The Science Fair-IB Expo and the Electric Project

[dartemis]

Here are 2 more pictures of Kyron's Tree Frog Project. (both are an up close view of the intricate detail that went into the project)








ETA: I had not seen these posted here, but if they are duplicates feel free to delete...

The second pic of the diorama is against a background of green-on-white flowered wallpaper...definitely not in the classroom and not a pic I remeber seeing on Terri's FB. I could be wrong but I think it's important to find out where these pics came from.

 

[dartemis]

I understand that if a child were absent from school, the school would not place a call to the parent. However, what happened here is not a case of simply being absent. This is a child that went to school that day.

What I don't understand, is Kyron was NOT absent that day. He was there, then we was gone. The teacher didn't take action to find him - either she is insanely negligent, or, she had good reason to not worry because she had been led to believe his not coming back to class was justified by something someone told her. She clearly was not worried that Kyron never made it back to class........why??????

Do we know if this teacher is still employed with the school district?

You are absolutely correct. As a former teacher I can tell you that no, we didn't always call home when a child was absent but, if I had seen the child at the school earlier in the day and then he was gone, I would have absolutely called or had the office call home. That would have been a huge red flag to a teacher unless she was a distracted fool (hard to imagine anyone in that job being that irresponsible) or she was told by a parent that he would be leaving. School would have had a sign-out procedure to remove him but that would have been in the office, not the classroom and the teacher wouldn't have known if Terri actually signed him out. What I would have thought she might have wondered about is why Terri gave her papers to fill out for the doctor and not collected them before she left with Kyron. If she gave her the papers that day, teacher might have thought they were to be sent to doctor later. I understand Terri e-mailed teacher in afternoon about picking up project...I never did that as a parent. I think she did it to see if teacher had noticed or reported Kyron's absence in order to determine how much lead time she had to get him out of town or whatever she did with him.

 

[MysteryAddict]

I understand that if a child were absent from school, the school would not place a call to the parent. However, what happened here is not a case of simply being absent. This is a child that went to school that day.

What I don't understand, is Kyron was NOT absent that day. He was there, then we was gone. The teacher didn't take action to find him - either she is insanely negligent, or, she had good reason to not worry because she had been led to believe his not coming back to class was justified by something someone told her. She clearly was not worried that Kyron never made it back to class........why??????

Do we know if this teacher is still employed with the school district?

This teacher being so negligent over Kyron's disappearance that day is a
fact that has bothered me from the beginning!

Wasn't his backpack still hanging in the back of the room?? I thought so.
If a kid is going to be out the rest of the day, I think he would take his stuff
with him. Right?

This teacher's action (non action) sounds suspicious to me. I hope she was
thoroughly questioned by Le.

It's one of the dots that just doesn't connect.

 

[gardeness]

I just watched T.'s interview again, and I agree with the people who speculate that the "substitute" teacher could have been a volunteer, or a teacher's aide. On a busy day like that, it's not unheard of for all the extra personnel in a school (and any volunteers~room mothers or other moms) to help out. I am just wondering why the school spokesman, Matt Shelby, didn't acknowledge that there could have been another adult in the room instead of, "Shelby thinks Pumala may be confused because all week after the disappearance a subsitute teacher has been at the school to help with the stress of the Horman case."

Anyways...it still bothers me that this is not a point of interest in the case any more.

 

[MagnoliaMom]

I would like someone to give a simple "yes" or "no" to whether a substitute teacher was there viewing the science projects whether she/he was there in the role of a substitute teacher for that particular day of the science fair or not. Could there have been one at the school that day? I could see one coming because the children asked them on a prior day to please come see their projects or just to be supportive. Just because one wasn't being paid in that role for the day doesn't mean one wasn't there. And the students would call them a substitute because that is what they have known them as.

I am in full agreement that since Kyron had been seen earlier at the school he should never have been marked absent. I don't buy that the teacher was confused by squat hollered across a crowded, noisy room especially with the comment that maybe he had gone to get water or such. The marking absent was to cover up that she didn't check up on him. Incompetence at her duties is what it seems to me. That school is not that big. She could have walked to the office to see if he was signed out. Let's get real here; she could have text the office.

 

[DairyGirl]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

First question on the video at the bottom of this page. Kaine is asked where baby K was that morning.
This really shocks me. I just can't believe that she would do something to her stepson with her baby there. This is the first thing I have heard that makes me doubt she did this but I really feel strongly that she did. If she harmed him with the baby there then that is just evil and sick. There are no words.

