Theory: Tammi as the Third Party to put Gabe in hiding w/couple

[artsy1]

I was thinking about the most recent court images, and something stuck out at me. TS's hair has faded brown on the ends. So I thought more about all the interviews and her hair was really dark in those interviews. Well, one thing, I know alot about hair color, is when you bleach your hair blond, and then dye it again, it will fade. So, i noticed her hair got shorter and shorter. Where the faded brown is would be equivalent to the five months worth of growth. What if the couple was wearing sunglasses, TS could easily change her voice and appearance. EJ would never know. What if JS stayed at the hotel or vehicle with H when the hand off took place. Maybe, TS made EJ think there was another couple involved, when in fact it was her. TS and JS were in the entertainment business, so I have no doubt that they can change their apprearances with facial addons and makeup.

I don't want to post anymore about this because of G's safety.

There's no way to say this without sounding rude. Having said that, do you think that TS can REALLY fit this description?

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"The female is described as slender, approximately 5’6” with blonde hair that fell below the shoulder."

http://www.babygabrielfoundation.org/story.html

 

[OneLove]

There's no way to say this without sounding rude. Having said that, do you think that TS can REALLY fit this description?

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"The female is described as slender, approximately 5’6” with blonde hair that fell below the shoulder."

http://www.babygabrielfoundation.org/story.html

:thumb: Good call !

 

[danisisa]

If EJ has been telling the full truth about everything now...I have some issues still.

1. What did she do with her laptop so LE can search for clues.
2. WHere and when did she buy her disposable phones. They could then get the phone numbers and records for them.
3. Composite sketch of couple and are they comparing it to TS's friends on Facebook.
4. WHo the HG is.
5. What did the car seat look like that G was picked up in.
6. What did she do after the couple left with G...DId she look away from them. There is only one parking lot.
7. Was the couple wearing any identifiable jewlery, ie..wedding rings.
8. DId the couple have an accent.
9. How did G react toward them...Was he scared, or did it seem like he knew them.
10. Did Ej give her phone to them and have the locations of where it pinged been checked for people stopping that fit that MO.

 

[BeanE]

Reminder:

As much as we may want to name and/or sleuth people, we can not, unless they are persons of interest or suspects or charged persons in this case, as named by LE or mainstream media.

If you wish to sleuth people off the board, you are, of course, welcome to. But they simply can not be named and sleuthed here, simply because they happen to be a friend or relative of one of the players in this case (e.g. Elizabeth, Tammi, Jack).

If you are suspicious of someone, please keep it to yourself. Save yourself a timeout.

Thank you -
BeanE

 

[artsy1]

:crazy: Gosh, I guess I'd better reread posts before I quote them. I don't remember seeing anyone other than TayJay referred to in the post I quoted. I totally missed anything else! :crazy:

 

[BeanE]

If EJ has been telling the full truth about everything now...I have some issues still.

8. DId the couple have an accent.

Ken said the couple didn't have accents.

 

[CathyinTexas]

BBM

JOSTAD: What kind of things were you hoping that police would look at on your computers? What information there would be relevant to the search?

SMITH: Well, OK, in — from the beginning, in talking to the police, they asked us, you know, did we ever try to help her. And I said, Well, the only way we ever tried to help her was, you know, before we knew she could change her — whether or not she could change jurisdictions. She was telling us that she was going to run. She was go into hiding, change her Social Security number.

And so we panicked at that point, and we did not want that baby to vanish into thin air for the rest of his life. And so we were grabbing at straws, like the police are right now, trying to figure out how to keep that baby still surfaced, you know? And so we had thought of scenarios, and we talked to a couple of friends and people about the scenarios of — you know, we have a house in Tennessee, and you know, things like that, that maybe she can go stay there. We can let her stay there. We could help her and all this, and while she`s changing jurisdictions.

Well, by the next day, after doing research throughout the next day, we realized, Oh, she cannot change jurisdictions. It`s illegal. So immediately, we started, you know, telling her, You need to come back, you can`t change jurisdictions.

And that`s when I called Janet Morris (ph) from Tennessee and said, Hey, she`s not coming back. I don`t know what to do. Can you please tell her what her legal rights are and get her back here? And that`s exactly what Janet did. And so the cool thing about that is our computer will corroborate that entire story.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../15/ng.01.html

There is something odd to me that she publically insisted that the police search her computers. She said they would not find anything. Maybe she used public computers to search, or a friend's, or had another computer and then hid it.

 

[kappy50]

There is something odd to me that she publically insisted that the police search her computers. She said they would not find anything. Maybe she used public computers to search, or a friend's, or had another computer and then hid it.

My question would be DID JM ever really contact EJ or is this just a TS blabbering... now I know FBI/LE contacted JM...but based on what...a phone call to EJ or a phone call from EJ ? Or a 3 way call from TS/EJ to JM ??? Just thinking...

 

[Litlred]

There is something odd to me that she publically insisted that the police search her computers. She said they would not find anything. Maybe she used public computers to search, or a friend's, or had another computer and then hid it.

She could have used EJ's computer as well. That way if it was ever found guess who did the searching? The blame would all fall on EJ once again.

 

[kissdegirl]

She could have used EJ's computer as well. That way if it was ever found guess who did the searching? The blame would all fall on EJ once again.

