TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren, 44, Signal Mountain, 30 April 2011 - #13

[Shelby1]

The Jeep had extensive rear end damage and very little front end damage... in fact I was surprised to read on page 11 that the front headlights / turn signals were completely intact - no broken glass/plastic, unbroken filaments.

That surprised the heck out of me, too.

 

[Emeralgem]

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This would have been a great question--it's so puzzling, because didn't MP say she was headed back to the lake? Is that road on the way to the lake?

Yes, he did, but he also claimed he did not speak with her or see her on the 30th...
Question I have is.... How did he and the children text her and how did she tell them she was headed to the Lake House IF she had been in a tragic accident and was killed instantly?
In regards to your question concerning East Brow Rd...


No, East Brow is not headed toward the Lake House unless she was planning to take the "W" Road down the mtn to Mountain Creek Road, then bear right and go several blocks and take a left on Signal Mtn Blvd.... Signal Mtn Blvd would take her to I-27 which would take her to I-24...And then to the I-24/1-59 split.. I would think she would have gone down the front of the mtn. It would be quicker..

Another thing I noticed... Someone has now changed the time she supposedly left her residence.. The time is different to what SB originally stated.. And the time for him arriving home has changed too...
All stinks to high heaven to me especially IF he is claiming he was at a boutique with his mother at North Shore...JMHO

 

[Snowbunny]

I think it is really sad that MP thought it was necessary to make AD out as a villain in his interview. Out of everybody that knew Gail, AD stood by her friend and fought with all she had to find her. MP didn't show any compassion whatsoever towards Gail being gone in his interview. It was all about him, when in fact it should have been about poor Gail and her children. I find it hard to believe anyone is sincere who smiles when they're talking about a tragedy such as this. Poor Gail! My heart goes out to her children. Its not going to be easy for those littleones growing up without their mom.

 

[Columbo]

I think it is really sad that MP thought it was necessary to make AD out as a villain in his interview. Out of everybody that knew Gail, AD stood by her friend and fought with all she had to find her. MP didn't show any compassion whatsoever towards Gail being gone in his interview. It was all about him, when in fact it should have been about poor Gail and her children. I find it hard to believe anyone is sincere who smiles when they're talking about a tragedy such as this. Poor Gail! My heart goes out to her children. Its not going to be easy for those littleones growing up without their mom.

And if, as he said, they knew who all her real best friends were, and they were in California, Ohio and NY--where were they during the past 8 months? Arlene is the only one who stepped up to the plate. It sounds like she was the only real friend Gail had in the local area--and not even that local, if Arlene lived in Alabama.

And I agree, Snowbunny, what was all that smiling about?

 

[Columbo]

Yes, he did, but he also claimed he did not speak with her or see her on the 30th...
Question I have is.... How did he and the children text her and how did she tell them she was headed to the Lake House IF she had been in a tragic accident and was killed instantly?
In regards to your question concerning East Brow Rd...


No, East Brow is not headed toward the Lake House unless she was planning to take the "W" Road down the mtn to Mountain Creek Road, then bear right and go several blocks and take a left on Signal Mtn Blvd.... Signal Mtn Blvd would take her to I-27 which would take her to I-24...And then to the I-24/1-59 split.. I would think she would have gone down the front of the mtn. It would be quicker..

Another thing I noticed... Someone has now changed the time she supposedly left her residence.. The time is different to what SB originally stated.. And the time for him arriving home has changed too...
All stinks to high heaven to me especially IF he is claiming he was at a boutique with his mother at North Shore...JMHO

Thanks, Emeralgem. When it happened he was saying he assumed she was heading back to the lake. Now suddenly it's a fact, she told them where she was going via phone or text? I agree, how could she have done that? Wouldn't there be a cell phone record if she had called or texted them?

It sounds like the route she was on would have been an out-of- the-way route to get to the lake.

