The Rev. Richard G

[DollyPardonMe]

I don't want to say anything bad about RG, because I don't see what it has to do with finding Caylee but, we had a sort of penpal thing going on Myspace and I had to back away because I was getting some strange vibes. I do believe though he had every right to defend his son.

According to him he was once possessed and turned his life around and now casts out demons and stuff. He told me believes certain members of the A family are possessed.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and I am not saying I don't believe in demons because I have seen a lot in my lifetime. I guess I am just wary of someone that would spill their guts like that...I wouldn't unless I really knew a person.

Plus..it's really hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that "the devil made them do it", maybe that makes me a terrible person but I want to see justice for that little girl, and claiming that Satan forced someone to do it just seems a bit out there to me.

But I do admire the way he defends his son and belive he has every right to do that. If it was my child being persecuted, Satan would be the last thing you would have to worry about.

And I am not saying he wasn't possessed. Stranger things have happened and I have seen them happen. But the whole scenario just put me off..so it's really my problem and not his why I stopped the correspondence.

I think it was inappropriate to post private "penpal" correspondence between you and Rev Grund here on W/S. Although, he is an open man and would probably share his testimony with whomever he feels comfortable with, it was his decision. This man and his family are victims of KC and the A's and he is being put through the ringer here because of his beliefs, hair color and he made the hair on someone's back stand up because of an innocent hug. He has info on the case and he deserves to be heard but "Don't shoot the messenger"!

 

[EtherealGirl]

I think it was inappropriate to post private "penpal" correspondence between you and Rev Grund here on W/S. Although, he is an open man and would probably share his testimony with whomever he feels comfortable with, it was his decision. This man and his family are victims of KC and the A's and he is being put through the ringer here because of his beliefs, hair color and he made the hair on someone's back stand up because of an innocent hug. He has info on the case and he deserves to be heard but "Don't shoot the messenger"!

Everyone is entitled to their opionion, and I learned as a child that arguing is a waste of energy, but feel the need to at least make a stab at explaining something. I will only do it once though.

RG did not tell me "not to tell", in fact that is a tiny tip of the iceberg of things he told me.

It was a long time ago and I didn't run here to tell it. I actually thought it might prove relevant to this case or would never have expended the energy it took to post it.

I am not one of those people who thinks, by knowing someone who just happens to be in the limelight, they end up in the limelight as well. Because I do not need that in my life. In other words I could care less who he is, if he had told it to me in secret and asked me not to tell, I never would have betrayed a confidence. But he did not.

The 'Mods' have the power to delete my initial response concerning RG (sorry, I was under the impression this thread was about him (maybe it's just a critique of his appearance though).

I would delete my response but it would still show up as 'quoted' and I do not have the power to delete those. I would greatly appreaciate them being deleted.

 

[Oakley]

I recall you stating in an earlier post that you were once possessed.

I don't want to say anything bad about RG, because I don't see what it has to do with finding Caylee but, we had a sort of penpal thing going on Myspace and I had to back away because I was getting some strange vibes. I do believe though he had every right to defend his son.

According to him he was once possessed and turned his life around and now casts out demons and stuff. He told me believes certain members of the A family are possessed.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and I am not saying I don't believe in demons because I have seen a lot in my lifetime. I guess I am just wary of someone that would spill their guts like that...I wouldn't unless I really knew a person.

Plus..it's really hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that "the devil made them do it", maybe that makes me a terrible person but I want to see justice for that little girl, and claiming that Satan forced someone to do it just seems a bit out there to me.

But I do admire the way he defends his son and belive he has every right to do that. If it was my child being persecuted, Satan would be the last thing you would have to worry about.

And I am not saying he wasn't possessed. Stranger things have happened and I have seen them happen. But the whole scenario just put me off..so it's really my problem and not his why I stopped the correspondence.

 

[zadari]

reaLLY?! Isn't this ( http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2966429&postcount=41) your post? Have you changed your mind since posting that?

what does that post have to do with rg?

 

[Aleve N Fla]

Everyone is entitled to their opionion, and I learned as a child that arguing is a waste of energy, but feel the need to at least make a stab at explaining something. I will only do it once though.

RG did not tell me "not to tell", in fact that is a tiny tip of the iceberg of things he told me.

It was a long time ago and I didn't run here to tell it. I actually thought it might prove relevant to this case or would never have expended the energy it took to post it.

I am not one of those people who thinks, by knowing someone who just happens to be in the limelight, they end up in the limelight as well. Because I do not need that in my life. In other words I could care less who he is, if he had told it to me in secret and asked me not to tell, I never would have betrayed a confidence. But he did not.

