Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #7

[pip]

I wonder if there will be more released from TL, especially about that 3 in the AM call w/ KC June 15/16.. Could be interesting if she talked about a big blowout at home.

 

[Solace]

Maybe she parked close to home and slept in her car, couldn't stand Caylee's crying and duct taped her face and put her in the trunk. There are many theories, the only thing we do know is the family lies so everything they say is suspect. JMO

She slept in the car close to home and killed Caylee and put her in the trunk and then went to the house and uploaded a picture of herself on the family computer? Is that what you are saying?

 

[Solace]

RBBM
Cell phone pings put KC either at home, at Lee's or nearby in her car. Same pings.

She was at home at 11:47 a.m. uploading a picture of herself.

 

[Solace]

Perhaps Cindy sent him out to find KC and Caylee out of worry if she left on the 15th w/ Caylee in a rage after the fight.. worried since they didn't return home? They are busy on the internet that AM, calling KC's cell.. maybe Cindy left for work and George's task was to find KC? Cat n mouse game, as soon as KC knew George was out she went in?

Where does it say they were busy on the internet calling KC's cell? I never saw that.

 

[pip]

She was at home at 11:47 a.m. uploading a picture of herself.

Yes, but where was she that morning? Hard to say.

 

[Intermezzo]

KC was on the family computer the next morning. Cell phone pings put her at the house. This is science and it does not lie. I forget what she was looking up on the computer. I think it is on the Hinkey Meter.

She was at the house. Geoge is not roaming the streets. He has a job in the afternoon - he would be home.

There is also the fact that Lee voluteers information and is quite forthcoming in his interview and George does also. I think it is as George says and that he saw her on July 16th.

George and Cindy are shocked that the child was taken and you can hear it in Cindy's 911 call - it is horrific.

He was home on July 16th and so was KC. Pings put here there and so does the family computer I believe.

That's if you believe George was at home, there is only his word that he was.

Scamp,

We have proof that KC was at the home that morning, since she uploaded a picture. Someone else was on the computer that morning also for an hour. And also for an hour the night before from midnight to 1:00 p.m. (when George arrives home). He says he does not immediately go to bed. It was not Cindy the next morning; she is at work. Cell phone pings put KC at home and ALSO Tony Lazarro was questioned by detectives about the length of time he spoke with KC that night. So that takes care of the KC not being home theory the night of June 15th and early morning hours of June 16th.


What is the basis for his lying that he saw her at that time? He went to the detectives unbeknownst to Cindy or Lee to tell them that he smelled decomposition in the car. He is basically telling them he knows KC is guilty of something. It is pointless to accuse him of things that "may" not be true, when pretty much everything points to his telling the truth, about this anyway. Just my opinion.

He changes his story later after he and Cindy and Lee have a huge argument and they tell him he is on the side of the law and not KC's side.

Up until that time, he is telling the detectives what he knows to be true.
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George's recollection of June 16, 2008
1) he is either telling the truth,
2) he is lying or
3) he is confusing dates...

There are Threads in the Resource Links, Case Calendar and Time Lines Forum that discuss this

for your reading pleasure

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84631"]Evening of June 15/morning of June 16 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77267"]2008.06.09 vs 2008.06.16 Why the Discrepancy? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70811"]Seeking Key Info 6/10-6/14 for New Leads - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76112"]George/Lexus & Casey's Contact Pattern - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[pip]

Where does it say they were busy on the internet calling KC's cell? I never saw that.

16 – Midnight to 1:00 am high user activity on desktop
Midnight to 11:00 am no activity on laptop
1:00-7:00 am no user activity on desktop
3:08 am TL calls KC, 14 minutes conversation
7:00-9:00 am high user activity on desktop
7:45 am Anthony home leaves voicemail on KC’s cell
7:45 am KC calls voicemail
9:00-10:00 am no activity on HP desktop
10:00-noon high user activity on desktop
11:00 am to noon – one file accessed on laptop, most likely system activity
JT states that around noon he saw KC and Caylee at the Casselberry Walmart. (acutally he says lunchtime)
11:27 am KC uploads one picture to her photobucket account from desktop (IP ties to Anthony home).
11:47 am TL calls KC, 18 minute phone call
12:00 noon-1:00 pm no activity on HP desktop. No activity on laptop

 

[Solace]

George's recollection of June 16 can be "fuzzy"....
There are Threads in the Resource Links, Case Calendar and Time Lines Forum that discuss this

for your reading pleasure

Evening of June 15/morning of June 16 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

2008.06.09 vs 2008.06.16 Why the Discrepancy? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Seeking Key Info 6/10-6/14 for New Leads - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

George/Lexus & Casey's Contact Pattern - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thanks much. George says Cindy saw Caylee; Cindy says she did not.

We can agree to disagree. I believe he said goodbye to KC and Caylee on that date. That ends that one.
Thanks again.

 

[celticthyme]

Maybe she parked close to home and slept in her car, couldn't stand Caylee's crying and duct taped her face and put her in the trunk. There are many theories, the only thing we do know is the family lies so everything they say is suspect. JMO

I've always wondered if she was not down at Lee's. At that time he lived in her home ping area.

 

[Solace]

I've always wondered if she was not down at Lee's. At that time he lived in her home ping area.

He knew nothing about this and was called by his father to go see what is happening.

The last time he talked with his mother was July 3rd and he was out all night trying to find KC.

He volunteers his interview with detectives and he is not looking like he is on KC's side.

If she were at Lee's he would not have to ask here where is the baby. He would know she did not have her. But he does not know that and he tells his mother to call police. ARe we reading the same stuff?

 

[pip]

I've always wondered if she was not down at Lee's. At that time he lived in her home ping area.

