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The school house was still standing when we lived in the canyon. I believed it burned down after we moved away. I dont recall it being suspicious and I think the people that were living there or owned it stayed there in the rebuilt shack or humble house. I remember the structure being non-descript. The original School was a nice building with big south facing windows. We were sad when it burned. It was the last real structure from the original town of Purissima I believe. The town had an interesting history as one of the last stops on the Ocean Shore Railroad that never connected to Santa Crruz, causing the town to decline and eventually go away. Maybe someone could dig up the story in the Half Moon Bay Review from when it burned down.
 
So the school house and the shack where 2 seperate buildings? :doh:
 
Among the photos that were found by Joe Ford and annasbro in the abandoned shack was a picture that showed what appears to be part of the shack's entrance. I will hunt down those pictures and post them tonight (hopefully).
 
Joe can verify this but to my knowledge - the shack and the school house are two different structures. There was a humble house built on the foundation of the burned down school house. The shack where the "wild man" lived was across the street and west of the cemetery in the grove of eucalyptus trees. The school house structure was directly north of the cemetery. Here are a couple of images of the layout

grove and school house.jpg

Purisima school house.jpg
 
Wow, Joe Ford is Good, he was way ahead of everyone on this one! Here is the response I received from the cemetery lady:



Hi L.,
I know about Anna Waters because I've been in contact with her step-father (Mr. Ford). He emailed me soon after I transcribed the cemetery and we had a nice long email chat about local history and his step-daughter. Nice guy.
I'm only 36 years old, and I've lived here on the coast for about 4 years, I'm defintely a "newcomer"
around these parts. So aside from the knowledge of the case that I got from Mr. Ford and what I was able to find on the internet, I know nothing of an old man or what might have occurred back in the 1970s (I was just a kid then myself, about Anna's age).
The 1930s listing of graves in the cemetery were done by a woman who today is very likely dead (If you figure she was about 30 when she did the transcribing, she would have been born about 1900, even with a date of birth in the 1910s, she's likely dead today). Her transcription is in the San Mateo County archives, which is how I came into posession of it, so I had no contact at all with her or her descendants. The folks who turned me on to the location of her work also visited the cemetery around 2005. No one else helped me with the transcription.
However, there are many, many old timers here in Half Moon Bay who have lived here their whole lives, and belong to families that have been here for generations. These folks have some serious stories to tell if you give them half a chance. I have run into many of them around town while at the other old cemeteries here and have learned some very interesting things about the history of HMB. I don't know if anyone has tried talking to any of them about this mysterious old man, but I wonder if any of them would know anything. Half Moon Bay is like many other small towns, and I imagine it was more so in the 1970s...
there are folks who know things and they're usually not too hard to find. So that's the only word of assistance I can offer you.
I'm a mother of young ones myself, and Anna's story just breaks my heart for her poor mother and step-father and the others who loved her and don't know what happened to her. I very much wish I had some good information to offer you.
D.
 
While looking at Anna's story, I was also researching my own family history and found that many of my relatives were buried in that cemetery by the 'wild man'. I know many of the old bay area families as they married each other and the lines cross throughout our histories. I have asked some very old relatives (98yrs) that might know something, but no luck so far. My particular line of people had moved to the east bay area from the 1860's on. I am currently looking into finding anyone that may still live in the area, and if I find anyone I will be sure to let you all know. I also know decendants of the line of people who owned the farm where annasmom lived, but I cannot seem to find anyone who is directly related or knows anything at all, none of them that I could find live anywhere near there, they have all moved east, and the history is lost to some of them. I will keep trying, I have good connections, but nothing that comes close enough to the area to do any good at this time.
(ps. I am Anna's age, so I do not know many of the 'old-timers" :)
 
This thread will be for discussion for possible involvement by various cults. If you have a theory that concerns organizations such as Synannon or the People's Temple, please post them here.
 
OT- Doogie, did you ever contact the guy who blogged about Zim's? I realize it is a long shot, but wonder with his narcissim if he ever shared comments or theorys about bad parents, adoption........

