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Bringing over from the HM:
Maya Durkovic – the other inmate besides Robyn that Casey passed notes with. She is a bad-*advertiser censored* gang member that choked to death a 15 year old girl named Jackie Curtis.

http://florida-issues.blogspot.com/2007/10/jailed-orange-teen-admits-she-killed.html

Wow! Just wow. If KC was communicating with her it could have gone several diferent ways. If MD regrets fessing up to her crime she could have been advising KC not to break, to keep mum.

If this MD still feels that confessing was the right thing to have done and is more at peace having done so, so could have been encouraging KC to spill. KC could also, knowing a little of this girl's story, have thought this is the most fitting person to communicate with while trying to figure out if she should just finally give up the games and tell the truth for once.

hmmm. Can't wait to get a look at those notes.
 
Hi, new here....

Have you guys discussed the very large possibility that Casey knows some of these corrections officers...Kronk's fiance....her ex fling. Something makes me feel like there is more with the whole LE relationships. Jesse, her Dad, .....
 
I've beeb trying to find a "connection" with either of these two - something they and KC might have had in common.

In this article about the gang member inmate:

Jailed Orange teen admits she killed girl
SENTINEL EXCLUSIVEOctober 16, 2007|By Henry Pierson Curtis and Sarah Lundy, Sentinel Staff Writers

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-10-16/news/deadfolo16_1_goldenrod-lundy-retention-pond


On page 2 - after they found the body - it says the coroner was unable to establish COD - so the COD was listed as "UNDETERMINED"!!!

Could it be the "chit-chat" went along the lines of "how can they say it was me? they couldn't even determined how she died." And then the other one speaks up with "yea, they said the same thing here - but I confessed to it".

interesting no?
 
I cannot wait to read these letters. Just thinking about the dynamics in the relationship between these dangerous women and Casey is fascinating. Considering her chameleon like personality, would Casey portray herself as a goody two shoes, mother of the year, or ingratiate herself to fit in. I think she would try to come across as tough but then she had to know these women could turn on her. The possibilities are intriguing...
 
:banghead: Its gonna be a long hard wait til we can get a look at these notes.

But, the possibilities. It is most intruiging. The endless possibilities.
 
Bringing over from the HM:
Maya Durkovic – the other inmate besides Robyn that Casey passed notes with. She is a bad-*advertiser censored* gang member that choked to death a 15 year old girl named Jackie Curtis.

http://florida-issues.blogspot.com/2007/10/jailed-orange-teen-admits-she-killed.html

"Taking somebody's life is something I cannot imagine any child of mine doing. I can't imagine what that other girl's mother is feeling," she said. "For my child it is too late. If she did it, she's going to have to deal with herself. Someone else may learn from what happens to her."

Above is the statement in the artricle that Durkovic's mother made. Maybe we would have all felt differently about CA if she had made a similar statement about KC instead of trying to fix all the loose ends that KC left (cleaning the car, wrong hairbrush to LE, etc.) and NOT ONCE thinking about poor little Caylee.
 
Lots of good information, at the link below, on Maya Derkovic.

[ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4949904"]Amateur Astrological Info on CASEY and CAYLEE: #13 - Page 8 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
 
Casey plays the 'poor me' ,the victim of whom "everything has been taken from her "-- I can not see this girl ever telling the truth of what happen with Caylee to anyone.
 
SS, Tuba & all,
Found a DOB for SH...one of our alleged letter writers!
FDLE Partners with Local and Federal Law Enforcement to Thwart Stolen Baby Formula Ring
Mar 06, 2009
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The Polk County Sheriff&#8217;s Office (PCSO) and Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), working in conjunction with the State Attorney&#8217;s Office (SAO) of the Tenth Judicial Circuit, U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Criminal Investigations Division, have shut down an elaborate retail theft ring operating in the central Florida area responsible for the theft of thousands of cans of powdered baby formula, spanning throughout the southeastern United States. In all, 40 detectives working from October 2008 to March 2009, arrested 21 suspects who were stealing baby formula from 6 different counties (Polk, Highlands, Hillsborough, Manatee, Orange, and Osceola) and transporting it out of state.

The investigation began on October 11, 2008, during a traffic stop in Polk County on two vehicles in response to a BOLO (Be On Look Out) for an armed aggravated battery suspect. The vehicles matched the suspect vehicle description. During the traffic stop it was determined the occupants of the vehicle were illegal aliens and were in possession of stolen baby formula. Seven suspects were arrested*.

