TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #31

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I think her cousin just means that she doesn't want to hear the details of what happened to Holly because it would be something really hard to listen to, and to process, and it would cause her a lot of pain. WD justs wishes she could protect herself from knowing the truth about Holly's ordeal.

And I doubt she really meant it literally anyway.

I believe one of the hardest things to deal with when a loved one is missing is the “not knowing.”

So for WD (Holly’s cousin) to make the statement that “she doesn’t want to know what happened,” it’s a strange statement in my book. If they found Holly deceased (God forbid) and WD didn’t want to know what happened to Holly’s body, I could understand that.

But while Holly is missing - to not want to know - I just chalk it up to immaturity. But it is an odd statement, regardless of the reasoning behind it.

jmo
 
Before anyone says Gather is not considered MSM, I know but there are 2 reasons why I'm posting this.

1) It shows a picture of Holly with 2 of her friends I hadn't seen before.

2) Chelsea Hoffman states it's not too late for TBI to go back to the property and retrace the steps, bring in scent dogs and a new set of eyes.


While I agree that a new set of eyes would definitely help, I'm not so sure scent dogs would pick up anything after 8 months. What do you all think?

http:///viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980948494

BBM:
Not any kind of tracking or trailing dog. But possibly an HRD dog. :(
 
Bizarre? Clearly you've never been to Texas. People here shoot intruders all the time. A homeowner is rarely prosecuted for killing an intruder here.

Florida and other states have "stand your ground" laws to protect home owners. As I have said before I am not pro gun by any means but I have no problem with a home owner (Clint) capping someone (suspect) who is abducting his sister against her will. Honestly, exactly the reason why a lot of people have guns at home for protection... cases just like this.
 
Blood from a miscarriage is different....and it would've been obvious on her clothes if she was bleeding heavily enough to leave some blood from a miscarriage on the carport. She would've needed medical attention at some point,also, and as a nursing student she'd know that.

I don't think any sort of pregnancy has anything to do with Holly's disappearance.

I think she had a stalker who wanted her....and he took her at the first opportunity.

also you can determine if someone was pregnant by the blood.
 
In these modern times 15 yr. old girls can have a baby and they are not ostracized from the church or the community, so I can't see a 20 yr. old hiding out due to being pregnant, even if it wasn't her boyfriend's baby.
 
Florida and other states have "stand your ground" laws to protect home owners. As I have said before I am not pro gun by any means but I have no problem with a home owner (Clint) capping someone (suspect) who is abducting his sister against her will. Honestly, exactly the reason why a lot of people have guns at home for protection... cases just like this.


Unless.... clint thought he would be shooting at a friend, or someone he KNEW.
 
I dont think with tbi, and fbi searching, that a pregnent girl could be simply hiding out somewhere.

Bethany Anne Decker is still missing so it does happen they vanish without a trace.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/bethany-anne-decker-missing-since-january_n_830588.html


Like I said, the probability that this is what happened to Holly is very low compared to other possibilities but still with limited information all we can do is theorize based on what little information we have. I wouldn't discount it totally. I'm sure TBI have looked at some of these theories.

Remember Easter is when something happened in the investigation. Food for thought.
 
I know this was already discussed but what's interesting about scent dogs is they didn't track Holly into the woods even with the blood found in the car port.

Did she suddenly stop bleeding? Was she put in a vehicle immediately? Did the perp tend to her injuries before they walked into the woods and that's why they were there for 20 minutes? :waitasec:
 
I know this was already discussed but what's interesting about scent dogs is they didn't track Holly into the woods even with the blood found in the car port.

Did she suddenly stop bleeding? Was she put in a vehicle immediately? Did the perp tend to her injuries before they walked into the woods and that's why they were there for 20 minutes? :waitasec:

My theory on this from much earlier: I think what probably happened is that the first responder to arrive on site with a K9 was likely a police K9- and also probably somewhat after other LE and locals and family arrived. That type of dog might possibly have not been trained for extensive scent work, so they waited even longer for a tracking or trailing dog to arrive. And at that point, there was probably scent dispersed everywhere once they hit the 'edge' of the woods. So they probably lost the trail- and/or picked up the trail toward Swan, and assumed a vehicle was involved. (Logical conclusion since there is road access all along there.)
Idk- just my thought on it all.
 
Unless.... clint thought he would be shooting at a friend, or someone he KNEW.

