katydid23
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Knew it. You think they'll retry him?
I think they have to.
Knew it. You think they'll retry him?
Thank you for the link!This is an interesting article it's lawyers and trial experts assessing the case and each of them give their opinions on what the verdict will be for each count. Apologies if already posted.
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/r...s-weigh-in-on-the-ross-harris-trial/350707305
I live in a region of brutally cold temperatures too. I've never heard of a case of a cold car death---and I agree, it's for all the reasons you have stated plus the fact that metabolism slows WAY down.
An 11 yr old boy fell through the ice years ago in December, was underwater for 45minutes, was clinically dead when brought in, and yet survived.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-12-22/news/mn-30740_1_red-river
Thank you for the link!
The Prosecution wins Malice and Felony:
-Meg Strickler (Criminal defense attorney) - referred Dr. Brewer as 'howdy doody gentleman'
-LaTonia Hines (Prosecutor)
-Joyce Morley (Psychotherapist)- says 'Leanna became his mother'. RH has a borderline personality disorder.
-Darryl Cohen (Criminal defense attorney and former Prosecutor)- RH could not have forgotten Cooper in 3 min after a text saying he needed to be free.
The Prosecution did not prove Malice, Felony yes:
-Vinnie (former Prosecutor)
-Joseph Scott Morgan (Professor of Applied Science)
-Charles Mittelstadt (Criminal Defense consulting firm)
The defense won:
-Randy Kessler (Family attorney)
I agree jdj
Orange is the new black has got to be the dumbest reason IMO to search about prison. The show is set in a prison. You watch the show and see them in prison LOL. IMO he read about prison because he was thinking about the age of consent in Georgia.
And nobody but Ross knows why he read about prison. It is not a fact that it's about the show. That's his attorneys claim. Very different.
As far as not deleting the apps? My opinion is he never thought that would be what they looked for or happened to see. Most criminals are not very bright. And he is a criminal. That is a fact. He sent minors pictures of his penis and he asked for photos back.
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There was NO HISTORY on his phone beyond that day. Weird.
BS if I'm remembering right. I'll have to look today- my apologies if wrong. But that speaks volumes to me.
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I think you're right, or close - I think there wasn't history prior to June 17th. But I'm not sure exactly what history was cleared - just browser? Or all texts? And was anything recovered with the forensic extraction?
These experts were a little bit useless. They were not very familiar with the facts of the case or the law that applies in Ga. IMO
Malice unproven, "felony murder" yes.
Joseph Morgan. "This was an uphill climb for the State, malice very difficult to prove, likely didn't."
Felony murder, yes, because RH was obviously negligent because he left Cooper in the car. On paper, at least, even proving "gross negligence" by RH doesn't suffice to meet the burden of proof for the lesser charge, 2nd degree child cruelty, much less CC in the 1st degree.
Also, the felony murder charges are separate charges. It's theoretically possible for the jury to find him guilty of 2CC , yet to vote not guilty of felony murder.
These experts were a little bit useless. They were not very familiar with the facts of the case or the law that applies in Ga. IMO
One Holloway video said only way likely that jury would convict on one of the cruelty charges and go not guilty on felony murder is if a juror knows the penalties for felony murder and thinks it's too severe. Any felony murder (charges 2&3) is 30 years until parole eligibility.
One reason Kilgore said in closing "murder is murder is murder"
However, jury is not supposed to consider the penalties.
Strickler, Hines and Cohen are all liscensed Georgia attorneys IIRC.
One Holloway video said only way likely that jury would convict on one of the cruelty charges and go not guilty on felony murder is if a juror knows the penalties for felony murder and thinks it's too severe. Any felony murder (charges 2&3) is 30 years until parole eligibility.
One reason Kilgore said in closing "murder is murder is murder"
However, jury is not supposed to consider the penalties.
The penalties were even described in the jury instructions - essentially informing them that punishment for murder and Fremont murder are similar
Yep. I'd love to hear some actual trial analysis by criminal trial attorneys who are familiar with both GA law and what happened at trial.
Watched enough of the videos to get this wasn't that group, and legal analysis wasn't the goal. Oh well.