If you read this interview, the SA also seem quite interested in the possibility that she went to Lee's house the night of the fight maybe? They ask some interesting questions re: a key, his roomate etc. I have yet to see an interview released with BL, Lee's roomie.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

 

[pip]

He knew nothing about this and was called by his father to go see what is happening.

The last time he talked with his mother was July 3rd and he was out all night trying to find KC.

He volunteers his interview with detectives and he is not looking like he is on KC's side.

If she were at Lee's he would not have to ask here where is the baby. He would know she did not have her. But he does not know that and he tells his mother to call police. ARe we reading the same stuff?

Just because he didn't know about it, doesn't mean KC didn't go to his house on the 15th without his knowledge as well. Has it ever been publicly established where Lee or his roommate were on the 15th? Were they out of town? Just not home?

 

[Solace]

Just because he didn't know about it, doesn't mean KC didn't go to his house on the 15th without his knowledge as well.

Right.

Pip. This started out with Zsa Zsa saying George never saw his daughter on the 16th. I pointed out that KC was at the Anthony home on the 16th using the computer. I think George was there as well. If you choose to believe otherwise, please go ahead. I don't see the reason for it. I think we are all know that George and Cindy are lying about many many things.

Lee has said he did not see his sister after the 3rd. I know he was out of town after the third but certainly not for two weeks; I think he would have told LE he saw her after July 3rd

The reason I think this is because I don't believe that Lee wants to go to jail for lying for KC. He is too protective of himself.

However, if you feel that they are lying about all this, I hope you are able to figure it out and let us all know.

 

[Intermezzo]

Lee also, iirc, had a room mate..
If anyone is interested that is a Thread where Lee's house is discussed to sleuth out if Casey was hanging out, hiding out...etc... there

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83070"]Lee's house available for Caylee-care - June 2008? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[pip]

Right.

Pip. This started out with Zsa Zsa saying George never saw his daughter on the 16th. I pointed out that KC was at the Anthony home on the 16th using the computer. I think George was there as well. If you choose to believe otherwise, please go ahead. I don't see the reason for it. I think we are all know that George and Cindy are lying about many many things.

Lee has said he did not see his sister after the 3rd. I know he was out of town after the third but certainly not for two weeks; I think he would have told LE he saw her after July 3rd

The reason I think this is because I don't believe that Lee wants to go to jail for lying for KC. He is too protective of himself.

However, if you feel that they are lying about all this, I hope you are able to figure it out and let us all know.

Some believe George saw them the 16th, some do not. Yes, KC uploaded a pic on the 16th @ 11 something, but where was she earlier that morning (as in the night of the 15th to morning of 16th b4 she uploaded that photo)? Why would the Anthony home phone call KC on her cell @ 7:45 the morning of the 16th? There is some lying going on here. And I am not saying Lee is lying about when he saw her last. It is possible KC went to Lee's the night of the 15th without his knowledge.

 

[Solace]

Some believe George saw them the 16th, some do not. Yes, KC uploaded a pic on the 16th @ 11 something, but where was she earlier that morning (as in the night of the 15th to morning of 16th b4 she uploaded that photo)? Why would the Anthony home phone call KC on her cell @ 7:45 the morning of the 16th? There is some lying going on here. And I am not saying Lee is lying about when he saw her last. It is possible KC went to Lee's the night of the 15th without his knowledge.

Do you know if Lee was not at his home the night of the 15th?

 

[pip]

Do you know if Lee was not at his home the night of the 15th?

No. But I do know that nothing has been released that I have ever found as to his or his roomies whereabouts that night. May or may not have been. I have always wondered if no one was home and that KC was pinging from there the night of the 15th. I am interested in seeing an interview with his roomie BL. I personally believe no one was home if she went there, I don't believe Lee is lying.

 

[logicalgirl]

Cherishtoo has just posted this news release in Todays News No Discussion. Thought it might be appropriate in the "What happened to Caylee" thread.
Thank you Cherishtoo!

"Defense expert Werner Spitz challenges autopsy findings

Quote:
He challenges the findings of Orange-Osceola Chief Medical Examiner Jan Garavaglia. He particularly takes issue with Garavaglia's saying, "Although there is no trauma evident on the skeleton, there is duct tape over the lower facial region still attached to head hair. This duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomposition, keeping the mandible in place."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1029163.story"

 

[Solace]

No. But I do know that nothing has been released that I have ever found as to his or his roomies whereabouts that night. May or may not have been. I have always wondered if no one was home and that KC was pinging from there the night of the 15th. I am interested in seeing an interview with his roomie BL. I personally believe no one was home if she went there, I don't believe Lee is lying.

I see.

If you notice Anthony home leaves voice mail on KC's phone at 7:45 and at 7:45 KC calls her voice mail.

I am going to say Cindy called KC's phone and left a message for KC (she had a fight with her the night before and wanted to talk to her before she left for the day). I am also going to say the KC was in her bedroom and since they were fighting from the night before, CA left a voice mail. I would have done that.

Anyway, nice talking to you. Have a great evening.

The trial will be interesting.

 

[pip]

I see.

If you notice Anthony home leaves voice mail on KC's phone at 7:45 and at 7:45 KC calls her voice mail.

I am going to say Cindy called KC's phone and left a message for KC (she had a fight with her the night before and wanted to talk to her before she left for the day). I am also going to say the KC was in her bedroom and since they were fighting from the night before, CA left a voice mail. I would have done that.

Anyway, nice talking to you. Have a great evening.

The trial will be interesting.

Yes, the trial should be interesting. I am going to say Cindy called KC's cell because KC wasn't home. Nice talking to you too Hope we find out at trial!