You know what bugged me about that interview? I felt like he kept holding up the kids as a way to get sympathy and show what a great guy he is:sick:. Oh, it's all about the kids, etc. Also how he kept talking to them about "goals". A way to try to distance them from their emotions or grief about their mother, since he had no love for her anyway. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a good way to help kids move forward. ??

And what is this carp about "my psyche the past 8 months is that she was taking a break". That is meaningless blather. His psyche? :waitasec:

 

[Emeralgem]

And if, as he said, they knew who all her real best friends were, and they were in California, Ohio and NY--where were they during the past 8 months? Arlene is the only one who stepped up to the plate. It sounds like she was the only real friend Gail had in the local area--and not even that local, if Arlene lived in GA.

I think Arlene lives in Alabama..JMHO

 

[Columbo]

I think Arlene lives in Alabama..JMHO

I'm sorry, that is right. :blushing:

 

[ThoughtFox]

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This would have been a great question--it's so puzzling, because didn't MP say she was headed back to the lake? Is that road on the way to the lake?

No, the lake is in Alabama and that road wouldn't have anything to do with it. Why would she have driven four hours back with kids and dogs and then turned around and headed four hours back to Alabama without even telling the kids? :waitasec:

All he says is that the kids thought Gail went out to call someone - a cousin named Sherry. MP is the one who said he told them she must have gone back to the Lake House.

Several times during that interview I thought he was being confusing on purpose. His timeline for the 911 calls doesn't make much sense.

Another thing in that interview is that he repeats over and over that he was "transparent" with the kids. Yet he admits he let them think she was just taking some kind of vacation away from them at the Lake House. Is that really honest?

Contradicting himself, he also says he let them read everything in the newspapers and even the court filings, and that he let them decide everything they were going to say to the press. Really? The kids were the reason he let his lawyer called their mother "F----- up" in the Chattanoogan? Um, I don't think so.

 

[Columbo]

I didn't understand how he wasn't even at the house when the 911 calls were made, according to him. Isn't that what he claims in the interview, or did I misunderstand? That doesn't sound right to me at all.

Why would she have to leave home to call her cousin? That makes no sense, either.

 

[ThoughtFox]

And if, as he said, they knew who all her real best friends were, and they were in California, Ohio and NY--where were they during the past 8 months? Arlene is the only one who stepped up to the plate. It sounds like she was the only real friend Gail had in the local area--and not even that local, if Arlene lived in Alabama.

And I agree, Snowbunny, what was all that smiling about?

He contradicted himself about the best friends, too. He says that he knew who her best friends were, but later he says he had to spend time researching them by looking through old yearbooks for clues. :crazy:

To slam Arlene and say she was never a friend makes me wonder what his definition of a friend really is.

I noticed not once did it occur to him that maybe he was supposed to have been Gail's best friend. When a husband is finished with you and moves on to someone else, it's only natural for a woman to seek out people who care. He can mock Arlene all he wants to, but she was one of the first people who realized Gail was in trouble. He admits he had no clue that anything was wrong with a wife suddenly disappearing for days at a time without any messages. I just don't buy that it was typical for her to do that. He is the only source of that nonsense. Otherwise why would her friend and her sister be alarmed?

 

[ThoughtFox]

I didn't understand how he wasn't even at the house when the 911 calls were made, according to him. Isn't that what he claims in the interview, or did I misunderstand? That doesn't sound right to me at all.

Yep, that's what he said! :waitasec:

 

[Emeralgem]

No, the lake is in Alabama and that road wouldn't have anything to do with it. Why would she have driven four hours back with kids and dogs and then turned around and headed four hours back to Alabama without even telling the kids? :waitasec:

All he says is that the kids thought Gail went out to call someone - a cousin named Sherry. MP is the one who said he told them she must have gone back to the Lake House.

Several times during that interview I thought he was being confusing on purpose. His timeline for the 911 calls doesn't make much sense.

Another thing in that interview is that he repeats over and over that he was "transparent" with the kids. Yet he admits he let them think she was just taking some kind of vacation away from them at the Lake House. Is that really honest?

