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johnfear said: So, apparently the lean in this case is towards no retrial.
Well, JLY doesn't just walk. They either retry or offer him a 2nd degree plea deal like Ann Miller Kontz...imo
1) Was Gracie's height estimate based on the sticker by the door? (They have a 4-7 foot mark in there that's been there for a while, but getting crappy now, basically to give the general height in the midst of madness)
Gracie told Spivey early on he was "tall and had blondish hair" (Spivey read his notes at supression hearing). 4 1/2 years later at the supression hearing, she said "a little taller than her and not much hair". BH screwed up royally by not rehabilitating this witness by refresh her memory of what she told the cops early on. Did "little hair" mean he didn't have a shaggy mullet growing down his neck??? Why did BH not ask her about the SUV she saw him in?
2) How real is the DNA mess they didn't explain fully as far as unidentified? Feels like both sides muddied the waters there?
The unknown DNA on the camera was the biggest, imo. Very likely it was Elmer's...they need to prove that in round 2. Plus, the location was on top of the camera. JLY just yanked out the video cable and then jumped up and pushed it up toward the ceiling. The DNA on the rock had 3 markers for JLY.
3) Any truth to the 30 blows? (I have some questions about why this wasn't a bigger issue. 30 blows by an angry husband seems right. Not by a random "burglar", etc. But, without consulting a Ouija, can they tell how many were pre versus post mortem? I've been listening to someone else's diatribe about how that many blows indicates to them a woman was involved. Sound familiar?)
She had 2 skull fractures and many vicious wounds deep to her skull. Her jaw was broken so bad, it shattered and protruded from the inside out. Yes, obviously done by a very angry insider that wanted her DEAD. Lack of defensive wounds on JLY was totally expected. This was a vicious ambush of a petite pregnant woman.
4) Did the inventory of the valuables remain incomplete because of JY's lack of involvement or was it ever finalized?
He told mama exactly what was in the drawers and she told Spivey 6 months later. She added there was $500 cash in a new wallet missing from his closet.
BH should have grilled her on this BS story, as it would have shown the jury the whole thing was staged. So they wanted jewelry and money, yet totally ignored MY's purse in plain view on the kitchen floor?
5) Why has the minor child not been brought into this one (at least from a press perspective with regard to what happened. I know she can't testify or accurately recreate but she was there.) from the perspective of being a key piece of credible evidence? Footprints, 911 call, etc. Anyone know when those things were ruled on and why?
The cops screwed up by not immediately having a child psychologist interview her that day. When JLY took control, it was too late, cause he would need to give permission.,,,,obviously not gonna happen
So you guys know where I stand, I think he did it/had a hand in it/did it with someone else/paid for it to be done.
I too think the state will need to concede in opening statements there may well have been 1-2 additional people in that house at some point during or after the murder. The witness that swears she saw 2 in a minivan at 5:30AM, the size 10 shoes, unknown DNA on the box, cig butts and the hair can be immediately explained if they concede possible conspiracy. Personally, I think he acted alone, but they will need to defuse the defense main argument and hit home he is still guilty of 1st degree murder if he was in the house too...his missing size 12 HP prints go to prove that.
Well, JLY doesn't just walk. They either retry or offer him a 2nd degree plea deal like Ann Miller Kontz...imo
1) Was Gracie's height estimate based on the sticker by the door? (They have a 4-7 foot mark in there that's been there for a while, but getting crappy now, basically to give the general height in the midst of madness)
Gracie told Spivey early on he was "tall and had blondish hair" (Spivey read his notes at supression hearing). 4 1/2 years later at the supression hearing, she said "a little taller than her and not much hair". BH screwed up royally by not rehabilitating this witness by refresh her memory of what she told the cops early on. Did "little hair" mean he didn't have a shaggy mullet growing down his neck??? Why did BH not ask her about the SUV she saw him in?
2) How real is the DNA mess they didn't explain fully as far as unidentified? Feels like both sides muddied the waters there?
The unknown DNA on the camera was the biggest, imo. Very likely it was Elmer's...they need to prove that in round 2. Plus, the location was on top of the camera. JLY just yanked out the video cable and then jumped up and pushed it up toward the ceiling. The DNA on the rock had 3 markers for JLY.
3) Any truth to the 30 blows? (I have some questions about why this wasn't a bigger issue. 30 blows by an angry husband seems right. Not by a random "burglar", etc. But, without consulting a Ouija, can they tell how many were pre versus post mortem? I've been listening to someone else's diatribe about how that many blows indicates to them a woman was involved. Sound familiar?)
She had 2 skull fractures and many vicious wounds deep to her skull. Her jaw was broken so bad, it shattered and protruded from the inside out. Yes, obviously done by a very angry insider that wanted her DEAD. Lack of defensive wounds on JLY was totally expected. This was a vicious ambush of a petite pregnant woman.
4) Did the inventory of the valuables remain incomplete because of JY's lack of involvement or was it ever finalized?
He told mama exactly what was in the drawers and she told Spivey 6 months later. She added there was $500 cash in a new wallet missing from his closet.
BH should have grilled her on this BS story, as it would have shown the jury the whole thing was staged. So they wanted jewelry and money, yet totally ignored MY's purse in plain view on the kitchen floor?
5) Why has the minor child not been brought into this one (at least from a press perspective with regard to what happened. I know she can't testify or accurately recreate but she was there.) from the perspective of being a key piece of credible evidence? Footprints, 911 call, etc. Anyone know when those things were ruled on and why?
The cops screwed up by not immediately having a child psychologist interview her that day. When JLY took control, it was too late, cause he would need to give permission.,,,,obviously not gonna happen
So you guys know where I stand, I think he did it/had a hand in it/did it with someone else/paid for it to be done.
I too think the state will need to concede in opening statements there may well have been 1-2 additional people in that house at some point during or after the murder. The witness that swears she saw 2 in a minivan at 5:30AM, the size 10 shoes, unknown DNA on the box, cig butts and the hair can be immediately explained if they concede possible conspiracy. Personally, I think he acted alone, but they will need to defuse the defense main argument and hit home he is still guilty of 1st degree murder if he was in the house too...his missing size 12 HP prints go to prove that.