In all, 21 arrests have been made, and over 3,000 cans of stolen powdered baby formula have been seized, with a retail value of $75,000 (the cans average in value $25.00 per can). Last week alone, detectives seized 1,955 cans of formula, which was one week&#8217;s worth of work for the boosters. At $25.00 per can, $48,875 worth of formula was stolen in one week, which means in one year, the suspects stole $2.5 Million worth of formula. One suspect told detectives she has been doing this for 7 years. At $2.5 Million per year, her group was responsible for stealing $17.5 Million worth of formula.

*The first 13 arrests made in October 2008:

Silvia Hernandez, DOB 10-12-1990

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content...ers-with-Local-and-Federal-Law-Enforceme.aspx
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Here's 3 articles for the other alleged KC letter writer RA!

Altamonte police officer pleads guilty to growing marijuana
October 11, 2008
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An Altamonte Springs police officer accused of setting up a marijuana grow house and owning an arsenal of handguns, rifles and shotguns to defend it pleaded guilty Friday in Orlando federal court.

Clay Adams, 36, who lives near Altamonte Springs, will likely be sentenced to at least 15 years in prison. He pleaded guilty to five federal charges, including conspiring with his wife to grow 2,200 pounds of marijuana. Adams and his wife, Robyn, 32, were arrested July 21, hours after rigging a house in Chuluota with hydroponic equipment and grow lights and getting marijuana seeds to sprout, according to his plea agreement. Both husband and wife confessed. At a separate hearing Friday, a tearful Robyn Adams pleaded guilty to two charges: conspiracy and a weapons count. She likely will face at least 10 years in prison.

Article:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...nte-springs-police-robyn-marijuana-grow-house
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Altamonte cop, wife charged in drug plot
July 23, 2008
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Clay Adams lived two lives: one as an Altamonte Springs cop, the other as a painkiller-addicted, marijuana grow-house operator who was scheming to kill a former supervisor.

That's how authorities described it Tuesday when Adams, 36, and his wife, Robyn, 32, were hauled into federal court in Orlando on drug and weapons charges.

Their arrests Monday night shocked the Altamonte Springs Police Department, where Adams had worked for nine years. It hit us out of left field," agency spokesman Robert Pelton said.

The couple appeared at a 10-minute bail hearing Tuesday afternoon, wearing orange Seminole County Jail jumpsuits with leg shackles. Robyn Adams wept.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Rob Bodnar sought to have the couple -- who could face up to life in prison if convicted -- held, noting both made threats to a police informant and others. At the request of defense attorneys, U.S. Magistrate David Baker delayed the hearing until Friday. He ordered both held without bail.

Robyn Adams, an employee at a surgeon's office, obtained illicit prescriptions for her husband and marijuana seeds from the Netherlands via the Internet, according to a complaint filed by Agent Timothy Gunning of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

According to federal court documents, Adams was recently kicked out of a countywide drug task force in Seminole County, the City-County Investigative Bureau.

Article:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...robyn-adams-marijuana-seeds-marijuana-growing
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Ex-cop who grew drugs sentenced to 17 years in prison
January 10, 2009
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A former Altamonte Springs cop charged with setting up a marijuana grow house and giving a convicted felon the IDs of local drug agents was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison Friday. Clay Adams pleaded guilty in October to multiple federal weapons charges and one count of conspiring with his wife, Robyn, to grow more than 2,000 pounds of marijuana.

The couple, who lived near Altamonte Springs, were arrested in July after setting up a marijuana grow operation in a Chuluota home.

Antoon also accepted Robyn Adams' plea agreement Friday. She was sentenced to 10 years in prison.


Adams, 32, cried throughout her hearing and also gave a statement to Antoon. She asked the judge for mercy and said she has two children who need their mother. "I'm truly remorseful, your honor," she said. This experience, she said, "has not only changed my attitude . . . it has changed my entire life. My entire outlook on life."

Article:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-01-10/news/adams10_1_clay-adams-antoon-marijuana-grow
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From this WFTV video the other writer is Maya Derkovic...NOT SH!

My mistake about RA...That's what I get for not waking up all the way after a nap & posting! :blushing:


VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Pen Pals Revealed 2:18
http://www.wftv.com/video/22884130/index.html

Here are a couple of articles etc. about MD!


Audio:Hear Maya Derkovic describe the night she and two others took part in killing Jackie Curtis
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-confession101507-mp3,0,3006841.mp3file
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Arrests Made In Death Of Winter Park Teen
Monday, May 18, 2009 5:12:26 PM
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Three people are under arrest in the death of a Winter Park teenager. The body of Harriet Curtis, 16, was found in January in a retention pond near Goldenrod Road.