Contradicting himself, he also says he let them read everything in the newspapers and even the court filings, and that he let them decide everything they were going to say to the press. Really? The kids were the reason he let his lawyer called their mother "F----- up" in the Chattanoogan? Um, I don't think so.

I noticed quite a few contradictions...JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

I love the part where he is claiming he is honking his horn and saying... Hey, I'm home...JMHO..

 

[Columbo]

No, the lake is in Alabama and that road wouldn't have anything to do with it. Why would she have driven four hours back with kids and dogs and then turned around and headed four hours back to Alabama without even telling the kids? :waitasec:

All he says is that the kids thought Gail went out to call someone - a cousin named Sherry. MP is the one who said he told them she must have gone back to the Lake House.

Several times during that interview I thought he was being confusing on purpose. His timeline for the 911 calls doesn't make much sense.

Another thing in that interview is that he repeats over and over that he was "transparent" with the kids. Yet he admits he let them think she was just taking some kind of vacation away from them at the Lake House. Is that really honest?

Contradicting himself, he also says he let them read everything in the newspapers and even the court filings, and that he let them decide everything they were going to say to the press. Really? The kids were the reason he let his lawyer called their mother "F----- up" in the Chattanoogan? Um, I don't think so.

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Great points, ThoughtFox. Thank you !!! :clap::clap::clap:

I guess he thinks he's fooling someone...those poor kids...

 

[Elley Mae]

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This would have been a great question--it's so puzzling, because didn't MP say she was headed back to the lake? Is that road on the way to the lake?

I did a directions on google maps if she went the way of the W road it is 6.2 miles (17 minutes), if she went by way of the signal mountain rd it is 6.1 miles 14 minutes.If she went be way of Taft HWY (127) it is 6.0 11 minutes.

all are from the residence to shufords smokehouse on 127

 

[Emeralgem]

No, the lake is in Alabama and that road wouldn't have anything to do with it. Why would she have driven four hours back with kids and dogs and then turned around and headed four hours back to Alabama without even telling the kids? :waitasec:

All he says is that the kids thought Gail went out to call someone - a cousin named Sherry. MP is the one who said he told them she must have gone back to the Lake House.

Several times during that interview I thought he was being confusing on purpose. His timeline for the 911 calls doesn't make much sense.

Another thing in that interview is that he repeats over and over that he was "transparent" with the kids. Yet he admits he let them think she was just taking some kind of vacation away from them at the Lake House. Is that really honest?

Contradicting himself, he also says he let them read everything in the newspapers and even the court filings, and that he let them decide everything they were going to say to the press. Really? The kids were the reason he let his lawyer called their mother "F----- up" in the Chattanoogan? Um, I don't think so.[/quote ]

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Great points, ThoughtFox. Thank you !!! :clap::clap::clap:

I guess he thinks he's fooling someone...those poor kids...

I'm thinking he better think again..JMHO

 

[Blue Moc]

I'm reading a lot of analysis and criticism of MP's interview based on responses (or lack there-of) and body language. But the question I have for many of you who are being critical is simply is there any answer he could have given that would have satisfied you and not drawn your ire? Please understand, I'm not intending this to be combative or as a criticism of how you feel, after all it's been stated frequently that we are all entitled to our opinions. But is seems to me that if he'd expressed more remorse for Gail or stated that he was heartbroken by her loss that many of you would accuse him on being insincere and pandering to public opinion.

My point is that many of you have clearly vilified MP. You have your reasons. But in all fairness I read these criticisms and believe there is nothing he could have said for which you wouldn't have found fault.

 

[Snowbunny]

MP wants everybody to believe he is a good guy and wouldn't hurt anyone, but good guys don't cheat on their wife. He has no compassion towards what he put Gail through. If he was so concerned about her well-being then why didn't he have her committed if she was having some sort of breakdown or was he afraid that it would come out he was the cause of that breakdown?