The 'Mods' have the power to delete my initial response concerning RG (sorry, I was under the impression this thread was about him (maybe it's just a critique of his appearance though).

I would delete my response but it would still show up as 'quoted' and I do not have the power to delete those. I would greatly appreaciate them being deleted.

Dont you worry about it - you didnt say anything about RG that he hasn't said in public anyway. All of the information you said can be found on various blogs - so no need to be upset. And no - this is not a critique about his appearance, it is a thread about RG. If someone had their hair stand up that was their feelings at the time - no one here can say those feelings weren't real. I will not post my feelings about meeting RG as the mods would def ban me for those.....

Everyone has an opinion - and everyone is entitled to one.

 

[CourtsInSession]

I don't know if Cindy heard from RG's lawyer........but the first I remember hearing about RG was that his lawyer was contacting websites with threats of "major lawsuits".........which seemed very odd, in MOO.

If RG hadn't done so, rumors would have been spread like wildfire. All of the sudden, rumors become facts. I feel he was right in nipping it all in the bud. Rumors have ruined many innocent people's lives. Jesse is young and inbetween jobs. The last thing he needs is his future jeopardized by ugly lies that would end up being "facts" and following him forever.

 

[CourtsInSession]

(Snipped for space)

:clap::clap::clap:
Truer words have never been spoken. There are many many people who have embraced this case now, that were more than likely not crusaders for missing children prior to.

This whole case has become so heinous and unbelievable, I think it has opened the eyes of many. It is just inconceivable and absurd that a Mother would not report her child missing after 31 days and be out partying like we all have witnessed. It is unbelievable that someone would spin such an outlandish tale, and expect normal, reasonable, intelligent adults to believe it. I think that's why this case has made the average person, even those of us who have never met Caylee, WANT to become a crusader for missing children, to ensure that nothing ever, ever happens like this again.

Caylee deserved better, and she deserves to have as many crusaders as it takes, to see to it that no child gets harmed and disrepected like she has, and that no Mother is allowed to erase their child and forget them in the blink of an eye and go dancing.

There is nothing wrong with becoming a crusader for innocent, precious children. If somebody doesn't stand up and some good come out of this tragedy, Caylee will have died in vain. Out of every terrible thing that happens in life, something good seems to evolve.

 

[CourtsInSession]

FYI I am an adoptive parent and love my adopted child as if he were my blood. However, I raised him and lived with him for years. The Rev. G had no viable relationship with the A's. I still say he should mind his own business.

I believe the Anthony's dragged his son into this mess, therefore making it Rev. Grund's business.

 

[txsvicki]

reaLLY?! Isn't this ( http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2966429&postcount=41) your post? Have you changed your mind since posting that?

No, I haven't changed my mind or my Nickname on here. I'm Txsvicki, and the window you linked to shows up as Txlady2. Did you misread the name or why would you think that was me from about twelve days ago? I can see how a person can misread a name though. I could have sworn your's at one time was spelled onelostgirl instead of grl.

 

[maconrich]

(respectfully snipped)
but the first I remember hearing about RG was that his lawyer was contacting websites with threats of "major lawsuits".........which seemed very odd, in MOO.

Same here and I'll admit that because of that my first impression wasn't overly positive, but I put it off (partly) as stress over everything that was going on at the time.

I can see him sticking up for his son *to a point*, but it would be much more appropriate for JG to speak for and defend himself. He wouldn't have to go as far as Dante or Exit13 and come here to set things straight - I'm sure the media would jump on any/every opportunity to interview him.

But I also wonder if JG might not have been pulled in too far by KC to be objective or to realize that the person he was engaged to never existed (due to her changing her personality to meet the expectations of whoever she was with).

So the question for me would be do JG and/or RG understand that there's a very good chance that everything and anything KC said was a lie? Do they realize that even seeing something with their own eyes may not have made it true? (due to things going on that they didn't have clue one about)

It's clear that KC intentionally played JG so he wouldn't like or trust her family and would accept and support her version of the truth - something that was the most obvious when it came to Cindy - but considering the stories she told about Lee and George it apparently applied to them as well. All of this makes me to wonder if either have any real information to share (as long as they weren't involved in Caylee disappearing and I doubt they were).

So I guess I'm not expecting too much in the way of what RG will tell when the time is right. But, hey, maybe I'm wrong and he'll have something other than a KC said this or that; poor innocent KC was treated so badly by George or Cindy (or Lee), or anything else along those lines.

 

[OneLostGrl]

No, I haven't changed my mind or my Nickname on here. I'm Txsvicki, and the window you linked to shows up as Txlady2. Did you misread the name or why would you think that was me from about twelve days ago? I can see how a person can misread a name though. I could have sworn your's at one time was spelled onelostgirl instead of grl.

