questions for me Gaga?
 
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On Hawkshaw: I asked you to please not bring him up again be because this is not about him.

On Alex, he had a falling out with Ruis and Ruis fired him, keeping Pak and Shannon on staff. This is why he [Alex] had no job. I thought you would have known that much.

Alex glorified and worshiped Ruis and placed him on a pedestal because he was a legitimate mobster laundering 3 million dollars in a drug trafficking and a prostitution ring and was higher ranking. I am sure there is quite a bit of Status to admire about Ruis.

A domestic abuser would fit in quite well with Ruis and his sexual exploitation business...until he puts a piece of his merchandise in the hospital for months and creates scars on her face.

Think about how much money that set Ruis back. Shannan was probably one of his prettiest girls and highest earners. Everybody knows you don't damage the merchandise and leave marks on the girls in "the business of women". If you abuse them, you have to use the correct method that leaves no marks. Certainly, you should have known that much!

Alex, certainly, had quite a bit to learn and if he was such a profitable gangbanger, as you say, that rent would have been paid in full on the first of May.

I am very sorry to hear about Ruis and his fuel shortage on May 1, 2010. Tell me something, how is the luckiest duck in the eastern European mobs chain of command? I wonder how he is. I do bet he did want Alex to come see him in Cali. I am quite sure the two have quite a bit of unfinished business to conduct.

Maybe he should go see Ruis and make this a tri-state investigation. My, my. Cali, NJ and NY would have a field day with Ruis. He just loves wading into federal waters, don't he?! Hahaha.

So...My frame of reference: someone went through a great deal of trouble and left me a Giuliani book one day as a gift. [Wink, wink..Nudge at Hawkshaw] So, lately, I have been using the Giuliani model for Federal Racketeering cases? In the model, (this may be hard to believe, but come to find out) this "Giuliani" fellow discusses quite clearly the methodology on how to throw spaghetti at a wall to ensure it sticks.

Super inspiring, isn't it?
That should be all for now, do you have anymore questions for me Gaga?


On Hawkshaw: I asked you to please not bring him up again
Don't worry I won't.

On Alex, he had a falling out with Ruis and Ruis fired him,
keeping Pak and Shannon on staff.
This is why he [Alex] had no job. I thought you would have known.

How do you know Pak was on staff at Ruis's.
Are you making that one up too?



Please tell me all about the Ruis/Alex falling out.
Alex is a very dim bulb. No brains a'tall and I often wondered
if Ruis just liked the fact that he had a stooge who idolized him.
No ambition Alex Diaz. Alex had NO job because Alex is the laziest
Person on the earth, with no ambition. He has rocks in his head
where the synapsis should have been firing and connecting.
NO ONE is home - so I often wondered - why Ruis even tolerated
Diaz.


That should be all for now, do you have anymore
questions for me Gaga?


Please do tell what the falling out was about.
I'm keen to know.
Ruis did not break Shannan's jaw - Alex the brute did.
 
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On Hawkshaw: I asked you to please not bring him up again
Don't worry I won't.

On Alex, he had a falling out with Ruis and Ruis fired him,
keeping Pak and Shannon on staff.
This is why he [Alex] had no job. I thought you would have known.

How do you know Pak was on staff at Ruis's.
Are you making that one up too?



Please tell me all about the Ruis/Alex falling out.
Alex is a very dim bulb. No brains a'tall and I often wondered
if Ruis just liked the fact that he had a stooge who idolized him.
No ambition Alex Diaz. Alex had NO job because Alex is the laziest
Person on the earth, with no ambition. He has rocks in his head
where the synapsis should have been firing and connecting.
NO ONE is home - so I often wondered - why Ruis even tolerated
Diaz.


That should be all for now, do you have anymore
questions for me Gaga?


Please do tell what the falling out was about.
I'm keen to know.
Ruis did not break Shannan's jaw - Alex the brute did.

Yes. Alex Diaz broke Shannan's jaw....Shannan's jaw (and the rest of Shannan) belonged to Ruis.