Well there could be two trains of thought here...

If he thought he knew the person and thought it was Drew why bother to call Mom, get the gun, and go out in the yard in the first place.

Mom told him it wasn't Drew, he did get the gun, he did see the blood, he did go out into the yard... but then he didn't do anything.

Either way it doesn't make a lot of sense. But that was not the gist of my initial post about the stand your ground type of laws whcih do allow for a home owner to get a gun and use it
 
I know this was already discussed but what's interesting about scent dogs is they didn't track Holly into the woods even with the blood found in the car port.

Did she suddenly stop bleeding? Was she put in a vehicle immediately? Did the perp tend to her injuries before they walked into the woods and that's why they were there for 20 minutes? :waitasec:

I assume

1) they did not have scent dogs but rather general police 'attack" type dogs from the local K9 patrol unit.

2) there may not have been a scent to follow as the suspect had a vehicle just inside the tree line near the property

3) we do not know for certain dogs did NOT find a trail either. The statement they did only appears once in a rather unclear quote from a talking head on a TV news show.
 
Bethany Anne Decker is still missing so it does happen they vanish without a trace.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/bethany-anne-decker-missing-since-january_n_830588.html


Like I said, the probability that this is what happened to Holly is very low compared to other possibilities but still with limited information all we can do is theorize based on what little information we have. I wouldn't discount it totally. I'm sure TBI have looked at some of these theories.

Remember Easter is when something happened in the investigation. Food for thought.

The thing is yeah she is missing BUT there are a ton of suspicious circumstances around the disappearance. I remember this case from the news and instantly assumed that 1) the husband 2) the b/f or 3) both the husband or b/f or 4) another b/f was somehow involved. Its not hard to see how this woman was in some shady relationships and someone could have killed her.

With Holly we do not have any of that.

It is somewhat hard to find a missing person that quite compares to Holly. In many cases the victim seems to have been 1) drunk and wandering around at night 2) weren't out partying with shady friends, drunk or on drugs 3) were trying to end an abusive marriage with a violent husband, kids etc. 4) were involved in some sort of dangerous or illegal activity like drug dealing 5) had psychological issues 6) were killed by a known offender and recovered fairly quickly 7) were killed by someone who even if not charged was named a POI or suspect or at least who the family said was involved.
 
The thing is yeah she is missing BUT there are a ton of suspicious circumstances around the disappearance. I remember this case from the news and instantly assumed that 1) the husband 2) the b/f or 3) both the husband or b/f or 4) another b/f was somehow involved. Its not hard to see how this woman was in some shady relationships and someone could have killed her.

With Holly we do not have any of that.

It is somewhat hard to find a missing person that quite compares to Holly. In many cases the victim seems to have been 1) drunk and wandering around at night 2) weren't out partying with shady friends, drunk or on drugs 3) were trying to end an abusive marriage with a violent husband, kids etc. 4) were involved in some sort of dangerous or illegal activity like drug dealing 5) had psychological issues 6) were killed by a known offender and recovered fairly quickly 7) were killed by someone who even if not charged was named a POI or suspect or at least who the family said was involved.
The last paragraph of your post caught my attention. It is easy to dismiss background in HB case because there is no background provided. If we take the little we do know, how many of the seven points you provided can we dismiss?
1- HB was abducted at her home in the morning, can toss this one out.
2- She may not have been partying when she disappeared, but we do not know about HB close friendships and relationships, we really have no idea what kind of crazy may have been circling around her life. I do know there were MANY meth labs busted in the search for HB and also 17 registered SO living in the tiny town of parsons (population 2k*) when she went missing. Yikes!
3- HB was not married so would have to change husband to boyfriend. We also have no background on their relationship, but there does not seem to be a history or pattern of abuse between them. There is nothing to rule this angle out except for KB always defending CB and DS and some tv anchors stating that CB and DS have been cleared (TBI retracted their similar statement to nobody has been cleared).
4- HB doesn't seem like somebody who was involved with drugs herself, but we do not know much about the other people that were close to her. There has been speculation that people she was associated with may have been involved in drugs. I do not see anything to rule this angle out, innocent people get caught up in these situations without realizing the potential danger. Happens every day.
5- There is no known history of mental illness with HB, but again we have very little background to go on with this angle. The better question would be does anybody that was close to HB have a history of mental illness.
6- HB is still missing and her case is being "actively investigated", so there is no conclusion to draw from on this.
7- This angle takes time to play out. This is certainly something that happens quite often but in this case everything is so hush-hush that many people just assume there are no POI because nobody has been named. I can safely say to you that there are POI in this case, one even outed himself on several websites to defend himself (IMO his ramblings are at the very least borderline sociopath.) (Please do not ask for any clarification on this, you should be able to find this info very quickly if you check active sites that discuss this case.)
So we could rule out numbers 1, 5 and 6. IMO everything else is still up in the air so to speak, not much to rule it in or out. I still find it very concerning that we are quickly approaching a year since HB went missing and the story is still as confusing, if not more so, than the day she was abducted. Very sad.
 
