AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #25

[hollye]

Official Wells Family information website "Find Summer Wells"

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Poll: What do you feel happened to Summer Wells?

Map Courtesy of @skibaboo : Summer Wells, Rogersville TN June 15th 2021 - Google My Maps

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The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation has issued an endangered child alert for a missing 5-year-old from Hawkins County.

Summer Wells is 5 years old and not 4 as was previously reported.

Emergency crews are searching for Summer Wells around Ben Hill Road in the Beech Creek community.

Wells was seen walking away from her home on Ben Hill Road around 7 p.m.

She is 4-feet tall, has blonde hair, and was last seen wearing a pink shirt and gray shorts.

TBI issues endangered child alert for missing Hawkins County 5-year-old | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather

 

[Sillybilly]

Next member to sleuth this family's social media will receive a 1 week Time Out from Websleuths.

It's clear in The Rules. We aren't going to say it again. Zero tolerance.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random. Apologies for the length and the personal anecdote.

Websleuths is first and foremost a true crime discussion forum. Only second to that is that WS is victim friendly. That has NEVER changed, yet there are those who still insinuate or flat-out accuse parents or loved ones of being responsible for a crime.

With regard to the Option 1 and Option 2 hypotheticals that were presented by birdfeeder upthread, I don't believe that post was designed to cast aspersions at the family, but rather to point out that, in their opinion, abduction was more likely than family involvement. It was not intended to be a gateway for others to make up scenarios or start down that non victim friendly path of how family members could be responsible.

We have seen cases where parents remained totally silent about their daughter's disappearance because LE was busy building the case against someone else. We've had cases where a mother couldn't stay silent, and never seemed to say the ‘right thing’; members and even LE were convinced that mom was guilty yet two absolute strangers were ultimately charged with the murder of that woman's precious daughter. We've had surprises we would never have foreseen .. children who have been found after all hope had faded. Each case is unique in its detail and until LE names a POI or suspect, we do not understand why members join Websleuths only to then become averse to posting in accordance with our very basic Victim Friendly policy that covers family members, friends and loved ones.

I can say through personal experience that the pain over the loss of children (different circumstances), while it never goes away, does change somewhat over time. It changes who you are as a person, but what will never change, and what I can still hear today as clearly as if it was yesterday, are the words of those who tried to make me somehow feel responsible for the death of my children. Your words have power. Please choose them carefully.

Our rule has always been that we are victim friendly. As Tricia has said in the past, "The rules are easy to follow on Websleuths. Thousands of people follow the rules every day with no problem."

Please don't respond, but try to keep these thoughts in mind going forward.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Combined Historical Mod Notes:

I get the frustration and the desire for answers. I also understand how emotions are high in Summers case. However, baiting and/or bickering with fellow posters is uncalled for. It gets us no closer to what brought us here and does not advance the conversation.

Please refrain from responding to posts simply to bicker, argue, or bait. If you disagree with a post: scroll and roll, take a break, or at minimum pause and re-read your response before you hit “post reply”. When you feel most compelled to immediately respond, that is a sign you should pause before taking action.

24hr time outs will be issued without added warning for baiting and bickering
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Mod Note:

Nothing has been released by LE stating the parents are POI’s or Suspects at this point. The victim friendly rule remains in full effect. Discussions/observations on what has been stated in interviews is fine. However, please do not point to, or post judgmental comments regarding how a parent looks or appears on video and do not cast veiled accusations of their involvement. Lastly, please refrain from stating you are “sitting on your hands”. That is a veiled accusation/judgement and there is no need to post it.
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Mod Note:

We all know this situation is not pretty. There is a lot of noise around Summer’s disappearance. When discussing the approved interviews, keep it to what is stated in the interviews. We will not tolerate trash talking of parties interviewed or on the periphery of this case. Leniency has been given to align with open discussion of the interview(s) content, but the trash talking is where the line is being drawn.

There will be no further warnings on this topic. Time Outs will be automatic.

Keep it classy and remember your words have power.

Thanks Everyone,
Tiff

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:

The Mod and Admin team acknowledges a lot of information has been communicated via approved sources such as our own Tricia’s WS Channel and Chris’s TIR over the last 48 hours. We would like to offer some guidance around how the information may be discussed within the TOS we commit to uphold at WS.

First and foremost Victim Friendly remains our North Star. Members may reasonably discuss what has been shared by these approved sources, but may not make random accusations, or directly suggest the parents involvement in Summers disappearance solely based on this information. The discussions around the sexual assaults should be anchored only in what has been shared in regards to historical behavior. Added speculation at this time regarding current behavior and connecting it to Summer would be in violation of victim friendly.

We realize this is a balancing act and we are doing our best to balance along with each of you, while behind the curtain. This post is to offer some clarity of where we are today, however that position may be adjusted along the way as new details unfold.

Best Regards,
The Mod and Admin Team

Approved YouTube Videos as of Aug 16, 2021
Attached are links to the YouTube episodes currently approved for discussion in Summer Wells case. An approved episode does not mean the channel is approved for blanket posting. When referencing YouTube content be sure it is from one of the links below. If it is not linked below, do not post it and do not bring discussion of it into the thread. When making a post regarding specific statements within these videos please take the following steps within the post:

1. Include the url link to the YouTube episode
2. Provide the TimeStamp for the statements being referenced

The responsibility to support statements made within the videos rests with the poster of the information being stated as fact.