Ruis fired Alex for damaging his property and costing him money while Shannan was in recovery. He still kept Shannan on staff, as well as Pak. This why Alex was not her driver and Pak was.

You might want to re-read my replies I think you're getting what I am actually saying mixed up with what you think I am saying.

I apologize if I have upset you in some way and this is why you are angry with me. It was not my intention.
 
No that's not true - there is more to Pak than meets the eye.
YOU are saying the last YOU knew of Pak he was chasing Shannan, but he left
and if you were to talk to him - he would tell you he left......

So you must have read newspapers and learned Pak was chasing Shannan with his car.
There is more to it, and should you talk to Pak (or one other person who Pak told)
you would learn.

But he had an alibi for SCPD, and it boggles the mind why SCPD let that alibi fly.

There are witnesses saying that is what Pak was doing, in his SUV and saw Shannan running from him. I'm not sure what more I need from Pak regarding his actions while Shannan was on the phone with Suffolk County dispatch. I would love to hear another version of events if you have one?
 
Alex told me that Pak arranged it and it was on his laptop.
which is one of the (many) reasons Pak ran outta Oak Beach that night.
Yes, it is extremely rare for a driver/pimp to meet the John
almost never ever happens, so, it was a very unique set of
circumstances on May 1 @ Brewer's.


Actually Shannann's lap top was at home with Alex that night.
After Shannan did not come back, Alex brought Sherre the
laptop and Shannan's cat Artie.

It was a drug deal, you are the first person to lay claim to it.
Yup - you're very correct. Yes, she was set up and used
and played like a fiddle.
Pak had an alibi.
Do you know what it was?
I do - you say what it was - and I'll tell you more,
becuase you are the first person of all time
to be 100% spot on.

What one needs to know is the agency that sent Shannan

and that has been kept extremely hush hush by
both Brewer and Pak.

I understand Shannan had to be killed because
she was ratting them out,
So why has it taken LE on L.I. so long to connect
the dots

who tackled Shannan to shut her phone off?
Who took her body?
where did they put her body for a year and a half.
Why is Pak still alive?
How come he hasn't been whacked.


Shannan and Brewer did NOT go to CVS
to ky jelly. That was a whopper of a lie.
Pak went - he had to do something there
of a business nature.
No one knows - but if you know "the business"
you will know exactly why Pak went to THAT CVS.

What are the technological capabilities of these burners around 2010? She could have had a GPS tracker that only IT in the enterprise could trace which was why Suffolk could not find her but the killer most certainly could. Anyone think about this angle, besides Hawk?
 
Yes. Alex Diaz broke Shannan's jaw....Shannan's jaw (and the rest of Shannan) belonged to Ruis.

Ruis fired Alex for damaging his property and costing him money while Shannan was in recovery. He still kept Shannan on staff, as well as Pak. This why Alex was not her driver and Pak was.

You might want to re-read my replies I think you're getting what I am actually saying mixed up with what you think I am saying.

I apologize if I have upset you in some way and this is why you are angry with me. It was not my intention.

Alex is an idiot. No doubt about it.
But Ruis got over it. AD is in CA with JR. Trust me on that one.
AD got into some drug trouble here in Jersey.
He wanted outta here.

You are confusing, not me.
You say one thing and then flip and say the opposite
only to go back to the first thing you said and flip again.


Alex broke Shannan's jaw in 2008 shortly after they started living together.
Ruis was out of business in 2009.
Shannan was killed in 2010 almost a year to the day that Ruis was shut down.

You started the thread by saying that Ruis either DID or DID NOT put a hit out
on Shannan, and if not Ruis, then Ruis's boss man.

Because they were going to court in June 2010.

Ruis did not have to have a hit on Shannan in a gated community
after a night of work benefitting everyone but Shannan.

He could have had a hit on her when it was NOT connected to illegal
criminal enterprise.