I am so sorry.. you are right, I did read the nickname wrong. :bang:

 

[Saffron]

Same here and I'll admit that because of that my first impression wasn't overly positive, but I put it off (partly) as stress over everything that was going on at the time.

I can see him sticking up for his son *to a point*, but it would be much more appropriate for JG to speak for and defend himself. He wouldn't have to go as far as Dante or Exit13 and come here to set things straight - I'm sure the media would jump on any/every opportunity to interview him.

But I also wonder if JG might not have been pulled in too far by KC to be objective or to realize that the person he was engaged to never existed (due to her changing her personality to meet the expectations of whoever she was with).

So the question for me would be do JG and/or RG understand that there's a very good chance that everything and anything KC said was a lie? Do they realize that even seeing something with their own eyes may not have made it true? (due to things going on that they didn't have clue one about)

It's clear that KC intentionally played JG so he wouldn't like or trust her family and would accept and support her version of the truth - something that was the most obvious when it came to Cindy - but considering the stories she told about Lee and George it apparently applied to them as well. All of this makes me to wonder if either have any real information to share (as long as they weren't involved in Caylee disappearing and I doubt they were).

So I guess I'm not expecting too much in the way of what RG will tell when the time is right. But, hey, maybe I'm wrong and he'll have something other than a KC said this or that; poor innocent KC was treated so badly by George or Cindy (or Lee), or anything else along those lines.

Yeah, hopefully RG realizes that everything Casey told him could be a lie. Hopefully he isn't holding a grudge against the Anthony's because of what KC said; otherwise, he should understand that they believed what KC told them about JG. (I still cringe when people assume CA made KC keep the baby, just because KC told someone that story. Obviously, everything KC said is suspect, and everyone she said something about deserves the benefit of the doubt for now.)

 

[OneLostGrl]

Yeah, hopefully RG realizes that everything Casey told him could be a lie. Hopefully he isn't holding a grudge against the Anthony's because of what KC said; otherwise, he should understand that they believed what KC told them about JG. (I still cringe when people assume CA made KC keep the baby, just because KC told someone that story. Obviously, everything KC said is suspect, and everyone she said something about deserves the benefit of the doubt for now.)

ITA- I don't think anything Casey has told people should be considered fact. I don't subscribe to the Cindy made Casey keep the baby logic either. IMO a more likely scenario is that Casey kept her pregnancy hidden and denied it as long as she did because she wanted to keep the baby and was afraid her mom would try to make her get rid of it.

 

[essies]

ITA- I don't think anything Casey has told people should be considered fact. I don't subscribe to the Cindy made Casey keep the baby logic either. IMO a more likely scenario is that Casey kept her pregnancy hidden and denied it as long as she did because she wanted to keep the baby and was afraid her mom would try to make her get rid of it.

I agree! She knew how controlling her mother was and that she ruled the roost(I guess she should she paid for it). I'm sure KC waited till CA had to accept the pregnancy. How CA stayed in denial so long is beyond me-with her nursing background and having been pregnant twice herself! Boy-that's some deep denial!!:snooty:But, I guess it taught KC just how gullible her mother really was!!

 

[Oakley]

Same here and I'll admit that because of that my first impression wasn't overly positive, but I put it off (partly) as stress over everything that was going on at the time.

I can see him sticking up for his son *to a point*, but it would be much more appropriate for JG to speak for and defend himself. He wouldn't have to go as far as Dante or Exit13 and come here to set things straight - I'm sure the media would jump on any/every opportunity to interview him.

But I also wonder if JG might not have been pulled in too far by KC to be objective or to realize that the person he was engaged to never existed (due to her changing her personality to meet the expectations of whoever she was with).

So the question for me would be do JG and/or RG understand that there's a very good chance that everything and anything KC said was a lie? Do they realize that even seeing something with their own eyes may not have made it true? (due to things going on that they didn't have clue one about)

It's clear that KC intentionally played JG so he wouldn't like or trust her family and would accept and support her version of the truth - something that was the most obvious when it came to Cindy - but considering the stories she told about Lee and George it apparently applied to them as well. All of this makes me to wonder if either have any real information to share (as long as they weren't involved in Caylee disappearing and I doubt they were).

So I guess I'm not expecting too much in the way of what RG will tell when the time is right. But, hey, maybe I'm wrong and he'll have something other than a KC said this or that; poor innocent KC was treated so badly by George or Cindy (or Lee), or anything else along those lines.

