The surveillance video-**identified** man and the box of wine

[Kat]

Can I ask a quick question please? Who was watching Lisa and the other kiddo's that day while Deborah was at store? TIA! (just curious)

 

[Clock's Tickin]

So, does anybody know where the kids were during mom's shopping trip? Seems we surmise that dad had already left for work....*deja vu to video of another mom and guy in a Blockbuster store just a few years back*

Really would like to know when Baby Lisa was last seen by a non family member---not accusing---just would like that stamped in the book for sleuthing purposes...

 

[Nana46]

I am going with the dad being home watching the kids while she was at the store. Who knows maybe her car was not running or maybe she did not want to leave dad home with the kiddos without a vehicle...perhaps neighbor or friend took her to the store and she does not look stressed at all on this video, IMO.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

Can I ask a quick question please? Who was watching Lisa and the other kiddo's that day while Deborah was at store? TIA! (just curious)

great minds sleuth alike-I wonder the very same thing

 

[butwhatif?]

The neighbor that gave her a ride to the store is not sleuthable. So everyone carry on from here and remember to be careful not to involve people who have not been named in MSM or haven't spoken out.

As far as that FB and the rumors that were brought here today. If it continues I'm sorry to say there are going to be consequences. Once again it was a rumor that was proven false.

Should I delete the pics I posted above?

I'm not sleuthing the neighbour, was just pointing out that the time stamps on that video show it was suddenly edited at one point.... which could be when the other purchases were picked up...
I'm trying to figure out why we didn't get to see them pick out the other purchases they made....so we could know for certain what else was bought...and what may be missing.

When they show the video the way it is, it makes it look like they were there just for booze. More sensational perhaps.

so is it LE or media editing the footage?

 

[Kat]

I had those same exact thoughts, Gourmet. Also now starting to wonder if this is the neighbor DB was refering to when she said she stayed outside talking to the neighbor for awhile that night. For some reason, I was under the impression that this neighbor was a woman, but maybe I was mistaken in that? :waitasec:

That was my impression too. She was standing outside talking to the neighbor and the neighbor's minor child was inside watching TV with the boys in their room. (from Judge P interview). The reason I think that is because during that interview she references the neighbor then within the next few seconds she says the minor child's name and says "she has a four yr old". JMHO

 

[justbeachy]

Could someone please refresh my memory...what time was Dad at work?

 

[jjenny]

Could someone please refresh my memory...what time was Dad at work?

We don't know. I don't believe it has been reported.

 

[justbeachy]

We don't know. I don't believe it has been reported.

Thank you! I've been looking and all I can find is when he arrived home from work...not when he left for work (or was due to arrive at work).

 

[jjenny]

Thank you! I've been looking and all I can find is when he arrived home from work...not when he left for work (or was due to arrive at work).

If at least we knew how long a shift he was supposed to work we could figure it out. A lot of electricians work 12 hour shifts, but we don't know if this was the case.

 

[justbeachy]

I wonder why they haven't released that info? Seems like kind of a straight-forward, basic fact in the timeline.

 

[eleni777]

Thank you! I've been looking and all I can find is when he arrived home from work...not when he left for work (or was due to arrive at work).

My assumption is that he worked an 8 hour shift and he arrived home at 4 a.m. then I can assume he reported to work at 8 p.m. :twocents:

 

[matou]

Wel I just watched the video from the store and she is smiling and friendly with the guy. He is slouching and just following her around, not emoting much that I can tell. She bought baby wipes and baby food so that makes me think she could have been procuring some supplies for someone to take care of Lisa. Or she just needed baby supplies. I'm feeling the combo of wine and baby supplies doesn't look good though.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15676197/video-shows-lisas-mom

The store said she bought baby wipes, baby food and some boxed wine.

 

[CathyinTexas]

Oddly enough, PD may have never known about this trip if it hadn't been for the receipt they found. I wonder if this trip to the store is news to her husband as well.

That must be why he seems so odd. He doesn't convey trust or affection toward her. He may be just barely hanging on because his beloved daughter is missing, and his wife was up to no good. As much as he doesn't want to believe that she was responsible, things just don't add up. Just my opinion.

 

[In da Middle]

We don't know. I don't believe it has been reported.

There was an interview somewhere (I have no idea where a link is) where he said he left after the baby was put to bed. From that we can guess around 7:30. The video at the store was just before 5pm by the time stamp. I would believe that dad could be the logic one to be with the kids at home.

The 'neighbor' could also be a couple that has a child watching tv with the kids, therefore the he sometimes and she sometimes. Sad it seems people have lost sight that some kids have both parents available.

 

[krimekat]

Could someone please refresh my memory...what time was Dad at work?

it was the first time working at night. Speculation is his shift ended at 330a since he was home by 4a.

Some have indicated that electricians may work 12-hr shifts (3p w/30 mins break for food?)

If it was an 8-hr shift, then 7p w/30 min break for food

I have not seen anything detailing his schedule, just that it was new that night; would like to see something where he was home when Lisa was put to bed but have not found it yet

 

[CathyinTexas]

The wine purchase is significant for several reasons.

1. Who was she with and did she tell LE about this event. (timeline gap) LE has talked about.
2. Who was watching the children?
3. Did you drink this wine enough to become intoxicated
4. Where was she after she bought this wine and with whom?
5. Did this contribute to her not hearing anything that night?
6. Where was Jeremy?

I am now thinking she must have been drunk that night and passed out, and that is why the gaps. How disturbing.

 

[curiositycat]

Watching the video, it appears to me that the guy is one of the family members. Either her brother, or the cousin Mike "somebody or other" who was interviewed and called "a family spokesperson" once or twice. In the pics of the family with the PI last night, this guy was standing by DB's dad, I think. MOO

The fact that she bought baby wipes, and baby food lead me to believe that whatever happened, she wasn't planning on it. Either an accident after dad left, or while she was gone, perhaps dad lost it...

Either way, at that time she expected everything to be normal, as shown by the purchases of the baby wipes, and food.

 

[jjenny]

There was an interview somewhere (I have no idea where a link is) where he said he left after the baby was put to bed. From that we can guess around 7:30. The video at the store was just before 5pm by the time stamp. I would believe that dad could be the logic one to be with the kids at home.

The 'neighbor' could also be a couple that has a child watching tv with the kids, therefore the he sometimes and she sometimes. Sad it seems people have lost sight that some kids have both parents available.

I never heard that he left after the baby was put to bed. And it doesn't make sense. The baby was put to bed supposedly at 7:30 pm. If he left after she was put to bed it doesn't even give him enough time to get to work and work 8 hour shift and get back.

 

[jjenny]

There was an interview somewhere (I have no idea where a link is) where he said he left after the baby was put to bed. From that we can guess around 7:30. The video at the store was just before 5pm by the time stamp. I would believe that dad could be the logic one to be with the kids at home.

The 'neighbor' could also be a couple that has a child watching tv with the kids, therefore the he sometimes and she sometimes. Sad it seems people have lost sight that some kids have both parents available.

If the neighbor were a couple then it should have been neighbors, not neighbor.