She was running from ONE person. Michael Pak.
She was petrified for her life from ONE person - Michael Pak.

Pak did not have a contract to kill Shannan from Ruis.

You stated it was a drug deal and she was a drug mule.
Yup- on that part - you are correct.
The rest - you have some serious 'splainin' to do

and leave Guiliani out of it, if you don't mind.
He was a s***bag prosecutor who only steered his criminal
cases to pave the way for him to be U.S. Attorney
and remember, when he was Mayor
he whined and cried like a sissy girl and didn't want to leave office
for Bloomberg to come aboard.

Im no fan of Guiliani - not at all.
I have my reasons, I used to work with his wife when I worked in TV.




 
What are the technological capabilities of these burners around 2010? She could have had a GPS tracker that only IT in the enterprise could trace which was why Suffolk could not find her but the killer most certainly could. Anyone think about this angle, besides Hawk?




Wishing you a tremendously excellent Yuletide
and keep on enjoying that Eggnog MARK TWANG.
In the world according to Mark - you have it all figured out
well - it's 8 1/2 years later
and you have yet to mention the lawsuit against
the one legged Druggie dr.

hmmmmm????
that is the only thing that matters - in a court of law
that lawsuit.
allegedly - he killed Shannan
So was the doc working for J Ruis?
Pak worked for Ruis
You didn't say how you knew that
No one knows that but you
so how do you know that?
 
So...My frame of reference: someone went through a great deal of trouble and left me a Giuliani book one day as a gift. [Wink, wink..Nudge at Hawkshaw] So, lately, I have been using the Giuliani model for Federal Racketeering cases? In the model, (this may be hard to believe, but come to find out) this "Giuliani" fellow discusses quite clearly the methodology on how to throw spaghetti at a wall to ensure it sticks.


That should be all for now, do you have anymore questions for me Gaga?

The difference between you and Guiliani is that he went to
college undergrad for 4 years, and then law school for 3 years,
so that is 7 years of training your brain in high education
and neither you nor Hawk even went to college. Guiliani
was a Federal Prosecutor working with the smartest lawyers
in the United States. He's wicked smart, yes, indeed.
It's good that you know how to read, how very enlightening.

If you want to learn about things Federal, then go to Federal court
and sit in on hearings, sentencing, et al.
For the record, Alex didn't even graduate High School,
and Pak only went to college for one semester.

I doubt Ruis went past High School, do you know how far
along he came in structured collegiate studies?
He seems to have been a lucky duck, yes
But there are people in a criminal enterprise that make
3 million in a much shorter amount of time than one year.
He's nothing special to me,
Only to you and to Alex Diaz.
 
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The difference between you and Guiliani is that he went to
college undergrad for 4 years, and then law school for 3 years,
so that is 7 years of training your brain in high education
and neither you nor Hawk even went to college. Guiliani
was a Federal Prosecutor working with the smartest lawyers
in the United States. He's wicked smart, yes, indeed.
It's good that you know how to read, how very enlightening.

If you want to learn about things Federal, then go to Federal court
and sit in on hearings, sentencing, et al.
For the record, Alex didn't even graduate High School,
and Pak only went to college for one semester.

I doubt Ruis went past High School, do you know how far
along he came in structured collegiate studies?
He seems to have been a lucky duck, yes
But there are people in a criminal enterprise that make
3 million in a much shorter amount of time than one year.
He's nothing special to me,
Only to you and to Alex Diaz.

You are too much. Well since I am so off the mark, please, tell me how this really went down, Gaga? I certainly am interested in your perspective.
 
Ruis served ONE year in prison on a 7 year sentence.

Hello - ONE year. He moved out west

He's trafficking girls, laundering money and
moving drugs as I write this right now.

He served 5 out of 7 years and has since been paroled.

You also state that SCME did an autopsy but Shannan Gilbert's family had an independent autopsy done. Where you been, Gaga?

Further, this independent autopsy was probably done by a BOARD CERTIFIED medical examiner, not an elected coroner who needs to keep the results very non-threatening to the people that will be electing him or her during the next election.