Perfect! Love your mind Litlred. TS has always been conniving and covering her tracks, so of course she would think of this! Wasn't there an interview where she wanted LE to search the public library for EJ's usage? Maybe they went together under EJ's account, or she just wanted to throw them off. Either way, if it was a private computer or the library...it would probably have been under EJ's name so the blame would fall on her.

 

[Litlred]

Perfect! Love your mind Litlred. TS has always been conniving and covering her tracks, so of course she would think of this! Wasn't there an interview where she wanted LE to search the public library for EJ's usage? Maybe they went together under EJ's account, or she just wanted to throw them off. Either way, if it was a private computer or the library...it would probably have been under EJ's name so the blame would fall on her.

Your right they could have gone to the library together but used EJ's account.
I wonder whose idea it was to get rid of EJ's computer. EJ seemed pretty hooked on her computer. I bet it was harder for her to part with it than with Gabriel. I'm hoping LE found out the truth of what she did with the computer. I saw an ad from a person looking to buy a GPS around the time EJ was going to take off and the same person was then selling a lap top a month later in January. I think I read something where TPS said EJ sold her laptop. I will have to find out where I saw that.

 

[kissdegirl]

Your right they could have gone to the library together but used EJ's account.
I wonder whose idea it was to get rid of EJ's computer. EJ seemed pretty hooked on her computer. I bet it was harder for her to part with it than with Gabriel. I'm hoping LE found out the truth of what she did with the computer. I saw an ad from a person looking to buy a GPS around the time EJ was going to take off and the same person was then selling a lap top a month later in January. I think I read something where TPS said EJ sold her laptop. I will have to find out where I saw that.

Absolutely, and turn it in to LE.

 

[noopy]

If EJ has been telling the full truth about everything now...I have some issues still.

1. What did she do with her laptop so LE can search for clues.
2. WHere and when did she buy her disposable phones. They could then get the phone numbers and records for them.
3. Composite sketch of couple and are they comparing it to TS's friends on Facebook.
4. WHo the HG is.
5. What did the car seat look like that G was picked up in.
6. What did she do after the couple left with G...DId she look away from them. There is only one parking lot.
7. Was the couple wearing any identifiable jewlery, ie..wedding rings.
8. DId the couple have an accent.
9. How did G react toward them...Was he scared, or did it seem like he knew them.
10. Did Ej give her phone to them and have the locations of where it pinged been checked for people stopping that fit that MO.

Great list... IMO, she has not answered those questions truthfully, if at all (esp 1-4). Otherwise, we wouldn't be at a dead end right now.

 

[kappy50]

In reading TS's statement to LE, I saw a sentence that struck me odd..In the Probable Cause section there was a mention that TS researched the topic of adult adoption in hopes to adopting EJ and GB. WHY adopt EJ ????

 

[DairyGirl]

In reading TS's statement to LE, I saw a sentence that struck me odd..In the Probable Cause section there was a mention that TS researched the topic of adult adoption in hopes to adopting EJ and GB. WHY adopt EJ ????

To get her baby! With EJ as her daughter then Gabriel would be her grandson and look how easy it was for them to adopt Jack's granddaughter.

 

[kappy50]

First off, I want to thank Bean E for all the work she did on the NG thread for us to follow. I know there was a lot of time and effort put into this...I am reading over the NG transcripts that B..provided for us. Post # 28 and 29 to me are compelling...Post # 28 staes the Smith basically had to beg for anything, even a bottle..and the rest of what JS said, made no sense to me att all...Post # 29...Now Tammie has to go to a quiet place "The BABY'S ROOM"...now is that room H's and she's sharing it with GB...where she state "And I'm actually in the baby's room and all HIS STUFF was put in the crib here "...and then goes on to talk about a new car seat...but it's possible she thought LM was going to knuckle under their demands and she put the cart before the horse so to speak...I just find this all very odd...Did they set up a nursery in the 9 days GB was there, or was this nursery in place already...not necessarily for GB...maybe too much Lifetime I watch where you see these desperate mothers who have nurseries set up for years waiting on that one mment....

 

[kappy50]

Tammie needs to read these NG transcripts...there is so much in there is is telling...not good for TS/JS and what's crazy about it, this information comes from their mouths. Curious if information such as this that is public knowledge, could it be used against her in court ??? If so, she's in big trouble...

 

[MO3Bcares]

Jailhouse phone call released May 4, 2010:

Elizabeth: Yeah you set it all up they were your friends.
Tammi: No they weren't! Then what's their names if they're my friends?
Elizabeth: I don't know you set it all up in San Antonio.
Tammi: I talked about San Antonio? Elizabeth I don't know anyone in San Antonio, they already did the research and found I don't know anyone in San Antonio. There are no dots that connect me to you in San Antonio.
Elizabeth: Then it was Jack's friends like you said.

Jack on Nancy Grace:

JACK SMITH: … but we have — we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and — radio and telephone stations there.
:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

 

[kappy50]

Based on what AZ has said, that this case could go on for a year and the fact TS could get 2-7.5 years....why would she scarifice her family for all that. I do believe she is the
3rd party, because everything TS does, she thinks it's not illegal. But why not fess up, make things somewhat better for herself possibly and help us locate GB.

 

[kappy50]

rut- ro...based on what AZ just said, that TS's public statements could come into play, and JS could be called as a witness...I would have to believe they might be in a whole heap of trouble!!!