TN - Coy Hundley, 38, shot to death, Alcoa, 7 Oct 2003

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Honestly, I can't answer that question. I guess it would depend on the circumstances and what I knew.

I'd be going to the police every time. Now, if they didn't act - then there would be trouble - but not before letting the police and the justice system handle it.

Also - the reports aren't being completely clear, but did this mother know for awhile before doing something? It was the son and the daughter, and it sounded ongoing. Her first response is to confront him (I wouldn't do that), and to kill him later because he laughed??? What was she planning to do if he apologized or denied it? Just let it go? You need to contact the police every time, even if they are apologetic, even if they say it will never happen again, even if they are never going to see your children again - because there are other children out there who don't deserve to be victimized until the parent finally reports this sicko to the police. And don't warn them before contacting the police, it just gives them time to get their story together, to get rid of incriminating evidence.

I don't think pedophiles have any rights to wander freely, but this mother's actions seem out of place to me. If you are going to kill him - kill him - don't confront him and only get mad because he doesn't respond like you wanted. But better still, report him to the police, and let them do their job. Don't put yourself and your children through all kinds of hell unless it's neccessary, unless the police fail.

 

[mysteriew]

You make some good points Details. But I don't know......I am pretty impulsive.
If my young kid came to me crying and told me about being raped, I don't know that I would be thinking rationally.

 

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You make some good points Details. But I don't know......I am pretty impulsive.
If my young kid came to me crying and told me about being raped, I don't know that I would be thinking rationally.

You wouldn't be - none of us would be - but that's one more reason that a 3rd party - the law - is a necessity.

 

[Yeah me]

How can we as parents trust the justice system after Jessica, Dylan and Shasta and other children that have been killed/raped by repeat offenders? I don't blame the woman for taking things into her own hands after the laughed in her face.

 

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How can we as parents trust the justice system after Jessica, Dylan and Shasta and other children that have been killed/raped by repeat offenders? I don't blame the woman for taking things into her own hands after the laughed in her face.

How can we trust children after they have lied, ruined the lives of innocent men?

Repeat offenders is a problem that is being solved. Vigilante parents will make a lot of mistakes - a huge number of them, harming the children they were going to protect. There is no 100% perfect solution, and a lot has been learned in this very short period of time since child molestation began to be considered a crime not all that long ago.

What I really don't see though, is what this woman thought she was going to do if he hadn't laughed in her face. That's what gets me. Was she ready to just let it go if she got a contrite apology? What was she going to do next? Kill him no matter what? Let him off if he apologized? Or just giving him warning she was going to the police, and he should hide all of his child *advertiser censored*. That's where the laughed in her face bit makes me really wonder. Almost like that's more of an insult than molesting both of her kids!

 

[SadieMae]

How can we trust children after they have lied, ruined the lives of innocent men?

Repeat offenders is a problem that is being solved. Vigilante parents will make a lot of mistakes - a huge number of them, harming the children they were going to protect. There is no 100% perfect solution, and a lot has been learned in this very short period of time since child molestation began to be considered a crime not all that long ago.

What I really don't see though, is what this woman thought she was going to do if he hadn't laughed in her face. That's what gets me. Was she ready to just let it go if she got a contrite apology? What was she going to do next? Kill him no matter what? Let him off if he apologized? Or just giving him warning she was going to the police, and he should hide all of his child *advertiser censored*. That's where the laughed in her face bit makes me really wonder. Almost like that's more of an insult than molesting both of her kids!

If he was innocent, why did he laugh at her and ask her what she was going to do about it. Seems an innocent person would ask her what she was talking about, offer to go with her to the police for them to question her kids, ask to take a lie detector test. Why didn't he offer to do anything to show her he was innocent of the accusation?

 

[Details]

I remember the Akiki and McMartin preschool cases. At the start, it was beyond obvious they had done it - lots of kids, same type of story - no doubt. One kid's word should be believed, and when there were a bunch of them, why even bother with the trial! They were monsters, good thing they were in jail or someone would take them out.

Then the rest of the story came out - oops! They're innocent - factually, unquestionably. Still, some few people and some of the parents could not accept being so far wrong, and tried to ignore the evidence that proved the accused factually innocent. I can't imagine that their lives ever went back to normal, with those people and those few parents potentially able to turn up any time to kill them for something they never did.