The medical examiner did an autopsy, but could not determine the exact cause of her death. Deputies said an anonymous tip led them to the suspects, who are now charged with Curtis' murder.

Maya Derkovic, Amiri Lundy, and Dominique Tolbert were all arrested. Lundy and Tolbert were already in jail on an unrelated case.


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Article:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2007/10/15/arrests_made_in_death_of_winter_park_teen.html
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Female gang member pleads guilty in slaying of teen
posted by willoughby mariano on March, 19 2008 9:34 AM
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Jackie "Angel" Curtis was choked to death and found near a pond Jan. 18, 2007. Maya Derkovic, 19, agreed to testify against two fellow gang members.

Here&#8217;s the latest from Sentinel reporter Sarah Lundy.

Maya Derkovic, 19, of Deltona was sentenced by Orange Circuit Judge Tim
Shea on Feb. 26. In a plea deal, she pleaded no contest to
second-degree murder and agreed to testify against two fellow gang
members charged in the case.


Article:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_homicide/2008/03/female-gang-mem.html
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30-year sentence in teen's killing
March 19, 2008
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A female gang member who pleaded no contest to the 2007 choking death of another teen in southeast Orange County, was sentenced last month to 30 years in prison.

Maya Derkovic, 19, of Deltona was sentenced by Orange Circuit Judge Tim Shea on Feb. 26. In a plea deal, she pleaded no contest to second-degree murder and agreed to testify against two fellow gang members charged in the case.

Jackie "Angel" Curtis' decomposed body was found near a South Goldenrod Road pond Jan. 18, 2007, where sheriff's detectives say Jackie, 15, was lured nine days earlier. Derkovic was jailed Jan. 28, 2007, with her boyfriend on unrelated carjacking charges and told authorities about Jackie's killing. She received 26 months in the carjacking.


Article:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-03-19/news/cfbriefs19_6_1_carjacking-goldenrod-choking
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Jailed Orange teen admits she killed girl
October 16, 2007
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The face of Jackie "Angel" Curtis haunted Maya Derkovic for the past nine months. Finally, the 18-year-old gang member and Orange County Jail inmate couldn't keep her secret anymore. In an effort to find peace, she told a jailer and later detectives how she choked 15-year-old Angel while two fellow gang members held the victim's arms.

Derkovic's story helped unravel a mystery that began Jan. 18 when Angel's badly decomposed body was found along the edge of a retention pond near Goldenrod Road. "What I did was terribly wrong," Derkovic told the Orlando Sentinel in an exclusive interview from jail Monday night. "It's time to 'fess up to what I did and do the right thing."

The Sheriff's Office has charged Amiri "Sin" Lundy, 20; Dominique "D" Tolbert, 19; and Derkovic with killing Angel in an act of crude gang justice. Lundy headed the 3rd World Rolling Sixties -- a spinoff of the West Coast Crips, according to court records and interviews Monday. Known as "O.G.," or the "Original Gangsta, " he also was an ex-boyfriend of the girl whom he, Derkovic and Tolbert are accused of killing.

All three lured Angel to a retention pond near Goldenrod Road intending to kill her, said sheriff's homicide Detective Brian Cross. "She was set up," Cross said Monday. "She knew these people and trusted them." Shortly after New Year's Day, Derkovic told the Sentinel, Lundy grew paranoid that Angel was trying to set up him and his family to be attacked by the rival gang she belonged to. He accused her of stealing Lundy's special book that held secrets and rules of the Rolling Sixties. That's when the idea of killing Angel came up, said Derkovic, who was the highest-ranking female in the gang and a friend of the victim. "He made her seem to be like a spy."

A few nights later -- Derkovic said she thinks it was Jan. 9 -- she and Tolbert were walking to her job at a bakery on Goldenrod Road. Lundy joined the two, telling them he had called Angel to meet them at a Hess gas station nearby. When Angel showed up, the four walked toward the bakery. One of the men, Derkovic said, handed her a knife he had wrapped in a bandanna. "He said, 'You know what that's for?' and I said, 'I know what you are talking about.' " They hung out in the neighborhood behind the bakery, ending up at the overgrown pond at the end of Alachua Street.

Angel borrowed Lundy's phone to call for a ride home. After she handed the phone back, "I grabbed her," Derkovic said.

