The Rumor Mill -- unsubstantiated, yet possible relevant information

[deedee21]

Who killed Sara Stobel? Sara was a drug addict who turned to escorting. She was found dead on the North Shore of LI. LE waited a year to admit she was a victim of homicide. They wont release the autopsy report or the cause of death. Could she be another victim of the LISK? Or maybe Bittrolf?

 

[Theforeigner]

Who killed Sara Stobel? Sara was a drug addict who turned to escorting. She was found dead on the North Shore of LI. LE waited a year to admit she was a victim of homicide. They wont release the autopsy report or the cause of death. Could she be another victim of the LISK? Or maybe Bittrolf?

Her name was Sarah Strobel (with a "h" in Sarah and an "r" in Strobel)

Here is the WS thread about her death:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...bel-Murder-23-Huntington-3-October-2013/page2

Sarah Strobel, 23
Her body was found October 3, 2013
on the North Shore of Long Island — in a nature preserve in Huntington Station
near a path in the Froelich Farms Nature Preserve.

There is a ca 20 minute long video (oploaded 02-05-2016,) named :
"Sarah Strobel's homicide, now being Federally reviewed." (I haven't watched it yet)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ington-3-October-2013&p=12335597#post12335597


https://www.facebook.com/restinpeacesarahstrobel/
Justice for Sarah Strobel
Community


Name: Sarah Strobel
BORN: 19 Feb 1990
Died: 3 Oct 2013
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1989-1992)

 

[LindsayLohan6]

One thing I'd like to point out about Sarah Strobel, the preserve in Huntington where she was found is near to the wolf Hill Road man from 2000, and Hands of Gold Jewelry, which is a store that the Brentwood teen had a keychain of. It's also on the north shore (while most of the dumps seem to be south shore orientated) where the oyster bay private beach of James Dolan which the Cherries limbed washed up on in 2007, and it's VERY CLOSE to Llyod Neck where another part of Cherries was found by Fisherman on the rocks. Lattingtown is also on the north shore to the west of Huntington. I have friends who knew Sarah Strobel and I was told that they heard she had post mortem mutilations, I think they said some of her toes were cut and her breast was cut. Has anyone else heard this rumor?

 

[deedee21]

Lindsay, does anyone know how long Sarah was missing before she was found? Did she live alone? Did she advertise on craigslist or any other sites? What has happened to her is shameful.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

go to ID discovery's Facebook there is a post "4 Theories On The Identity Of The Long Island Serial Killer" and on the comments a woman says: "I just read a article that said there was unverified african america sex worker that was running seminaked down oak beach somewhere before 2010 first all im not a sex escort he was my boyfriend he tried to kill me over by the truck spot in east babylon"

Was this the woman flukeyou was yelling about?

 

[hawkshaw]

No one posts anymore, or is there something wrong with the Board. Just checking.

 

[hawkshaw]

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...ty-got-thousands-for-use-of-vessel-1.11729655

YOU FOLKS should read this story and it will give you an idea what is going on in Suffolk County. The people mentioned in this article all know each other. One of them likes to cruise for guys just like him while he pretends to be a happily married man. It is so sick out there that you have to come away thinking ANYTHING is possible - and probably is.

 

[deedee21]

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...ty-got-thousands-for-use-of-vessel-1.11729655

YOU FOLKS should read this story and it will give you an idea what is going on in Suffolk County. The people mentioned in this article all know each other. One of them likes to cruise for guys just like him while he pretends to be a happily married man. It is so sick out there that you have to come away thinking ANYTHING is possible - and probably is.

Of course you show up with a camera. To bad you cant post those Kodak moments. I cant stop laughing.

 

[giagreen]

One thing about Shannan, if her body and all her stuff was there wouldn't they have found her? Considering she was found in the area she was last seen "running into" how could SCPD not have searched that spot when they were searching Hackett's house, the Docks with divers and all that ****. Makes no sense to believe she wasn't placed there after wards. Don't forget they found her body like the day after the 48 hours first aired or something

I agree with you on this. But wanted to also add that I find the timing that the officer went out there with Blue to be odd. I've always felt and have believed that they were tipped off. I've always felt that this killer likes to play phone games or just games in general. I wouldn't be shocked to find out someday that he had pointed the police to that area some how.

 

[marble]

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...ty-got-thousands-for-use-of-vessel-1.11729655

YOU FOLKS should read this story and it will give you an idea what is going on in Suffolk County. The people mentioned in this article all know each other. One of them likes to cruise for guys just like him while he pretends to be a happily married man. It is so sick out there that you have to come away thinking ANYTHING is possible - and probably is.

Hawkshaw or anyone with a newsday subscription: can you provide a synopsis? tia!

