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A big old Samsonite suitcase is set beneath the window. Who put that there? The suitcase is like a stool to climb up and crawl out the window. .....I rush up the stairs. I tell one of the policemen about the window. I can barely form the words. I'm sick to my stomach. I have to keep my wits about me...."
If he told the police about the window, why didn't he mention the suitcase?
The suitcase shouldn't be here.
Oh really, John? There's quite a few things down there that "shouldn't be here". His surprise at seeing this suitcase on his trip down there with Fleet doesn't fool me. JOhn has already been down in the basement that morning. He knew the suitcase was there already.
Had LS never ran with the suitcase as a step for the intruder, the Ramseys would have tried to act like the suitcase never existed. It was only LS and hindsight when the Ramseys act like the suitcase is a big deal but notice they never want to talk about what was
inside the suitcase. Why? because its contents have nothing to do with any IDI and tell an entirely different story.
And if have to recant a bit on my former truce. I will accept that JB was not in the suitcase after she was finally dead. But I can also accept that JB might have been carried from her bedroom to the basement in that suitcase being unconscious, but still alive. There was activity involving her death which connects to the basement near the paint tray, and I believe she could have been removed from the suitcase alive, and the final evils against her happened in the basement, with the suitcase being carelessly abandoned.
Interesting theory but like others, I don't see the point in placing her in there just to move her down into the basement. The only possible reason might be to move her down there in it in case Burke gets up and sees them doing it and it'll just look like they're getting ready for the trip....but that's a massive leap.
We know how the suitcase got under the window - FW set it there. He said so. We know how the glass got on the suitcase - FW picked it up off the floor (or was it the window ledge?) and set it on the suitcase. He said so.
Excellent point and I don't understand why this fact flies under the radar. I have yet to see a documentary where the pic of the suitcase is shown and they point this out. Instead of saying "Ramsey friend Fleet White moved it to this position while looking around in the basement", we just hear the "intruder used it as a step out the window" nonsense.
I have also yet to see a documentary that tells viewers the contents of this suitcase. In the upcoming series, I hope the suitcase is treated as the evidence it really is and what that may imply.
So, the most sensible thing to do is say that the suitcase may or may not have been involved in the crime, and there is no way to tell. It's a time waster and an energy waster. There is no reason to speculate that JBR may have been placed in the suitcase at any time because we cannot confirm or falsify such a claim. We cannot solve the crime by looking at the suitcase.
While we wont solve the crime by looking at the suitcase, the suitcase is NOT a "time waster". Out of the evidence known publicly, it is one of the most revealing.
And while I suppose the suitcase evidence may never expose the real killer, I sure do wish that suitcase could talk because I think it would have lots to tell about JB's death.
Me too.
Wise advise, and respectfully taken.
You might consider this interesting from TOSOS, just read today (as I said, I have to go slowly with this book), pg 20 (JR is relating info about Pam's trip to the house to gather things):
"Pam wanted to stay in the playroom, wait for Burke and JonBenet to come running in, pull out a book to read to them, Dr. Seuss, maybe, but with the police officer behind her, she kept moving, through the hall, past the upstairs laundry area, toward John Andrew's room."
My internal red light went off twice during this once sentence, over the two bolded bits of info (BBM). What??????
JR had already said that Pam went first to their room to gather personal items for them - clothes, hygiene products, etc. Then to Burke's room for his things. To think she was going to JAR's room for more clothes maybe that Patsy had gathered for the Disney trip - why????
And to bring up the Suess book - that is pure guilty conscience IMHO!! A whole slew of kids books, I would presume, and he references that one?
Give me a break.
wow. Very interesting indeed.
I have not read his book. That statement is tempting me to read it.
WHY would LE release this to Lawrence Schiller? And WHY hasn't anyone else seen this?
Try checking Youtube for Anatomy of Cold Case.
Even if it was an adult Dr. Seuss book, there was another meant for high school/college kids. At this point, it's pure speculation that it was an adult Dr. Seuss book. All we know for sure is that it was Dr. Seuss. Just because something is on TV it doesn't mean it's true.
Even if its NOT the adult Dr Seuss book, which specific Dr Seuss book was found is almost beside the point.....although that specific book being the one does make it even more disturbing.
Dr Seuss books and semen stained blankets are not an innocent combination of items. Do you believe this situation would be perfectly kosher if the book was Cat in the Hat?
To those who find this evidence irrelevant.....
If you went into your child's room(or let's say your laundry area) and found and opened a suitcase containing a semen stained blanket and a Dr Seuss book are you just gonna say, "Oh that's just Cat in the Hat. No biggie" and then close the suitcase?
Man, talk about not being able to see the wood for the trees.
I don't substantiate them and won't be doing so. Instead, I offer you a theory that explains everything. The suitcase is just one of the many false clues that were purposely planted in this case. Did you ever wonder about the contents of the suitcase? If not, you should have. But I want to go beyond the suitcase now and say that all of the clues found at the Ramsey residence were false and contrived, everything except JBR's dead body that is. That was horrifyingly real. It was the only real thing there. The suitcase and its contents is a fraud and anyone trying to understand it as if played any part in the murder is wasting their time.
THis is the strangest post I have ever seen on a JBR forum. You say ALL clues are false and contrived, and the only real clue is Jonbenet's dead body, everyone is wasting their time yet you have offered us a "theory that explains everything".
Wow....
What I say is based upon my own intuitions about the crime, so keep that in mind. I do not think the murder happened at the Ramsey house. I think JBR was murdered elsewhere and then brought to her house where everything was staged to make it appear as if she had been murdered in her house. This suitcase and its contents are just part of that staging. I do not think it has any relation to the murder at all. The RN was penned to purposely draw attention to the R family. Why? Because it is far better for everyone to think one or both of the parents (or BR) murdered their own child than for people to think she was murdered elsewhere by someone else (which is what actually happened). Your attention is meant to go to the family so you won't look somewhere else. No one will ever prove they are guilty of the murder because they are not, however they are well aware of who is.
Ok now I see why you want everyone to ignore all evidence in the case. I think I'll take a pass on that suggestion...
but I have answers for all your questions.
Considering the fact you want everyone to ignore all the evidence, you have NO answers.