Derkovic pulled out the knife, and the women struggled. Angel grabbed the weapon, and it broke. At one point, Angel grabbed Derkovic's bandanna with her bloody hand. Then the two men grabbed the victim's arms, she said. "That's when I got on top of her," Derkovic said. Derkovic said she grabbed Angel's throat and pushed. Then she eased the pressure and pushed again. "Before I knew it, she stopped struggling," Derkovic said.

After she let go, Derkovic said, one of the men stepped on the victim's neck. "I can only ask Angel to forgive me for what I did to her," Derkovic told the Sentinel.

Details of the case were still being investigated Monday, but the Sheriff's Office learned in the past week that Angel, who attended Winter Park High School's Ninth Grade Center, agonized over her life as a gangster girl. "I went through her diary, and she really wanted to change her life around. It really impressed me," Cross said. "This was a girl who truly loved her mother, and her mother truly loved her. . . . This is just a tragic and senseless loss." Her body was discovered partly in the water Jan. 18. It had been there for about two days, and decomposition covered up all signs of obvious trauma, according to the Sheriff's Office.

The Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner's Office ruled the cause of death as undetermined, but Cross never set aside the investigation, according to homicide Sgt. Allen Lee. Then someone made an anonymous phone call about a week ago to Crimeline. The tipster said two people involved in the death had been picked up within weeks of the killing in connection with an armed carjacking near Chickasaw Trail. Those two, awaiting sentencing in jail, were Derkovic and Tolbert.

Derkovic identified herself as a full member of the 3rd World Rolling Sixties gang within minutes of her Jan. 28 arrest for armed carjacking, county court records show. She was driving the carjacked victim's 2006 black Toyota when deputies spotted it on Valencia College Lane and she and Tolbert jumped out to try to run away, records show. Both wore beads in the gang's black-and-blue colors. Tolbert, originally from Pensacola, also wore a black-and-blue bandanna and carried an imitation 9 mm pistol Derkovic is charged with using to take the car at gunpoint, records show.

"Maya is a pretty established member of this group and has been for long time," Cross said of the lanky, 6-feet-2 teenager with a "Daddy P" tattoo on her neck, a souvenir of her time as a prostitute in Miami. Derkovic first joined a street gang several years ago when her family lived in South Florida. Born in Bosnia, she went by the nickname "Luda," which means "Crazy" in her native language, according to Cross, who interviewed her in the jail Monday afternoon.

Tolbert pleaded guilty to the carjacking and, in August, wrote the judge an elaborately illustrated letter asking for leniency. His drawing featured a gavel labeled, "Time Served" and a set of open handcuffs. If convicted of the new charge of first-degree murder, Tolbert, Derkovic and Lundy face life in prison and, possibly, the death penalty.

Lundy was picked up late Friday, jail records show. It was only the second time he had been arrested, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The prior arrest involved armed drug dealing at Olympia High School after a school resource officer charged Lundy, then 16, with possession of marijuana, a .22-caliber pistol and eight bullets on Sept. 12, 2005, records show. The arrest followed a tip from another student's mother who accused Lundy of firing two shots at her son days earlier during a fight in Orlo Vista, records show. Prosecutors later dropped both charges, records show.

Derkovic's mother, who did not want to be named to protect her younger children's identity, has visited the jail regularly since January. She knew something bothered her daughter besides the carjacking charge but the teen would not say why. "For the past four to five months, she always broke down and cried and said, 'There's something else I need to tell you, but I can't," her mother said Monday evening. "In one way she feels so much better now. She can sleep."

After years of trying to control her daughter's misbehavior, she said her daughter must accept responsibility for her actions, whatever they were and whatever punishment faces her. "Taking somebody's life is something I cannot imagine any child of mine doing. I can't imagine what that other girl's mother is feeling," she said. "For my child it is too late. If she did it, she's going to have to deal with herself. Someone else may learn from what happens to her."


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Article:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-10-16/news/deadfolo16_1_goldenrod-lundy-retention-pond
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Audio: Maya and life in Central Florida gangs
Wednesday, November 21, 2007
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November 21, 2007-- 90.7's Pat Duggins reports on what it's like to be a member of a Central Florida Street Gang by interviewing Maya Derkovic, a gang member and confessed killer sitting in the Orange County jail.
http://www.wmfe.org/audionews/MAYAfinal.asx
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News:Teen confesses to killing teen
October 11, 2007
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The face of Jackie "Angel" Curtis haunted Maya Derkovic for the past nine months. Finally, the 18-year-old gang member and Orange County Jail inmate couldn't keep her secret anymore. In an effort to find peace, she told a jailer and later detectives how she choked 15-year-old Angel while two fellow gang members held the victim's arms.