You know, Maconrich, you bring up some excellent thoughts. I wouldn't be surprised if RG sees through KC's lies but is too much of a gentleman to sling mud. JG seems to be (what I have seen of him) a decent, honest and sensitive young man. Didn't he resign from LE, and I got the impression it was due to stress. Just the sort of person KC would target as prey. I wouldn't be surprised if RG is speaking out for him because he is so vulnerable now. I can't imagine how he is dealing with making sense of the deception from KC (whom he was in love with,) the animosity from C & G, and the allegations against him by the A's that he harmed Caylee. If he were my son, I'd be speaking out for him too!

 

[Angel Who Cares]

A very heartfelt blog posted by Rev. Richard & JG:

The Trip to NYC; a repost of blog from Jesse; comments from me
The following is a blog posted by my son Jesse. For those who do not have access to his page, I wanted to share it with you. I will have a follow up comment afterward. RJ
Posted Wednesday December 24, 2008

<snipped>
Just wanted to take the time to thank everyone for every message of thanks, best wishes, condolences, and prayers. This has been a rough time for my family and I but all the support out there does help, believe it or not.

Blog link:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=458764355

 

[txsvicki]

Well, once again I will be the critic and be one person out there who doesn't need their voice for Caylee. The Rev. G still did not miss an opportunity to slur the Anthony's even though it was subtle. RG and Jesse believe they are the only voice for Caylee out there, but I never really see a lot said about Caylee alone unconditionally, it's always conditionally mixed in with criticism about the Anthony's. I wonder what RG means about the time is coming for him to draw his sword and fight? That seems like he is vowing revenge against Cindy and George and going to do or tell something, but according to the documents, everything they pretty much know is hearsay from Casey herself and no actual proof of anything. Most of the hearsay that started the family feud came from Leonard according to the documents. It's very hypocritical for the Rev. to be defending his son, but Cindy is the devil herself for trying to defend her daughter. I don't care for religious mumbo jumbo that's intermingled with hate. It doesn't help Caylee on whit either.

 

[norr]

Well, once again I will be the critic and be one person out there who doesn't need their voice for Caylee. The Rev. G still did not miss an opportunity to slur the Anthony's even though it was subtle. RG and Jesse believe they are the only voice for Caylee out there, but I never really see a lot said about Caylee alone unconditionally, it's always conditionally mixed in with criticism about the Anthony's. I wonder what RG means about the time is coming for him to draw his sword and fight? That seems like he is vowing revenge against Cindy and George and going to do or tell something, but according to the documents, everything they pretty much know is hearsay from Casey herself and no actual proof of anything. Most of the hearsay that started the family feud came from Leonard according to the documents. It's very hypocritical for the Rev. to be defending his son, but Cindy is the devil herself for trying to defend her daughter. I don't care for religious mumbo jumbo that's intermingled with hate. It doesn't help Caylee on whit either.

:applause: :applause:
Amen
Think you found a nest of hypocrites.

 

[justbetweenus]

Well, once again I will be the critic and be one person out there who doesn't need their voice for Caylee. The Rev. G still did not miss an opportunity to slur the Anthony's even though it was subtle. RG and Jesse believe they are the only voice for Caylee out there, but I never really see a lot said about Caylee alone unconditionally, it's always conditionally mixed in with criticism about the Anthony's. I wonder what RG means about the time is coming for him to draw his sword and fight? That seems like he is vowing revenge against Cindy and George and going to do or tell something, but according to the documents, everything they pretty much know is hearsay from Casey herself and no actual proof of anything. Most of the hearsay that started the family feud came from Leonard according to the documents. It's very hypocritical for the Rev. to be defending his son, but Cindy is the devil herself for trying to defend her daughter. I don't care for religious mumbo jumbo that's intermingled with hate. It doesn't help Caylee on whit either.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[tx_Dot]

Well, once again I will be the critic and be one person out there who doesn't need their voice for Caylee. The Rev. G still did not miss an opportunity to slur the Anthony's even though it was subtle. RG and Jesse believe they are the only voice for Caylee out there, but I never really see a lot said about Caylee alone unconditionally, it's always conditionally mixed in with criticism about the Anthony's. I wonder what RG means about the time is coming for him to draw his sword and fight? That seems like he is vowing revenge against Cindy and George and going to do or tell something, but according to the documents, everything they pretty much know is hearsay from Casey herself and no actual proof of anything. Most of the hearsay that started the family feud came from Leonard according to the documents. It's very hypocritical for the Rev. to be defending his son, but Cindy is the devil herself for trying to defend her daughter. I don't care for religious mumbo jumbo that's intermingled with hate. It doesn't help Caylee on whit either.

good post......& you are not alone.