The Pontiac - "Revisted" #1

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The Body in the Trunk

it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car...

DR. DOUG HANSON
Forensics Contributor


The call came into the Orlando, Florida 911 operator on July 15, 2008 from Cindy Anthony who had earlier reported her granddaughter missing, "I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car”. Over the next few weeks the mystery of what happened to little three year old Caylee Anthony would deepen as investigators tried to sort out the details of the convoluted story that the child's mother and the police's chief suspect, Casey Anthony, would
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[skygirl]

I have been pretty good about keeping up with this thread. So if this has been said before. I sawrey :slap:!

Has KC ever stated that the infamous 'ZFG' was ever in or around the Pontiac? Did she ever tell anyone, "Oh and she absolutely used my car to drive Caylee hither and yonder"

ut em up: Or maybe ZFG Pontijacked her?

Just wondering:headache: why I have yet to hear her put ZFG with the car. And I'm sure we all know why too. :liar:


ps. Have I told you lately how much I dig you WSers?

 

[JBean]

bumpity bump

 

[Searchfortruth]

I have been pretty good about keeping up with this thread. So if this has been said before. I sawrey :slap:!

Has KC ever stated that the infamous 'ZFG' was ever in or around the Pontiac? Did she ever tell anyone, "Oh and she absolutely used my car to drive Caylee hither and yonder"

ut em up: Or maybe ZFG Pontijacked her?

Just wondering:headache: why I have yet to hear her put ZFG with the car. And I'm sure we all know why too. :liar:


ps. Have I told you lately how much I dig you WSers?

That's a good question...I don't think we have heard anything yet about the invisible nanny being in Casey's car. I wouldn't be too surprised if the defense tries to insinuate that the nanny (that no one has ever seen) was an occasional user of the car. Casey told her friend Annie that Jesse had a key to her car, of course we know that he didn't, but this shows that nothing is out of bounds for this defendant and her team.

 

[countzero]

That's a good question...I don't think we have heard anything yet about the invisible nanny being in Casey's car. I wouldn't be too surprised if the defense tries to insinuate that the nanny (that no one has ever seen) was an occasional user of the car. Casey told her friend Annie that Jesse had a key to her car, of course we know that he didn't, but this shows that nothing is out of bounds for this defendant and her team.

Why would zanny-nanny need to be driving KC's car? What car would KC then drive? KC told stories about zanny-nanny having everything Caylee would need at zanny-nanny's place. Clothes, toys, car seat. I need to go back and read whether the question was asked and answered about food and diapers, i.e. did KC supply these or did zanny-nanny. Also I don't remember KC telling LE or anyone exactly how she paid zanny-nanny.

I can guess that it was money stolen from everyone since KC is zanny-nanny. Said extremely sarcastically.

 

[LambChop]

I have been pretty good about keeping up with this thread. So if this has been said before. I sawrey :slap:!

Has KC ever stated that the infamous 'ZFG' was ever in or around the Pontiac? Did she ever tell anyone, "Oh and she absolutely used my car to drive Caylee hither and yonder"

ut em up: Or maybe ZFG Pontijacked her?

Just wondering:headache: why I have yet to hear her put ZFG with the car. And I'm sure we all know why too. :liar:


ps. Have I told you lately how much I dig you WSers?

Not sure they can use that now with the information provided by her cellphone pings. KC stayed pretty much on the move. And of course if ZFG had been in the car there would be prints now wouldn't there.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I recall CA asking KC "Why didn't she pick up the car?" (CA said "she" not "you").

Who do you suppose "she" is? Was this step in the script? Whose script?

CA probably wanted to say "you" but was playing along with the Zanny theme. Her comment causes me to wonder if, at some point, CA was briefed as to the contents of the original script, thus asking KC why she had not followed through with it.

It causes one to ponder why KC thought she would get away with leaving a car that had contained her dead daughter in a parking lot for just anyone to discover. KC knew the smell was there. She told AH about the smell. Was somebody supposed to come get the car and dispose of it somehow prior to it being towed? That would explain why KC left the key in the car too. Why would KC be that stupid?

 

[marspiter]

My one question about the car, and I know this has been asked many times.

Why oh why didn't George who's granddaughter hasn't been seen in 31 days not call the police right then and there when he smelled the distinctive smell of decomp. I have smelled it and there is nothing else like it..an experienced detective, or hey for that matter anyone who has worked in law enforcement knows that smell (unless they have been very fortunate not to).

I just can't comprehend why a concerned father and grandfather (former police detective) would drive that car home unless he had some suspicion and/or thought it may be best to keep a lid on it until he decided what to do.

 

[MissJames]

I recall CA asking KC "Why didn't she pick up the car?" (CA said "she" not "you").

Who do you suppose "she" is? Was this step in the script? Whose script?

CA probably wanted to say "you" but was playing along with the Zanny theme. Her comment causes me to wonder if, at some point, CA was briefed as to the contents of the original script, thus asking KC why she had not followed through with it.

It causes one to ponder why KC thought she would get away with leaving a car that had contained her dead daughter in a parking lot for just anyone to discover. KC knew the smell was there. She told AH about the smell. Was somebody supposed to come get the car and dispose of it somehow prior to it being towed? That would explain why KC left the key in the car too. Why would KC be that stupid?

KC had to explain to Cindy why she left the car at Amscot. I suspect she told Cindy one of her friends was supposed to pick it up for her .Maybe she said she left it there for a friend to use because that was a convenient spot,but the friend must not have come for it. KC put the blame on other people for everything that happened. She couldn't very well say her car stunk from her dead child so she abandoned it.Even saying she ran out of gas wouldn't fly cuz she could have gone back to put some in at any time.