Dale Akiki in particular I remember - at first it was part of the shocking story - a wonderful guy, long history of selfless giving at church and of his time to children, even when he himself had very little (poor guy was malformed, ugly and very weird looking) - how did he become, how did he hide for so long the child molestation and abuse? Then, when he was proven innocent - that very giving person was the one that had been falsely accused, had his life ruined for a psychologist's error.

Had Dale's 'victims' parents gone and killed him, instead of calling the police...

 

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If he was innocent, why did he laugh at her and ask her what she was going to do about it. Seems an innocent person would ask her what she was talking about, offer to go with her to the police for them to question her kids, ask to take a lie detector test. Why didn't he offer to do anything to show her he was innocent of the accusation?

I can imagine several scenarios... but the point is, that laugh is not an admission of guilt. Wouldn't hold up in court, although the kids stories probably would.

Other hypothetical reasons for a laugh and attitude - he thought the accusation ridiculous and absurd; he just reacted out of shock at being accused of such a horrible thing; or perhaps she has a history we don't know about of making false accusations, scamming money.

He probably did do it. But still, the police should have been given first crack at him. If she'd done that, he'd be headed to jail for a long time, she'd be free and able to help her children recover. The 'laugh' thing is just so odd - why did that make a difference? A repentant pedophile or a contemptuous pedophile is still a pedophile. What he said could have made no difference at all.

 

[CyberLaw]

Michael Jackson would be in a grave if the mother of his "alleged" victim did what this women did to this "alleged criminal".

But Michael was found "innocent" in a court of law, even though I feel he was guilty.

But innocent or guilty would not factor into this scene. He would be murdered ragardless before a determination could be made on evidence, credability of the story, physical evidence, DNA, etc.

Has anyone every had anything that was said to them that was utterly fantastical and absurd. My first reaction would be to laugh, as I would never have done this.

What I find interesting: Both kids "claim" that this man abused them. A boy and a girl..........

Children do make up stories for whatever reason in their mind that they do so.

I have yet to read any physical finding that these children were harmed. I have only read that they told their version of the story in court. But there are always two sides to every story, but the other side is dead.

Maybe this women should have taken her children to a hospital for treatment and conclusive evidence before she shot this man.

 

[Amraann]

If someone harmed my child I would kill them PERIOD.


The flip side is that many mothers do not believe their children and these dirtballs roam free to harm others. Or courts minimize the damage and serve out laughable sentences.
A child molestor needs to never see the light of day again.

The fact is I would have absolutley no problem killing some dirtball who would harm a child. If it meant I went to prison myself then so be it.

If someone harmed my child they had better hope the police do get to them first.
I am not going to justify myself by debating the "right or wrong" of it
It just is.

 

[Gozgals]

If someone harmed my child I would kill them PERIOD.


The flip side is that many mothers do not believe their children and these dirtballs roam free to harm others. Or courts minimize the damage and serve out laughable sentences.
A child molestor needs to never see the light of day again.

The fact is I would have absolutley no problem killing some dirtball who would harm a child. If it meant I went to prison myself then so be it.

If someone harmed my child they had better hope the police do get to them first.
I am not going to justify myself by debating the "right or wrong" of it
It just is.

This debate could go on forever and......

As Jeana said: It would depend on the circumstances if the police were called, and to note a few innocent people in a crowd of bad apples is not saying much in our society today.

It took years for society to listen to our CHILDREN SPEAK UP. It is an outrage for parents to not LISTEN TO OUR CHILDREN SPEAK. Children normally do not lie when it comes to accusations as such in regard to rape, molestation, etc.

Always hear your children's thoughts. The research is out there. Many have come to the forefront of society now and are speaking up of the horrors they have endured as children while their family members stood by and let abuse happen, (especially their mothers). Note: I have not been a victim of sexual abuse but I did do some volunteer work at an abuse shelter and heard the screams of mothers when talking about the sexual abuse boyfriends, relatives did to their children.

It breaks ones heart what they must endure, the children and the parents that step up. The debate about the few innocents is usually not the concern of those that want to protect the child.

As many stated: It is the circumstances that allow the parent in charge to make the decision. I'm sure their is much more to this story.

I admire men like Mark Lunsford, J. Walsh,the women who lost children, and all the other advocates who were able to endure the heartache they were dealt and turn that around. These are personal decisions that one must make.

I forget the woman's name years ago whose son was about to testify against the molester when all the boys were scared, and when he was just ABOUT TO TESTIFY-- and put the scum away for abuse, he sneered at the child in court. She shot him and did prison time. Where was the justice then?