 

[hawkshaw]

Well there is this certain very politically connected ADA in Spota's office. He has a 47' boat in Hampton Bays. Each year around August he throws a party on that boat for all the 'good ole boys.' The food and refreshments are provided by two well known attorneys in Suffolk County.

The boat is also available for rental if you want to go out on a fishing trip. At least one lawyer admits to hiring the boat for such a trip but he added because he often gets sea sick they don't even leave the dock. The owner, a ADA Scott Prudenti is supposed to be very appreciative of those lawyers when you rent out his boat.

Mr.Prudenti is said to be in all sorts of hi-jinks when he isn't running trips or prosecuting nefarious scoundrels for Tom Spota.

Now the attorney that gave that statement about me taking pictures is the same attorney that was Joe Careccia's lawyer and put together a deal with Scotty to indict my son in law. That attorney is one of those that pay for the parties on Prudenti's boat.

The gist of the story is if you make nice nice with Prudenti by renting his boat then good things can happen for you when you take your client to court.

 

[hawkshaw]

The good news about Mr.Prudenti renting out his boat is when he is doing that he isn't on the roadways picking up guys and creating havoc.

 

[Mimimak]

Hawkshaw or anyone with a newsday subscription: can you provide a synopsis? tia!

Longtime Suffolk County prosecutor John Scott Prudenti regularly collected thousands of dollars from local defense attorneys for the use of his boat, potentially violating county ethics and professional conduct standards.
Prominent defense attorneys Raymond Perini and William Collado said that their respective firms jointly made checks out to a corporation run by Prudenti, a bureau chief and 30-year veteran of the Suffolk district attorney’s office, in order to rent his 47-foot boat, the Christina Marie, for an annual summer party.
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The get-togethers — which Perini called a “knock-around good old time party” — featured lobster, barbecue, “beer, wine and if somebody wanted a shot I always had a bottle of scotch.” Perini said he couldn’t be sure when he started booking the Christina Marie for the summer parties but that the arrangement lasted for five or six years. Some of the most powerful people in Suffolk’s criminal justice system — including prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges and Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota — attended the parties, Perini said.
Defense lawyers also paid Prudenti to charter the Christina Marie for fishing trips, though the boat did not always leave the harbor or even the dock, according to Collado and two other defense attorneys who said they had been on the charters.
The two other defense attorneys, who asked not to be identified, said they went on Prudenti’s boat on separate trips and that it was a well-known way to curry favor with Prudenti, who was involved in many of their cases.
Perini and Collado, however, each said the payments for the summer party were never aimed at getting better deals in criminal cases and that they never reaped any advantage from Prudenti.
“I don’t think this affected his ability to make decisions at all,” said Perini, a former Suffolk prosecutor who failed in a 2013 bid to unseat Spota as district attorney.
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Perini initially estimated the annual payments for the parties were about $4,000 or $5,000. Perini, in a later conversation, said that upon reviewing checks, he had paid Prudenti $1,500 to $1,800 for some of the parties, a cost that included food and drink.
Perini said he couldn’t remember whether those checks covered the entire cost of those parties, or whether Collado had paid an additional amount. Perini declined to provide Newsday copies of the checks he gave to Prudenti.
Suffolk County’s ethics code states that public servants cannot “engage in any business, transaction or private employment, or have any financial or private interest which is in conflict with the proper discharge of his or her official duties.”
The American Bar Association mandates that prosecutors must avoid allowing their professional judgment or obligations to be affected by private financial interests.
In 2015, the ABA toughened standards to require that prosecutors inform their supervisors of any matter that “could reasonably be viewed as raising a potential conflict of interest.” Supervisors are then to decide whether disclosure in the courtroom is warranted, and the ABA standards call for a bias in favor of disclosure.
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Perini said “Spota always came” to the parties, as did many criminal judges whose identities he said he couldn’t remember. “If judges were there, if his boss was there, who is he going to disclose to?” Perini said of Prudenti. “It’s not a secret party.”
It’s unclear when Prudenti, who did not respond to messages left with the district attorney’s office or on his home answering machine, last rented out the boat. Prudenti is listed as the boat’s owner in a commercial database, and on Thursday his home voice mail gave callers the option to leave a message about fishing on the Christina Marie.
Paul Sabatino, a former counsel to the Suffolk Legislature and chief deputy county executive who helped craft Suffolk’s ethics code, said if Prudenti took money from defense attorneys for use of the Christina Marie, it was improper.
“In all honesty, you don’t need an ethics code to tell you that if you are an attorney on one side of a case, you can’t be taking a financial benefit from your opposing party or the opposing party’s attorney,” Sabatino said. “That’s just a basic standard rule.”
Bennett Gershman, a Pace Law School professor and former Manhattan prosecutor, called Prudenti’s boat rentals to defense attorneys “potentially a very serious conflict of interest. You can argue it’s a bribe.”
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Spota spokesman Robert Clifford, in an email responding to a reporter’s questions, wrote that before 2010 Prudenti chartered his boat, sometimes to attorneys, and served as captain. Those on board covered boat operating costs, including for bait and fuel, Clifford wrote.