Blanket approval - Websleuths live with Tricia
All Episodes released on case - Profiling Evil

Episode ONLY Approvals
Unmasked:
Interview with H’s Mom
Interview with Church Friend DD

DutyRon:
Summer Wells false rumors and how it affects the case with special guests on Crime Time with DutyRon (Interview w/ Dr. Butcher)
Summer Wells Search by Midwestern EquuSearch special guest Dave Rader
Summer Wells Search live updates with David Rader from Midwest EquuSearch in Tennessee

Voices Behind the Wall (Interviews with DW):
DW Interview #1
DW Interview #2
DW Interview #3 (Retraces Steps)
DW Interview #4 DW & Sister
DW Interview #5 DW Answers Accusation and Offers New Theory

John Kelly Profiler:
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 1
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 2 Who is Guilty
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 3 Who is the Boogeyman
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

If it’s not on the list above do not post it without prior approval from a mod/admin.

 

[December]

This is an excellent video from John Kelly Profiler. He was an FBI profiler before he retired.

At the beginning he talks about the book he wrote. But, it is relevant to the main topic of the video which is the Summer Wells case.

 

[dacjess]

FYI - All 4 episodes in this series have been approved and added to the list in Post #6 at the beginning of the thread.

John Kelly Profiler:
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 1
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 2 Who is Guilty
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 3 Who is the Boogeyman
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

Hi Tiff,
If someone in an approved post talks about social media or allegations made on social media, are those considered okay to discuss?

 

[155etta]

Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

I listened to #4. When he talks about encapsulation, CW and H's relationship starts to make more sense. MOO.

 

[December]

Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

I listened to #4. When he talks about encapsulation, CW and H's relationship starts to make more sense. MOO.

Yes. I can see them being buddies.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Hi Tiff,
If someone in an approved post talks about social media or allegations made on social media, are those considered okay to discuss?

IF it is stated in the Approved episode by the content producer, it can be stated it was revealed on <insert approved link> that XYZ was stated or occurred. However, it would need stated by the approved source and not something tossed out in the comment chat or by call-in guests. Sleuthing or speculation on it beyond that would not be permitted.

 

[Blue Amethyst]

I am so glad I listened to this. John Kelly just explains so many things and gave me a new insight into the case. I have never been around a family like the Wells.

it is well worth the time to listen to this.

 

[Estelle]

I am so glad I listened to this. John Kelly just explains so many things and gave me a new insight into the case. I have never been around a family like the Wells.

it is well worth the time to listen to this.

John Kelly said that addiction and substance abuse is the most common cause of child abuse and the underlying cause is anger which often turns to rage. It affects a person's maturity level as they lose neurotransmitters. He concluded, "How can you be a good parent if you are strung out?"

 

[Spartygirl]

John Kelly said that addiction and substance abuse is the most common cause of child abuse and the underlying cause is anger which often turns to rage. It affects a person's maturity level as they lose neurotransmitters. He concluded, "How can you be a good parent if you are strung out?"

Well, yeah....I mean...that is common sense also to know this.

I respect JK but I also think that most of us here know this.

I am glad he addressed Summer's missing case though with his professional opinion.

This case is just crazy.

Where is Summer ????????????????

 

[MyBelle]

John Kelly said that addiction and substance abuse is the most common cause of child abuse and the underlying cause is anger which often turns to rage. It affects a person's maturity level as they lose neurotransmitters. He concluded, "How can you be a good parent if you are strung out?"

I found his explanation of how long it takes to regain neurotransmitters to be fascinating. I had no idea.

 

[LietKynes]

John Kelly said that addiction and substance abuse is the most common cause of child abuse and the underlying cause is anger which often turns to rage. It affects a person's maturity level as they lose neurotransmitters. He concluded, "How can you be a good parent if you are strung out?"

bbm
He doesn't mince words.

 

[Knox]

This is an excellent video from John Kelly Profiler. He was an FBI profiler before he retired.

At the beginning he talks about the book he wrote. But, it is relevant to the main topic of the video which is the Summer Wells case.

Does he indicate what he thinks happened to Summer? Looking for the quick answer, thank you.

 

[155etta]

Does he indicate what he thinks happened to Summer? Looking for the quick answer, thank you.

No. But he's sure it is drug related. MOO.

 

[December]

I think a lot of us know some or most of what John Kelly says, but he puts it all together and applies it to the case. It really affected me that he said how dark this case is. I think he is preparing his listeners for some very bad news.

And, i didn't know that after five years of not using a person could start to mature and eventually get to where they should be.

ETA... Listeners, haha, i mean viewers although i just listen to YT a lot.

 

[nao]

Moo ..not seeing this as useful information.. picking apart people's words..dw is 64? I believe...this is not a game..these are real people.. they never had much..
<modsnip - goes into background discussion of approved content provider>
Moo

 

[steeltowngirl]

Moo ..not seeing this as useful information.. picking apart people's words..dw is 74? I believe...this is not a game..these are real people.. they never had much. Moo

I believe DW is 56 years old.