Also, was wondering if you were going to start a new topic with a "recap". Possibly indicating/bullet pointing previous theorys and what has been eliminated.

Doog, you are doing a fantastic job! I know we were all surpised, the dna results were not what we expected, but we need to persevere.....

Anna is out there somewhere, and something is telling me we need to keep figuring out how to get this info accessible to where she might be. A way for her to see it......... We are exploring the adoption sights..... Would like more idea's for expansion........

big hugs....... (there is a smiley I see on another board with a happy face which just wraps arms around..... wish it were here...... pretend you see it.)
 
Cubby said:
OT- Doogie, did you ever contact the guy who blogged about Zim's? I realize it is a long shot, but wonder with his narcissim if he ever shared comments or theorys about bad parents, adoption...
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I am attempting contact and will try again tonight (I don't want to leave a "bizarre" message on his answering machine that would frighten him away). I am pessimistic that he will have anything of value, but I do want follow this through to its conclusion so we can know for sure.
 
Dr. Doogie said:
I am attempting contact and will try again tonight (I don't want to leave a "bizarre" message on his answering machine that would frighten him away). I am pessimistic that he will have anything of value, but I do want follow this through to its conclusion so we can know for sure.
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I was a realtor at one time, it amazed me how much people spilled. I recall some guy pulling up his pant leg to show me his ankle bracelet and talking about his previous drug dealings while I was waiting on a client for a showing.

You really never know, and showing interest,..........

Gossip like vanity never goes out of style.

In my circle, I ran into John Fecarrota, I'll never forget trying to engage him in conversation......when I was dumb and a teenager. ( mobster gunned down - supposedly botched the spilatro bros hit...... which was supposed to have happened in Bensenville and Not Indiana......) and a few others...... Grace and John Marcantante...... DV issue, Melky Terry.....and a few other locals -

Don't discount anything...... My old roomie spent 2 yrs in prison, and it wsa his arrogance, not getting caught and 20 or so years of trouble.... that lead to my sitting and listening.........
 
I cannot seem to understand that over 200 people (mostly children) could be buried in Oakland, with absolutely no documentation of who any of them were. Someone, somewhere, that escaped Jonestown, or the FBI or someone, must have some sort of records that belonged to all those people. ESPECIALLY if they were receiving state monies for SS or disability. How can we research this avenue further?
 
Here is a little snippet from an e-mail I received from Fielding McGehee III:

There was very little information taken from the bodies in Jonestown. It's been a frustration since the first week, and here we are 29 years later, paying the price again. There were no tissue samples taken, no autopsies of any meaning (only seven performed out of all the bodies, and most had been previously embalmed, making the autopsies meaningless), no fingerprint records, nothing. Photos did not/would not have helped either. That's the reason there ARE so many unidentified. In other words, in terms of preserving a record for future technology to take another crack at, it just plain wasn't done.
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Annasmom said:
Maybe someone could remind me why we're considering the Jonestown victims in our search for Anna.
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It is because of the perceived resemblence between Georgianna Brady and Anna (both in name and in looks). You had commented earlier that you did not believe that Georgianna was Anna based on her picture.
 
Annasmom said:
Maybe someone could remind me why we're considering the Jonestown victims in our search for Anna.
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Below is a post I made in February. I need to clear up a few things that I have learned since then. First there where 408 UID (mostly children) from Jonestown, and not the 234 I first reported from a different source. Secondly, I'm not positive Georgiann Brady is Anna, but still, there are so many coincidences that she could have very well still been there. With all due respect, I know this is not an angle anyone would like to explore, but there are 300+ kids buried in Evergreen Cemetery who where thought to be originally from the area, (that's why the SF/Oakland area was chosen as a final resting place) None of them have been identified. There is so much more I have previously posted, but was rarely commented on.