 

[azmama]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

First question on the video at the bottom of this page. Kaine is asked where baby K was that morning.
This really shocks me. I just can't believe that she would do something to her stepson with her baby there. This is the first thing I have heard that makes me doubt she did this but I really feel strongly that she did. If she harmed him with the baby there then that is just evil and sick. There are no words.

Wow! That blows me away! She is 19 months old? This story just gets worse and worse! Yet another reason why she should not get any "parenting time" with Baby K.

I do seriously believe TH did this, or is involved, but look at the other side (WHAT IF) she is not! It is so hard to fathom that she did something with the baby along with them both.

 

[DairyGirl]

It does make me lean towards to her handing him off. I just can't even let myself go there if she hurt that little boy with his sister there

 

[21merc7]

Huh? Wasn't it reported the baby was with a sitter?

 

[LadyL]

what if someone else did her dirty work for her? just speculating ...

 

[DairyGirl]

Huh? Wasn't it reported the baby was with a sitter?

It was assumed. I mean who takes a baby when you are getting rid of your stepson? Maybe she thought it would make her look more innocent.
If you watch the video in the link at the top of the page the first thing they ask is were was the baby and Kaine confirms that she was with TH at the science fair.

 

[LadyL]

Huh? Wasn't it reported the baby was with a sitter?

I don't think so. I think there were rumours and even a psychic on a news discussion site with different claims. I don't remember it ever being verified for us.

 

[DairyGirl]

what if someone else did her dirty work for her? just speculating ...

I guess it could go either way. I mean if there was a helper wouldn't they have weeded them out by now? They found her landscaper from 7 months ago and LE contacted another landscaper that tried to call TH about a bid but she never contacted him back. They are going through everyone she ever spoke with it seems. Maybe a girlfriend that she talks to regularly? Maybe told her that she needed to protect Kyron by getting him away? I'm just grasping here.
I also think she could have taken him from the science fair, drove him someplace and hurt him and hid him, baby or no baby. If she is the kind of person that could do that I don't supposed she would worry about a little toddler who can't talk yet.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

First question on the video at the bottom of this page. Kaine is asked where baby K was that morning.
This really shocks me. I just can't believe that she would do something to her stepson with her baby there. This is the first thing I have heard that makes me doubt she did this but I really feel strongly that she did. If she harmed him with the baby there then that is just evil and sick. There are no words.

This is shocking. I think many of us have wondered where the little girl was that morning. For me this is another thing in Terri's favor of her not having done anything to Kyron.

This video is very difficult to watch. What on earth is going on?

 

[mchris1024]

It does make me lean towards to her handing him off. I just can't even let myself go there if she hurt that little boy with his sister there

My gut has told me that she handed him off to someone, I can't imagine her hurting him in front of his sister.

 

[DairyGirl]

This is shocking. I think many of us have wondered where the little girl was that morning. For me this is another thing in Terri's favor of her not having done anything to Kyron.

This video is very difficult to watch. What on earth is going on?

It is hard to believe she would take her baby with her to give Kyron away or hurt him but it doesn't rule her out, either. She just may be that cold blooded. Or the worse victim in the world with the bad luck of being the last person to see him, who's stories don't add up and can't pass a LDT.

 

[azmama]

I would like to think that this means she didn't hurt him, that she handed him off to be held somewhere, but she did try to hire someone to kill KH, so is seems quite possible that she could do the same for Little Kyron.

It just never occured to me that Baby K could have been there! That is a shocking revelation!

 

[DairyGirl]

My gut has told me that she handed him off to someone, I can't imagine her hurting him in front of his sister.

I hope you are right. I hope they are looking at all her friends. She may have people close to her that it wouldn't be unusual for her to be talking to them regularly.

 

[PaulaF513]

So odd that noone mentioned the baby being with her that day...another puzzling aspect of this maddening case. It's so hard to imagine she would harm one child in the presence of another. It's sickening. K is 19 months old isn't she? I wonder how articulate she is and if she has been creatively interviewed. If she witnessed something horrific, she may well react in some way when asked about it, Granted LE would not be able to use "testimony" from a baby, however she may be able to point them is the right direction to find Kyron.

 

[DairyGirl]

So odd that noone mentioned the baby being with her that day...another puzzling aspect of this maddening case. It's so hard to imagine she would harm one child in the presence of another. It's sickening. K is 19 months old isn't she? I wonder how articulate she is and if she has been creatively interviewed. If she witnessed something horrific, she may well react in some way when asked about it, Granted LE would not be able to use "testimony" from a baby, however she may be able to point them is the right direction to find Kyron.

Sadly I don't think you could get any useful information from a child that young. My kids didn't start getting really verbal until 2 and even that it was the bare minimum as far as communication.