Prudenti hosted a summer gathering on the boat, which remained docked during the party, and members of the defense bar shared the costs of food and beverages, Clifford wrote.
“This event was no different than the many other social events that take place every year including agency, office and law firm holiday parties, golf outings, dinners and summer picnics where members of the law enforcement community, the bench and bar collegially gather,” Clifford wrote.
Scrutiny on DA’s office
The revelations about Prudenti’s financial transactions with defense attorneys come at a time of increased scrutiny of how the Suffolk district attorney’s office has operated.
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Newsday reported in January that Spota’s top corruption prosecutor, Christopher McPartland, is under federal investigation for possible obstruction of justice involving the case of James Burke, the former Suffolk police chief and district attorney’s chief investigator who pleaded guilty in February to beating up a suspect and then arranging a cover-up.
In February, Newsday chronicled how Spota’s office handled the prosecution of Robert Macedonio, a defense attorney whose felony conviction for cocaine possession was later vacated in an unusual case shrouded by sealed records. After the story, federal authorities subpoenaed records and witnesses concerning Spota’s prosecution of Macedonio.
A Suffolk prosecutor since 1986 and former unsuccessful congressional candidate, Prudenti has deep ties to Suffolk politics and the courts. His uncle was deceased Suffolk GOP leader Anthony Prudenti and his cousin is former state chief administrative judge A. Gail Prudenti.
John Scott Prudenti began his career as a prosecutor under then-District Attorney Patrick Henry. He rose from trying District Court cases to high-profile assignments including a stint as deputy chief of the Major Crime Bureau.
Prudenti — who pleaded guilty to impaired driving after a 1980 arrest, according to a civil deposition he gave in 2007 — currently leads Spota’s Vehicular Crimes Bureau.
Perini said there was nothing untoward about his payments to Prudenti for the boat parties. He said that when negotiating plea deals in major cases, he dealt with Spota or his bureau chiefs, not Prudenti, who was a deputy bureau chief at the time.
The parties ended, Perini said, after retired New York Police Department Det. Pete Fiorello, who frequently criticizes Spota on Internet message boards, showed up in the marina parking lot to take photos of people on Prudenti’s boat.
“When people are uncomfortable or worried about it appearing on the blogs, we might as well not do it,” Perini said.
While defense attorney Collado acknowledged that he paid Prudenti for the parties and to charter the Christina Marie for fishing trips, he said he had never done so to influence the prosecutor.
“Ours was exclusively fun,” Collado said. “I don’t partake in any quid pro quo.”
Known for ‘making nice’
In interviews with about a dozen defense attorneys and former prosecutors, Prudenti’s fiberglass boat, built by AMF Hatteras Yachts in 1979 and docked at a Hampton Bays marina, was described as well-known in the legal community.
One defense attorney, who asked not to be named so as to not jeopardize his legal practice, said he joined others on a charter fishing trip on Prudenti’s vessel. The trip was paid for by one of the other defense attorneys, he said. He recalled the lawyers joking about whether they had to leave the dock because the real purpose of the outing was not fishing but “making nice” with Prudenti.
“The thinking was that he would be more amenable if we chartered the boat,” the attorney said of Prudenti.
Another defense attorney, who also did not want to be named because he believed it could jeopardize his current cases, said Prudenti suggested he charter his boat during a period when the prosecutor oversaw many of his clients’ criminal cases. The attorney said that his intent in chartering the boat was getting favorable consideration from Prudenti and that the boat never left the harbor.
Perini said the Christina Marie remained docked for the parties he paid for because of a drunken boating accident years earlier on another vessel in which an attorney died.
Collado said that besides his firm splitting the cost of the parties with Perini’s firm, he also chartered fishing trips on Prudenti’s boat. Those trips often never left the dock, Collado said.
“I’m not a fisherman, and I got sick a couple of times,” Collado said, which is why his charter trips on the prosecutor’s boat stopped leaving the dock.
Prudenti’s boat rentals to defense attorneys appear to have been an open secret in Suffolk courthouses, according to the defense attorneys interviewed. When asked which of his colleagues had been on the boat, Perini said: “Call any lawyer over 40.”
Defense attorney and former prosecutor Keith O’Halloran said he’d never chartered the boat himself but had been aboard and didn’t “have that great of a memory of what was going on.”
Daniel Russo said he had been on the Christina Marie as both a defense attorney and during his previous career as a Suffolk prosecutor. He said he never personally paid Prudenti, and any suggestion by other attorneys that the prosecutor could be influenced surprises him.
“If they are getting good deals, I want to know how,” Russo said. “Because I don’t get them.”
Other attorneys were more reluctant to discuss whether they had knowledge of Prudenti’s charter business.
Defense attorney William Keahon, a former Suffolk prosecutor, responded when asked whether he had been on the boat: “When you tell me who told you that, I’ll give you an answer.”
Former Suffolk prosecutor John Halverson said asking him about the boat was “reckless.”
Defense attorney Andrew Fiore told a reporter, “I just got to call somebody else and see if I can talk to you about this.” He never called back.
Former Suffolk prosecutor Craig McElwee, who said he had been on Prudenti’s boat when a political fundraiser for a defense attorney spilled from a neighboring bar onto the Christina Marie, acknowledged the troublesome ethics inherent in defense attorneys chartering a boat from a prosecutor overseeing their cases.
“The way I look at it is, why wouldn’t you want to rent a boat from somebody you know who has it?” McElwee said. “But obviously, if you’re looking at it from a different angle, you might think: ‘Hey, what the hell’s going on with that?’ ”

