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There is a BIG SOMETHING that happened just before H called MG.
You'll see when the trial happens and then you'll see WHY he called.

What makes you so hopeful?

I can't get by that the call gives a convenient alibi for guilty parties if she's found dead with drugs/dna or alive and talking. I agree 'a something' might have very well triggered it for him to make the call when he did I think 2 days later.
 
The obvious difference I can see between SG and LISK is SG temporarily got away while the other four did not.

Definitely a potential botched attempt.

Just a theory but what if she was given drugs and it was the wrong kind. She realizes and knows she doesn't have a lot of time before she's passed out with the wrong people. She freaks out.
 
Sinix, sorry I haven't figured out how to repost the comments you are replying to, but I saw your comment and it definitely jumped out. I've looked quite a bit into the CCC, MM7 and DPH tried to sellers their version of the story early on and saw it was pretty far fetched. Still there are connections in the CCC saga. To state them all here would take way too long and I have no spelling correct here. But you seem to have heard your info from the DPH/MM7 stories. They claimed one of the CCC was DPH' ex, I found that to be untrue, they also claimed Magic was Hackett and fit this whole conspiracy of a groups exile copy cating other members killings. Again all this is crap. There maybe connections to CCC but the stories you heard are not credible, want proof? Magic died long ago, there are comments on Utopia Guide discussing Magic's death. Last I checked Hackett is alive. So no Magic is not Hackett and DPH and MM7 are definitely not credible.
 
Also, as long as I'm still here, I have had an issue with one thing for a while and wonder how people on Websleuths think about it. One big question in all this is if Shannan died accidentally or was murdered. I find it hard to believe she wasn't murdered or at least someone in Oak Beach knows more about what happened to her. But here's my issue, if Shannan was killed by the LISK (meaning whoever was responsible for the GB4) why wasn't she placed in the same area between Melissa and Megan? I have theories but that's all they are and like all the other theories out there they lead in circles. Just curious what everyone here thinks about this.
 
Well zero, remember how Shannan was found the day after the 48 hours aired? Way too coincidental and Shannan was not there all along. The killer might have thought it was too risky to dump along OP so he dumped in that marsh (which they had searched previously)
 
In my opinion I also don't think Shannan was there the whole time. So were all the other bodies dumped at once or each separate after each were killed? And again if Shannan was killed before Megan and Amber, why was she not dumped in the same place? This could mean Shannan was not murdered. It could mean she was killed by someone else. But if she was killed by same killer than this is important to know. So let's say to are right and the killer couldn't get to the dumpster after the others were found, why did the killer not dump Shannan there already?
 
well the marsh was searched after the bodies on OP were found. One thing to consider is that some remains had been on OP so long they had bushes growing thru the skull. So it seems the killer had been using OP to dump bodies for a decade rather than keep them somewhere and dump them all at once.
(also would still love to hear about Bittrolff's connection to OB, since this is the rumor thread, its ok to post any rumors)
 
I get all that, and don't want to get to confusing with all the other bodies and parts found near and around. My question is more simple. The GB4 were from the same killer and at least 2 of the GB4 had to be dumped there after Shannan went missing.unless they were all dumped there at the same time then all of the GB4 would have had to been dumped there after Shannan went missing. So why was her body dumped much later and not with the others. Again, it's only a question if Shannan was killed by the same person or people as the the GB4, but if she was, it seems like an important question. As for the Bittrolff rumor, again it's not my story to tell and I'm waiting to see if it comes out properly and not by my big mouth. I have a feeling more than ever there might be something there and just want to let it go through proper channels. I know what that sounds like and I do wish I had waited to bring it up. I didn't though, so I do know I may have to elaborate on this all soon. I just don't want to be part of leaking info if it might interfere with the case being solved.
 
What do you think of Rita Tangredi's daughter being friends with Melissa? That seems like an INSANE coincidence. And the proximity of Raffo and Bittrolff's childhood homes in Mastic. It seems like there HAS to be connection between Bittrolff and the serial killings, Gilgo/Manorville and AC.
 
What do you think of Rita Tangredi's daughter being friends with Melissa? That seems like an INSANE coincidence. And the proximity of Raffo and Bittrolff's childhood homes in Mastic. It seems like there HAS to be connection between Bittrolff and the serial killings, Gilgo/Manorville and AC.
Reporters interviewed Bittrolffs neighbors. But who are his friends? Does he have any?
 
I agree and have said so on my blog. I read about the Rita and Melissa connection here. I was trying to search that and see where it came from and if it is true when someone came to me and told me that Bitrolff knew people in Oak Beach and worked on a house there. So of course I thought this all seems to be fitting together. At the same time you have the stories of Burke along with his arrest. I was hoping truth was about to come out. So far though we are all still waiting. I really hope Bittrolff is the piece that puts it all together, but there are lots of other pieces and we have all heard before that LE has their killer. Still Bittrolff just seems connected to all of it so I'm still waiting to see. I tell you though, reading this thread had me chasing these Feingold brothers. So many questionable people. And they all seem connected to each other in some way. Maybe that's how long island is. Or maybe it's just the internet way.
 