 

[Blue Moc]

MP wants everybody to believe he is a good guy and wouldn't hurt anyone, but good guys don't cheat on their wife.

I know we are all largely anonymous on this site, so you'll just have to trust me when I say I'd be one of the last persons who would ever defend anyone for cheating on their spouse. It is never excusable. However, if I follow this line of reasoning in reverse what I conclude is this. If you cheat on a spouse you are not a good person (man or woman), and if you are not a good person by this criteria then you are more likely to physically harm your spouse; conversely, if you do not cheat on your spouse you are a good person and likely to not physically harm your spouse.

Now, I'm going to bet that's not what most of us think. But that seems to be the jump that is being made. Because he cheated he is more likely to desire to physically harm Gail. Like most of us I know a number of people who have cheated on a spouse and they are not bad people. They are people who made horrible decisions that often resulted in heartbreaking consequences for themselves and others. But I just don't get the jump we seem so ready to make between cheating and murder. And yes, I know there had been some domestic issues, but none of us know what was truly going on in those situations and I have seen nothing that indicates MP ever physically harmed or threatened Gail.

Again, not trying to be argumentative, just trying to better understand the rationale behind holding on to the theory that MP caused Gail's death in spite of the fact there seems to be no evidence to support it.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I'm reading a lot of analysis and criticism of MP's interview based on responses (or lack there-of) and body language. But the question I have for many of you who are being critical is simply is there any answer he could have given that would have satisfied you and not drawn your ire? Please understand, I'm not intending this to be combative or as a criticism of how you feel, after all it's been stated frequently that we are all entitled to our opinions. But is seems to me that if he'd expressed more remorse for Gail or stated that he was heartbroken by her loss that many of you would accuse him on being insincere and pandering to public opinion.

My point is that many of you have clearly vilified MP. You have your reasons. But in all fairness I read these criticisms and believe there is nothing he could have said for which you wouldn't have found fault.

Look, if you like the guy and you believe whatever he says, I'm happy for you.

I wish I could like him, but after spending hours yesterday transcribing that interview, I just don't see much there to like.

Some of us have followed this case from day one, just like we follow other cases here. We are used to reading about bewildered or confused family members when someone disappears. But MP has never sounded confused or sad or at a loss. At the beginning he only sounded angry about the money - and he even sounded resentful when he talked in the interview about Gail taking "things" out of the house. Well, some of those things belonged to her.

It would have been nice to hear that he was a bit sorry for the fact that they weren't getting along, or to take some responsibility for the break-up of their marriage. But he obviously sees himself as a victim.

He says over and over he wanted to find Gail, and even thanks his "team" for finding her (even though he admits his brother-in-law had to arrange behind his back for Cue to fly over - nice moment of honesty there.)

There are plenty of things he could have said that would have satisfied me personally. But clearly he is never going to say those things. Why was she on that road? What was the real plan that day?

Even the SM police said they found it odd that he didn't call 911 when his wife just drove away and disappeared. He waited for days and admits he waited an hour after Arlene urged him to file a missing persons report. I was not surprised that Gail's sister filed one before her husband did because obviously Gail's well-being was not his priority.

Doesn't that seem a little strange? I'm not vilifying him for anything, just pointing out that it is somewhere out in left field and not really normal.

Having a "Dad" weekend with the kids is one thing, but he and Gail were not even divorced and had not even filed for divorce. They were still married and living in the same house.

And since when does a Dad weekend spill over into the following week? Didn't he have to go back to work? Who was going to take care of the kids if Gail didn't return? He never talks about being nervous or worrying or anything that a normal person would do in that situation.

ETA: Why didn't he believe Arlene when she said that Gail was not at the Lake House? Arlene was in Alabama while he was not. That is hinky. In one part of the interview he questions why Arlene would be looking around one of his houses, then later he admits she was working as his caretaker. Which is true?

There are probably many people who like this guy, but he should realize that a smiling face and some down-home talk doesn't fool everyone.