 

[essies]

ITA marspiter!! By the way-are you sure your siggy line isn't a Cindy Anthony quote?:crazy:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

My one question about the car, and I know this has been asked many times.

Why oh why didn't George who's granddaughter hasn't been seen in 31 days not call the police right then and there when he smelled the distinctive smell of decomp. I have smelled it and there is nothing else like it..an experienced detective, or hey for that matter anyone who has worked in law enforcement knows that smell (unless they have been very fortunate not to).

I just can't comprehend why a concerned father and grandfather (former police detective) would drive that car home unless he had some suspicion and/or thought it may be best to keep a lid on it until he decided what to do.

One reason could be because he has been involved in creating the original script. In my post above, I was hinting that someone else may have been involved in the coverup.

Do towyards leave notices on the front door or officially mail them? The front door story the A's tell sounds lame to me. Lots of notices must be floating around when FL has a hurricane!:doh:

 

[AZlawyer]

One reason could be because he has been involved in creating the original script. In my post above, I was hinting that someone else may have been involved in the coverup.

Do towyards leave notices on the front door or officially mail them? The front door story the A's tell sounds lame to me. Lots of notices must be floating around when FL has a hurricane!:doh:

The notice on the front door was not from the towyard. It was from the post office asking the As to pick up a registered letter (which was from the towyard).

 

[marspiter]

Yeah what AZlawyer said.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The notice on the front door was not from the towyard. It was from the post office asking the As to pick up a registered letter (which was from the towyard).

So wouldn't the post office leave the notice in the mailbox? Most people look at their mail everyday - at least flip through it for anything important. I know I've had notices left on the door that they tried to deliver a box or something but it seems sortof irresponsible cuz anybody could take it. I suppose they contact you again if you don't respond within a certain amount of time but still? Thanks for clarifying this detail for me.

By the time the trial rolls around, I won't be clear about anything.:banghead:

 

[marspiter]

lol Well the post office and other postal services sometimes don't place stuff where you would think it should go. Like my 2 thousand dollars of electronic equipment that UPS left in the middle of my driveway in the rain.....not on my front porch which is covered! Yeah they kinda got a call on that one and I still feel bad for the poor lady who had to answer the phone that day.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Ouch!

 

[AZlawyer]

So wouldn't the post office leave the notice in the mailbox? Most people look at their mail everyday - at least flip through it for anything important. I know I've had notices left on the door that they tried to deliver a box or something but it seems sortof irresponsible cuz anybody could take it. I suppose they contact you again if you don't respond within a certain amount of time but still? Thanks for clarifying this detail for me.

By the time the trial rolls around, I won't be clear about anything.:banghead:

They try to deliver it to the door, then leave a notice if you aren't there. Nothing is left in the box. (I'm not sure if they try again or leave another notice later if you don't pick up the letter.)

In this case the notice was left 7/11 (Friday), was seen by CA and GA 7/13 (Sunday) and the letter was picked up 7/15 (Tuesday).

 

[doogiesgirl]

So wouldn't the post office leave the notice in the mailbox? Most people look at their mail everyday - at least flip through it for anything important. I know I've had notices left on the door that they tried to deliver a box or something but it seems sortof irresponsible cuz anybody could take it. I suppose they contact you again if you don't respond within a certain amount of time but still? Thanks for clarifying this detail for me.

By the time the trial rolls around, I won't be clear about anything.:banghead:

This is a great example of why it is so interesting reading the wide variety of posts here at WS's. We live in a townhouse, our mailbox is at the end of the street in a metal box along with everyone else's on my street. Plus we get paid once a month. So I pay bills once a month and usually don't collect my mail but twice a month AND we use our garage door always not our front door like the A's, so the part about the post office notice sounds plausable to me. However....if my mailbox was closer and if my front door was ground level (both like the A's), I think I would have noticed the P.O. notice sooner than they did. But, I can give them the benefit of the doubt of this one. JMO

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

This is a great example of why it is so interesting reading the wide variety of posts here at WS's. We live in a townhouse, our mailbox is at the end of the street in a metal box along with everyone else's on my street. Plus we get paid once a month. So I pay bills once a month and usually don't collect my mail but twice a month AND we use our garage door always not our front door like the A's, so the part about the post office notice sounds plausable to me. However....if my mailbox was closer and if my front door was ground level (both like the A's), I think I would have noticed the P.O. notice sooner than they did. But, I can give them the benefit of the doubt of this one. JMO

Even giving them the benefit of the doubt on receving the notice, once they, GA/CA arrived at tow yard and GA smedlled the contents in the cars. Red Flags should have went up all over that place and LE should have been notified and that car been locked down as a possible crime scene. No, GA, took it upon himself to drive the atrocious smelling car home, that had also been confirmed by the tow yard guy smelled like another car that a man had commited suicide in. GA requested the tow yard guy to look in thr trunk with him. No, GA decided to go ahead and drive the car home, instead of notifying LE, eventhough, he had not seen or heard from Caylee in a month. Drive the stinking car home in the rain with the windows rolled down and then park it in the garage. Out of site. Out of view. Out of smelling range. Then goes to work like nothing has happened. Cindy goes to work. All the while her co-workers are telling her to get home and find out what the he77 is going on..reasonable people. They might have missed the notice but they sure didn't miss the smell!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Along with all the other oddities within this case, the fact that the peeps working at the towyard just closed their eyes (or noses) to the smell of the car causes questions/concerns as well.

Is this normal towyard protocol, that is, to ignore abandoned cars with the smell of decomp?

If only they had called LE to investigate the car prior to it leaving the lot. There are so many alternative endings to uncovering the truth about Caylee's death if only someone else would have done something different earlier. That is why I tend to believe others knew about Caylee's death prior to July 15. AD has suggested that KC was not smart enough to handle this alone.