 

[marble]

Thanks mm

hawkshaw - I never doubted you myself, but wow has everything you alluded to finally been making it the papers of record. I'm glad you (and we) are finally seeing this all dragged out into the daylight and verified.

edited to add this excerpt when the modders clip the article so nobody misses it:

"The parties ended, Perini said, after retired New York Police Department Det. Pete Fiorello, who frequently criticizes Spota on Internet message boards, showed up in the marina parking lot to take photos of people on Prudenti’s boat.
“When people are uncomfortable or worried about it appearing on the blogs, we might as well not do it,” Perini said."

 

[hawkshaw]

The latest rumor circulating around is when Winter comes around you have to blues because you can't have a party on Scotty's boat you can always rent his home in Vermont which is right near a ski mountain.

 

[hawkshaw]

Prudenti and his pal Perini teamed up in the persecution of my former son in law. Prudenti set it all up and Perini stepped in to 'defend' the lying informant. Spota sent Prudenti down to Florida with 3 detectives to bring back a suspect in multiple burglaries and being suspected of killing two witnesses. The suspect was a high school drop-out running several companies, including mortgage, real estate, Title companies, and various credit companies.

IMHO, it has always been my contention that Spota sent Prudenti to Florida so the detectives wouldn't get a first shot at the suspect who would tell them who was really corrupt in the SCPD......An officer of the court can't allow cops to talk to a suspect if he demands a lawyer.

Sure, this is the same DA that has a special location at 355 ( won't mention the street or town) where they bring suspects where lawyers CAN'T find their clients.

 

[hawkshaw]

One of our fellow readers sent me a PM suggesting I was playing a mystery game by not including the street and town name of the 355 I cited above. What purpose would that serve? Most of you folks are from Podnuk Iowa, or some such place. What does the name of the street and town mean to anyone. Believe it or not I do try to be responsible with my posts. Why put the full address on a public board if I don't know all the people or businesses in that location? Suffice to know that I know it, and if I am right the DA knows it and knows that if I know it then a lot of other folks know it.

 

[deedee21]

Notorius, concerning your POI. Does anything about Thursdays and Sundays stand out? Pay day or days off of work? Most of the girls went missing on these days. Most of the calls were made to Amanda on these days too.

 

[Patience]

Ii was checking to see who else uses burlap besides the usual suspects. What I found instead was Geotextiles. Woven and unwoven. Has punch hole design. Its used for drainage. Is this what was referred to as burlap? Google for more info.

Marijuana growers sometimes use burlap bags. Some might use it for transportation purposes as well as mold can destroy it.
http://www.amsterdammarijuanaseedbank.com/growing-marijuana-for-beginners.html
aking burlap bags which are damp from water, slipping them up and over your marijuana plant. Try to keep each bag damp while leaving them exposed to sunlight for a minimum of one week. Then place the plants inside of paper bags for three to four days until it is dried out enough to roll. Similar to fine wines and cigars, marijuana mellows with age

 

[Patience]

Mold wreaks havoc on material stored in evidence rooms

https://electrocorpairpurification....s-havoc-on-material-stored-in-evidence-rooms/

• Consider each case individually for marijuana storage. Burlap or paper bags let the moisture escape, but they also won’t hold off mold spores. Impermeable bags made out of plastics can cause the contents to turn into a mushy soup of questionable evidential value. The best choice is dependent on the amount of time it is stored, the quality of the material and the existing situation in the evidence room.