A coroner has no legitimate formal training, they are elected are not required to be board certified forensic pathologists. Where you been, Gaga?

Here is the positive thing: If Ruis is truly out in California like you suggest, allow him to commit a similar killing there. All of their medical examiners are required to be board certified in forensic pathology. I wish him the very best in his future exploits, may they land him back in jail. Cheers to the thought of it.

So, where you been, Gaga? No more replies?
 
It was a drug deal, you are the first person to lay claim to it.
Yup - you're very correct. Yes, she was set up and used
and played like a fiddle.
Pak had an alibi.
Do you know what it was?
I do - you say what it was - and I'll tell you more,
becuase you are the first person of all time
to be 100% spot on.
It was a drug deal, you are the first person to lay claim to it.
Yup - you're very correct. Yes, she was set up and used
and played like a fiddle.
Pak had an alibi.
Do you know what it was?
I do - you say what it was - and I'll tell you more,
becuase you are the first person of all time
to be 100% spot on.

What one needs to know is the agency that sent Shannan

and that has been kept extremely hush hush by
both Brewer and Pak.

I understand Shannan had to be killed because
she was ratting them out,
So why has it taken LE on L.I. so long to connect
the dots

who tackled Shannan to shut her phone off?
Who took her body?
where did they put her body for a year and a half.
Why is Pak still alive?
How come he hasn't been whacked.


Shannan and Brewer did NOT go to CVS
to ky jelly. That was a whopper of a lie.
Pak went - he had to do something there
of a business nature.
No one knows - but if you know "the business"
you will know exactly why Pak went to THAT CVS.

Let's go back to what you said here, Gaga. Seemed we were briefly on the same page.
 
I believe the property is up for sale at "8 The Fairway Oak Beach, NY 11702" 4b/2ba $2,400 square feet. $500,000 asking price.

What interests me the most is the property location. He had a better scouting position that Gus Colletti did. You can see Oak Beach Road and over that road to Ocean Parkway (right at the turn around) where drops could be made. The opposite view, there is a clear view of the ocean, as well.

I do not believe the house had HVAC and only wall heaters and air conditioning units in the windows.

Can anyone go check to see whether Brewer was cooking meth or cutting cocaine in there? There should be residue in the walls and insulation. Under the stove and in the grout.

Maybe Pak went to get cold medicine for Brewer, batteries or had to pick up baby laxative to cut the cocaine?

I don't think the house had the ventilation capabilities to be a place that cooked methamphetamine, but cutting cocaine or heroin is another story.

At CVS there could only be OTC items purchased, that late. Cold medicine and batteries would be for meth, and meth has a VERY strong permeating smell. He could not conceal that kind of operation from SCPD. Baby laxative would be purchased for cocaine, baking soda for cooking crack cocaine. Painkillers and opiates would be to cut heroin, however, once again, the pharmacy would not have been open that late.

I do believe Brewer could have been Brewing.

The book "Lost Girls" says the odor noticed from his home smelled like "cats". One component of "cat urine" is ammonia.

I have no idea if ammonia is used to cook drugs, but it is possible. Maybe MDMA?

Update: Manufacturing ecstasy requires several toxic chemicals, including formaldehyde, mercury, and ammonium chloride. Could that give off the "cat" urine smell? Please advise?

Also, Brewer may have gotten upset with Shannan first. She reportedly brought up whether he had accidentally booked a transgendered escort and this is when the altercation started.

Is there any chance Shannan knew about John Doe? Brewers reaction was to get her out of the house because he suspected her of being transgendered. I think he may have thought she was wearing a wire. I think Brewer got triggered. I think his reaction could have reasonably triggered Shannan to be in fear for her life if she knew about other disappearances.
 
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Pictures of Brewers house
with Mari Gilbert checking it out
Oct. 23, 2011.
There are only 3 people who know what happened that night
Brewer, Pak and Hackett.
 

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