Jones moved his congregation to the San Fransisco Area in 1965, and by 1972/73 his socialist views where becoming very wide known, and spread to the LA area. At this point the Peoples Temple was running nursing homes which was also rumored to house up to 150 foster children. Jones was excepting anyone into his "Temple" who would benefit him, (ie. social security benefits, welfare, insurance policies (?)...) As early as 1974 a small group of "pioneers" moved to Guyana to begin the building of the compound. By 1977 there where around 1000 followers living on the Guyana Compound, about 1/3 children. After the mass suicide/murder by drinking Cyanide poison mixed in a grape drink, (11-18-78), over 900 bodies where left to decompose in the blistering sun of Guyana for several days. After it was all said and done, 234 unidentified people, (mostly children) where buried in a mass grave at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland, CA

In the "Plan" the L's could be the Laytons (Several members of this family where devote followers of Jones as well as his Benefactors & Mistresses) - I have yet to tie them to GW/GB Though the setting up a life insurance policy with Anna as the beneficiary and later changing it to ?? (Jones/Layton/Peoples Temple) to secure her place there seems possible.

Brody & Waters supported the socialist society

Interestingly Brody was cremated/funeral was at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. Why there with all the hundreds of other options?

Waters committed suicide by drinking Poison. A gun to the head, overdose of drugs or jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge would all be popular options, but he drank poison. I wonder what kind of poison it was?
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PS: I have since learned that it was cyanide Waters drank, but someone said he was mimicking someone else, not Jonestown. I have also wrote to Debra Layton 4 times with no response.
 
iNTERESTEDWOMAN said:
Below is a post I made in February. I need to clear up a few things that I have learned since then. First there where 408 UID (mostly children) from Jonestown, and not the 234 I first reported from a different source. Secondly, I'm not positive Georgiann Brady is Anna, but still, there are so many coincidences that she could have very well still been there. With all due respect, I know this is not an angle anyone would like to explore, but there are 300+ kids buried in Evergreen Cemetery who where thought to be originally from the area, (that's why the SF/Oakland area was chosen as a final resting place) None of them have been identified. There is so much more I have previously posted, but was rarely commented on.

PS: I have since learned that it was cyanide Waters drank, but someone said he was mimicking someone else, not Jonestown. I have also wrote to Debra Layton 4 times with no response.
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If I recall, the GW cyanide connection had to do with some interest in Hitler and GW wrote to someone inquiring about the "recipe"/concoction.

I, like Doogie and Annasmom saw no resemblence between Georgieanne, her siblings and Anna.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall any reference mentioned in the BFH with any cults other than GW's interest in " investing " or some kind of interest in synanon.
 
In reference to the discussions that we have had in the past concerning Synanon and the picture of the little girl there. I was reading the guest book for the Synanon Museum this morning and came across what I think is an interesting statement.


"I was not a Synanon kid, but a child who my parents dropped off there."

http://www.synanon.org/synanon/Museum/GuestBook.cfm

I have said it before and I will say it again. I think Anna could have been taken there by the 2 Georges and blended right in. I just can't get past the picture of the little girl who looked so much like Anna. The name "Christian" on the box was just icing on the cake.
I have emailed the person who posted that remeark in the guest book. I will post the reply if I get one.
 
Shadow205 said:
In reference to the discussions that we have had in the past concerning Synanon and the picture of the little girl there. I was reading the guest book for the Synanon Museum this morning and came across what I think is an interesting statement.


"I was not a Synanon kid, but a child who my parents dropped off there."

http://www.synanon.org/synanon/Museum/GuestBook.cfm

I have said it before and I will say it again. I think Anna could have been taken there by the 2 Georges and blended right in. I just can't get past the picture of the little girl who looked so much like Anna. The name "Christian" on the box was just icing on the cake.
I have emailed the person who posted that remeark in the guest book. I will post the reply if I get one.
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I am right there with you on this. I just want to know who the girl is..that's all, then I can move on from it. Great find Shadow, and excellent theory, IMO, FWIW.
 
Cubby said:
If I recall, the GW cyanide connection had to do with some interest in Hitler and GW wrote to someone inquiring about the "recipe"/concoction.

I, like Doogie and Annasmom saw no resemblence between Georgieanne, her siblings and Anna.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall any reference mentioned in the BFH with any cults other than GW's interest in " investing " or some kind of interest in synanon.
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I agree Cubby... while Synanon may be a possibility, I just cannot get into the Jonestown theory.
 
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