This is my opinion. Everyone is capable of making their own. *And I have known one person wrongly accused of molesting a child. Somehow, the system worked that out too.

Gozgals

 

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*And I have known one person wrongly accused of molesting a child. Somehow, the system worked that out too.

Gozgals

He'd be dead now by the rules several people here say they would follow. I do think his life is important - worth calling the police and acting only if they do not rather than just pulling a gun right off. Dale Akiki's life was important. And these aren't the only cases. I'd be ready to kill to protect my child too - who wouldn't? But death is permanent, and children can make mistakes - not the least of which is fingering the wrong person when they are too afraid of their molester to admit who actually did it. That has happened before too.

 

[Bobbisangel]

The mom evidentally knew the rapist. Don't know whether he was an ex-brother-law or what but he was family..sounds like on the little girl's father's side of the family. Someone had trusted him around the kids if he had been molesting the little boy for some time. The mother would know something about this guy. It would make matters even worse if he had always acted like a "real nice guy" and then mom found out he is a pervert.

If your daughter is raped you should be able to tell. She was probably bleeding because rape is different than touching. Mom may have checked her over or taken her to the doctor. Do we know if the police were ever contacted?

I think that the pervert laughing and asking the mom "what are YOU going to do about it" was the last straw. It was like telling her "ya, I raped your kid and there isn't a thing that you can do about it!" She showed him just what she could do about it. Can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing.

Until the lawmakers are willing to toughen up on violent sex offenders we are going to see more of this vigilante justice. People are sick and tired of Level 3's being let out of prison only to rape..molest..sodomize..murder. They are supposed to register but right now we have 16 Level 3's and 28 Level 2's running around...unregistered and LE/parole officers don't have a clue where
they are. These people are supposed to be supervised...excuse me while I die laughing The county that I live in isn't all that big. The system isn't working when it comes to keeping our children safe and I don't think the majority of the congressmen/senators give a darn. They are the ones who have to pass new laws about these sick perverts. We need to make them REAL AWARE that we expect more and that they are elected officials and can be replaced.

 

[SadieMae]

If someone harmed my child I would kill them PERIOD.


The flip side is that many mothers do not believe their children and these dirtballs roam free to harm others. Or courts minimize the damage and serve out laughable sentences.
A child molestor needs to never see the light of day again.

The fact is I would have absolutley no problem killing some dirtball who would harm a child. If it meant I went to prison myself then so be it.

If someone harmed my child they had better hope the police do get to them first.
I am not going to justify myself by debating the "right or wrong" of it
It just is.

If my child told me anything, I'm in tune enough to them to know when they are lying. A mother just knows that. You're right Amraann, some chose not to believe their kids, but that ain't me either, and like you he's a lucky SOB to have the cops pick him up before I get to him. When it comes to my kids I have no fear. I agree with Jeanna, I'll go as low as I need to. Don't have a problem doing that.

 

[tn_price]

http://www.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4042058

Unfortunately they have found her guilty of voluntary manslaughter. Personally I hope at the sentencing they suspend the sentence.

 

[PaperDoll]

Cunningham now faces a sentence of 3 to 6 years in prison with the possibility of probation.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Cunningham now faces a sentence of 3 to 6 years in prison with the possibility of probation.

Well, a person usually serves 1/3 of their sentence so she will be out in no time. Well worth it....IMO. I'll bet she agrees too. One less pervert to damage children. Be great if all she got was probation though.

 

[CyberLaw]

So you wonder why all the criminals are out on the street and not in jail.

Let me see - they only serve 1/3 of their sentence which is 33% and then they are let go out of jail on the streets.

Gee I wonder why there are so many repeat criminals in the USA.........

 

[mysteriew]

A mother charged in the shooting death of a man she said raped her young daughter was sentenced to four years in prison today.

Authorities say Kimberly Cunningham must serve nearly a third of the sentence before being eligible for parole, The Knoxville News Sentinel reports.

Her attorney Bruce Poston told Blount County Circuit Court Judge D. Kelly Thomas that he would appeal the sentence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543706/posts

 

[KatherineQ]

I feel like there's another side to this story. (Maybe not, though, sometimes stories are beyond belief).

The prosecutor seems to be really going after the mother, which doesn't seem to happen in cases like this. Secondly, for one man to abuse BOTH a young boy AND a young girl is very unusual. VERY unusual.

I think there's more to this story than is being reported here in the media.