moonriverfarm
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I agree that IS a lot of booze. But the report covers the bar-hopping RS did from 4:30-10:30-- a 6 hour period. And he was a big person and a man besides (biological effects not cultural--alcohol dehydrogenase, fat, etc different from women.)a margarita, two whiskey and Coke drinks, one rum and Coke and two 5% alcoholic seltzer beverages, another rum and coke
and there may have been more at other bars or in a hotel room ...
that's a lot of booze IMO
I agree that IS a lot of booze. But the report covers the bar-hopping RS did from 4:30-10:30-- a 6 hour period. And he was a big person and a man besides (biological effects not cultural--alcohol dehydrogenase, fat, etc different from women.)
The question wasn't did he choose to drink too much (including I expect in the hotel room.) I think investigators do know which bars he went to and I think it's obvious he did drink too much (although I wouldn't count on the autopsy BAL of .228 being 100% accurate after 2 weeks in the water.) BAL also continues to rise after drinking stops.
But there's no evidence he was "over-served" at any bar because he wasn't exhibiting signs of being too intoxicated until he started slurring his words at Luke's & got booted. Even his stepfather and mother said he didn't sound intoxicated when face-timing mom at around 7:30-8. That was slightly more than halfway through his bar-hopping. And according to the published report, by then he'd had 5-6 drinks plus whatever unknown quantity he had at the hotel. And he sounded fine to family. So how could wait staff know he wasn't?
MOO
IMO the family (and some others here) believe that it wasn’t a tragic accident and foul play must’ve been involved. I do feel for them but to me it seems they just can’t accept that Riley was technically at fault for his own death. He over drank and couldn’t make it to a safe place to sleep it off. It is tragic and sad but there’s been no evidence that anyone else was involved. I wish them peace.Why are people still talking about this?
Men go out and drink all the time all over the world and end up dead in the water. My brother's best friend was one of those.
What's the difference here?
Serious question.
IMO the family (and some others here) believe that it wasn’t a tragic accident and foul play must’ve been involved. I do feel for them but to me it seems they just can’t accept that Riley was technically at fault for his own death. He over drank and couldn’t make it to a safe place to sleep it off. It is tragic and sad but there’s been no evidence that anyone else was involved. I wish them peace.
I believe it was an accident. There just hasn’t been any evidence of foul play. Video and witness interviews seem to back this up.
and the frat brothers did nothing wrong IMO
Let a uber blotto brother make his way to the hotel on his own. MOO Its not "wrong" per se, but the "brothers" were not as bonded as I would expect.
Let a uber blotto brother make his way to the hotel on his own. MOO Its not "wrong" per se, but the "brothers" were not as bonded as I would expect.