I can only guess of what may have happened as there is no way to know what the LE has so far in their 'investigation.'

1. The GB4 were killed not far from the dump site. The spacing of the bodies tell me they were each dumped at different times. Had they all been dumped, or two or three were dumped, and then the others I would expect they would all be dumped at the same location. Why risk parking and dump one body, drive off to dump another, and another? It doesn't make any sense. Those gals were all murdered within a mile or so of Oak Beach. The answers lie at Oak Beach.

2. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house in similar circumstances as the GB4. They were Online escorts from various places and murdered.

3. It seems as though the GB4 were killed in a controlled situation. Killed at the location they were at and disposed of when the killer thought he was safe.

4. If we believe the above to be true then we have to believe the killer(s) felt safe with dumping three additional bodies at the same location. We can believe they were able to monitor the dumping sites and know if there was any police activity. We can assume they knew they were free to go so long as the cops weren't involved.

5. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house and she spent 3 hours there. Three hours to spend with one client, perhaps, 2 or more is a long time for a working gal to spend.

6. I believe SG had heard rumors of some gals that went missing and she was desperate to make good money that was promised her. After spending near 3 hours something startled her and we now know she left Brewer's house and called 911, screaming: "They are trying to kill me." We don't know what else she may have said because the 23 minute tape has never been released.

7. If SG was murdered we have to assume she wasn't killed in a 'controlled' circumstance, and that is why her body is in a different location than the GB4. She was certainly dead at another location that was equally as hard to find as the GB4.

8. We also know her body wasn't found until BLUE and his handler stumbled over one of the GB4, and 3 others.

9. We know that SG was seen running in the opposite direction of where the GB4 were found and we also can believe no one ever bothered to look in that direction until the GB4 were found. One has to wonder if the cops didn't look in that direction when I believe they had every reason to believe that was the direction she was last seen then one has to wonder why?

10. We have to believe Dormer suggesting she may have died accidentally when the ME's report has yet to determine a cause of death. We have to ask WHY would he do that if not to misdirect the public?

11. The removal of Brewer as the prime suspect in all 5 cases at that point in the 'investigation' is a remarkable feat even for Sherlock Holmes.

12. What this tells me is several things: A. Dormer and Spota have a pretty good idea who the killer is and has a good idea how the other gals were killed.

13. We know that Harry Feingold was a well know drug dealer in Babylon that went to jail for 10 years.

14. We know that Feingold then went into the sex trade business after he got out of jail. We know that because he openly advertised his wares on the Internet. We also know he was in the sex-trade business.

15. We know that in 2004, Feingold sold a house to a Bellone/Schaffer confidante named Robert Stricoff. We know he sold the house for the same of 825k when the usual real estate web sites placed the value near 425K. We know that to this day t
he same house is valued near 600K.

16. We know that Stricoff somehow managed to secure a mortgage for 700K for a house that was reported to be worth no more than 425K. We know this happened at the height of the mortgage fraud debacle.

17. What we don't know is how much Stricoff actually paid this convicted drug dealer, turned sex trade operative other than what the official records allegedly tell us.


More later. I don't think this is hard to follow..........
 
I can only guess of what may have happened as there is no way to know what the LE has so far in their 'investigation.'

1. The GB4 were killed not far from the dump site. The spacing of the bodies tell me they were each dumped at different times. Had they all been dumped, or two or three were dumped, and then the others I would expect they would all be dumped at the same location. Why risk parking and dump one body, drive off to dump another, and another? It doesn't make any sense. Those gals were all murdered within a mile or so of Oak Beach. The answers lie at Oak Beach.

2. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house in similar circumstances as the GB4. They were Online escorts from various places and murdered.

3. It seems as though the GB4 were killed in a controlled situation. Killed at the location they were at and disposed of when the killer thought he was safe.

4. If we believe the above to be true then we have to believe the killer(s) felt safe with dumping three additional bodies at the same location. We can believe they were able to monitor the dumping sites and know if there was any police activity. We can assume they knew they were free to go so long as the cops weren't involved.

5. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house and she spent 3 hours there. Three hours to spend with one client, perhaps, 2 or more is a long time for a working gal to spend.

6. I believe SG had heard rumors of some gals that went missing and she was desperate to make good money that was promised her. After spending near 3 hours something startled her and we now know she left Brewer's house and called 911, screaming: "They are trying to kill me." We don't know what else she may have said because the 23 minute tape has never been released.

7. If SG was murdered we have to assume she wasn't killed in a 'controlled' circumstance, and that is why her body is in a different location than the GB4. She was certainly dead at another location that was equally as hard to find as the GB4.

8. We also know her body wasn't found until BLUE and his handler stumbled over one of the GB4, and 3 others.

9. We know that SG was seen running in the opposite direction of where the GB4 were found and we also can believe no one ever bothered to look in that direction until the GB4 were found. One has to wonder if the cops didn't look in that direction when I believe they had every reason to believe that was the direction she was last seen then one has to wonder why?