Sad to say, I have begun to feel foolish to even continue to post on Holly's case, with so little actual information and nothing in the way of updates.
 
Another thing I find unusual about this case is none of her friends, classmates, teachers have come forward to talk about Holly. Her likes, dislikes, what she liked to do, where she liked to go, her grades, her life with Drew, etc etc etc

The only one we heard about was the one who got upset at school. Sorry don't recall her name off the top of my head.

Have any of you seen articles or listened to interviews with her those closest to her besides her family?
 
The last paragraph of your post caught my attention. It is easy to dismiss background in HB case because there is no background provided. If we take the little we do know, how many of the seven points you provided can we dismiss?
1- HB was abducted at her home in the morning, can toss this one out.
2- She may not have been partying when she disappeared, but we do not know about HB close friendships and relationships, we really have no idea what kind of crazy may have been circling around her life. I do know there were MANY meth labs busted in the search for HB and also 17 registered SO living in the tiny town of parsons (population 2k*) when she went missing. Yikes!
3- HB was not married so would have to change husband to boyfriend. We also have no background on their relationship, but there does not seem to be a history or pattern of abuse between them. There is nothing to rule this angle out except for KB always defending CB and DS and some tv anchors stating that CB and DS have been cleared (TBI retracted their similar statement to nobody has been cleared).
4- HB doesn't seem like somebody who was involved with drugs herself, but we do not know much about the other people that were close to her. There has been speculation that people she was associated with may have been involved in drugs. I do not see anything to rule this angle out, innocent people get caught up in these situations without realizing the potential danger. Happens every day.
5- There is no known history of mental illness with HB, but again we have very little background to go on with this angle. The better question would be does anybody that was close to HB have a history of mental illness.
6- HB is still missing and her case is being "actively investigated", so there is no conclusion to draw from on this.
7- This angle takes time to play out. This is certainly something that happens quite often but in this case everything is so hush-hush that many people just assume there are no POI because nobody has been named. I can safely say to you that there are POI in this case, one even outed himself on several websites to defend himself (IMO his ramblings are at the very least borderline sociopath.) (Please do not ask for any clarification on this, you should be able to find this info very quickly if you check active sites that discuss this case.)
So we could rule out numbers 1, 5 and 6. IMO everything else is still up in the air so to speak, not much to rule it in or out. I still find it very concerning that we are quickly approaching a year since HB went missing and the story is still as confusing, if not more so, than the day she was abducted. Very sad.

I would agree with all of the above.

When I made my comments I actually had people in mind for each of the generalizations, becuase people have comapred Holly to them in the past.

For example Lauren Spierer - was last seen drunk, walking around downtown. Her parents and LE have said they think her friends know more than what they are telling. So, while her case is unsolved its quite different than Holly's in that you can see that she was in a dangerous situation when she went missing, and that family and officials have publically commented on potential POIs or persons with knowledge of her disappearance.

Brittany Drexel is another unsolved one but she had snuck off to party at the beach with friends of questionable character. Again her parents and LE have said her "friends" know more than what they have admitted too.

Shelly Mook - compared to Holly but was also involved in a divorce and custody battle. My money is on the ex in this case. Same with Susan Powell and Drew Peterson's missing wife Stacy.

Krista Dittmeyer seems to have been involved in a drug deal gone bad when she went missing and was found murdered.

Whatever happened to Mitrice Richardson she seemed to have a history of psychiatric issues and was, seemingly intoxicated the night she vanished. I know with my biolar that there have been times when my mental state greatly put me in serious jeopardy and grave danger.

Sarah Townsend who vanished and was found dead also seemed to have some issues and committed suicide
 
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