Read: Jailed teen tells Sentinel how she killed 15-year-old
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...07oct16,0,1714518.story?coll=orl_tab01_layout

AUDIO: &#8226;Hear Maya Derkovic describe the night she and two others took part in killing Jackie Curtis Audio
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-confession101507-mp3,0,127395.mp3file?coll=orl_tab01_layout

AUDIO: &#8226;Full length interview: Maya Derkovic with Sarah Lundy (Part 1 of 2) Audio
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-interview101507-mp3,0,4834451.mp3file?coll=orl_tab01_layout

AUDIO: &#8226;Full length interview: Maya Derkovic with Sarah Lundy (Part 2 of 2) Audio
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-interviewa101507-mp3,0,5627825.mp3file?coll=orl_tab01_layout

Article:
http://inweekly.net/article.asp?artID=5887


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Respectfully copied in its entirety so that we can make use of all this great info/research over at the note passing secret evidence thread. Our thanks to AngelWhoCares for assembling all of this info. She rocks.
 
I've beeb trying to find a "connection" with either of these two - something they and KC might have had in common.

COD was listed as "UNDETERMINED"!!!

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I was thinking about what they all might have had in common and I imagine they also may have discussed Atty fees and how kc was able to afford her dream team (also implicating jb?).
 
I'd like to know who was holding the letters and how they were handed over for safekeeping.

It was my understanding that visitors could take nothing in or out of the jail.

Think the person who passed the notes took them outside as well?
 
I'd like to know who was holding the letters and how they were handed over for safekeeping.

It was my understanding that visitors could take nothing in or out of the jail.

Think the person who passed the notes took them outside as well?

I thought one of the guards not yet named did the passing around internally?
 
I'd like to know who was holding the letters and how they were handed over for safekeeping.

It was my understanding that visitors could take nothing in or out of the jail.

Think the person who passed the notes took them outside as well?
I was thinking the inmate mailed them to a friend/relative for safe keeping around the time of her transfer, don't know this for fact though. I think the guard was in on the inside transfer of letters, but it would be another step for him/her to take/mail the letters to some anonymous person on the outside (knowing who they were from).

Usually when inmates are transferred from one facility to another, they can't take anything with them but their legal papers (court docs).
 
I bet these letters are stories about life on the outside - I bet it has a lot of things KC did while free - I bet the letters turn romantic - I bet KC plays hard to get mind games - I bet KC talks about Zanny - I bet she tries to play innocent. I bet she complains about her mother and father, the press - but I bet it is mostly a massaging of KC's ego and the inmates trying to get all cozy with an infamous killer. I bet KC loves it and is really upset it has stopped.
 
"Taking somebody's life is something I cannot imagine any child of mine doing. I can't imagine what that other girl's mother is feeling," she said. "For my child it is too late. If she did it, she's going to have to deal with herself. Someone else may learn from what happens to her."

Above is the statement in the artricle that Durkovic's mother made. Maybe we would have all felt differently about CA if she had made a similar statement about KC instead of trying to fix all the loose ends that KC left (cleaning the car, wrong hairbrush to LE, etc.) and NOT ONCE thinking about poor little Caylee.

Great comments.
To me that is the biggest betrayal of all, what CA has done to the memory of 'that child' that they supposedly loved so much. Anyone who harmed a hair on the head of my little grandchild had better never come within reach of me, no matter who it was.
 
I was thinking the inmate mailed them to a friend/relative for safe keeping around the time of her transfer, don't know this for fact though. I think the guard was in on the inside transfer of letters, but it would be another step for him/her to take/mail the letters to some anonymous person on the outside (knowing who they were from).

Usually when inmates are transferred from one facility to another, they can't take anything with them but their legal papers (court docs).

I think you are on the money with this. It is one matter for a guard to engage in a little note passing at work, but entirely another to physically smuggle them out to deliver to some unknown outside third party. I think that is very unlikely. Much more likely is the suggestion that they were transferred to some outside trusted party by the inmate herself.
 
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On Thursday, Anthony also ordered shampoo, conditioner, pens and deodorant.

This makes me wonder if LE took her pens to compare to the ink in the letters to help prove that she wrote them. Are they allowed to go to her cell and make her give them her paper and pens to compare to the letters?
 
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