10. We have to believe Dormer suggesting she may have died accidentally when the ME's report has yet to determine a cause of death. We have to ask WHY would he do that if not to misdirect the public?

11. The removal of Brewer as the prime suspect in all 5 cases at that point in the 'investigation' is a remarkable feat even for Sherlock Holmes.

12. What this tells me is several things: A. Dormer and Spota have a pretty good idea who the killer is and has a good idea how the other gals were killed.

13. We know that Harry Feingold was a well know drug dealer in Babylon that went to jail for 10 years.

14. We know that Feingold then went into the sex trade business after he got out of jail. We know that because he openly advertised his wares on the Internet. We also know he was in the sex-trade business.

15. We know that in 2004, Feingold sold a house to a Bellone/Schaffer confidante named Robert Stricoff. We know he sold the house for the same of 825k when the usual real estate web sites placed the value near 425K. We know that to this day t
he same house is valued near 600K.

16. We know that Stricoff somehow managed to secure a mortgage for 700K for a house that was reported to be worth no more than 425K. We know this happened at the height of the mortgage fraud debacle.

17. What we don't know is how much Stricoff actually paid this convicted drug dealer, turned sex trade operative other than what the official records allegedly tell us.


More later. I don't think this is hard to follow..........

Keep going, if you please, you're on a roll.
 
Would certain members of LE back off from this case if it simply looked like one of the above COULD BE responsible? Directly or indirectly. Therefore covering up someones azz early on instead of later on?
 
I can only guess of what may have happened as there is no way to know what the LE has so far in their 'investigation.'

1. The GB4 were killed not far from the dump site. The spacing of the bodies tell me they were each dumped at different times. Had they all been dumped, or two or three were dumped, and then the others I would expect they would all be dumped at the same location. Why risk parking and dump one body, drive off to dump another, and another? It doesn't make any sense. Those gals were all murdered within a mile or so of Oak Beach. The answers lie at Oak Beach.

2. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house in similar circumstances as the GB4. They were Online escorts from various places and murdered.

3. It seems as though the GB4 were killed in a controlled situation. Killed at the location they were at and disposed of when the killer thought he was safe.

4. If we believe the above to be true then we have to believe the killer(s) felt safe with dumping three additional bodies at the same location. We can believe they were able to monitor the dumping sites and know if there was any police activity. We can assume they knew they were free to go so long as the cops weren't involved.

5. We know that SG was brought to Brewer's house and she spent 3 hours there. Three hours to spend with one client, perhaps, 2 or more is a long time for a working gal to spend.

6. I believe SG had heard rumors of some gals that went missing and she was desperate to make good money that was promised her. After spending near 3 hours something startled her and we now know she left Brewer's house and called 911, screaming: "They are trying to kill me." We don't know what else she may have said because the 23 minute tape has never been released.

7. If SG was murdered we have to assume she wasn't killed in a 'controlled' circumstance, and that is why her body is in a different location than the GB4. She was certainly dead at another location that was equally as hard to find as the GB4.

8. We also know her body wasn't found until BLUE and his handler stumbled over one of the GB4, and 3 others.

9. We know that SG was seen running in the opposite direction of where the GB4 were found and we also can believe no one ever bothered to look in that direction until the GB4 were found. One has to wonder if the cops didn't look in that direction when I believe they had every reason to believe that was the direction she was last seen then one has to wonder why?

10. We have to believe Dormer suggesting she may have died accidentally when the ME's report has yet to determine a cause of death. We have to ask WHY would he do that if not to misdirect the public?

11. The removal of Brewer as the prime suspect in all 5 cases at that point in the 'investigation' is a remarkable feat even for Sherlock Holmes.

12. What this tells me is several things: A. Dormer and Spota have a pretty good idea who the killer is and has a good idea how the other gals were killed.

13. We know that Harry Feingold was a well know drug dealer in Babylon that went to jail for 10 years.

14. We know that Feingold then went into the sex trade business after he got out of jail. We know that because he openly advertised his wares on the Internet. We also know he was in the sex-trade business.

15. We know that in 2004, Feingold sold a house to a Bellone/Schaffer confidante named Robert Stricoff. We know he sold the house for the same of 825k when the usual real estate web sites placed the value near 425K. We know that to this day t
he same house is valued near 600K.

16. We know that Stricoff somehow managed to secure a mortgage for 700K for a house that was reported to be worth no more than 425K. We know this happened at the height of the mortgage fraud debacle.

17. What we don't know is how much Stricoff actually paid this convicted drug dealer, turned sex trade operative other than what the official records allegedly tell us.


More later. I don't think this is hard to follow..........

Hawk.... point 14.

The only thing I could find on the internet was the mention about him - going to produce a reality show (dont think it eventuated though)

Do you have any other links that he was involved in the "trade" business.....because I cant seem to find anything.

I can only find a connection with an events management company, and haven't been able to scratch up anything shonky as yet with that company....
 
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