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Is there court on Thursday?
Sorry if this has been covered.
No court on Thursday or Friday
Is there court on Thursday?
Sorry if this has been covered.
Yes, Juan gets recross, and then gets to question Samuels yet again after the jury questions.
Yes, Juan gets recross, and then gets to question Samuels yet again after the jury questions.
are we 100% sure that wasnt jodi? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Juror question! (from me): You insinuated that when someone is lying, their story stays the same and when they are telling the truth the story tends to change as details are added. But wouldn't it stand to reason that if someone were telling the truth, their story would never change, no matter what and no matter who was questioning them?
I question how much impact she'll really have when she's queried on behaviors exhibited by Jodi extremely consistent with an abusive personality. When she's questioned about very common markers in abusers totally missing from Travis' personality. And when she's pushed to the wall over how to explain her seeming willingness to totally dismiss abusive behaviors on the part of the defendant. It is a lot for the jury to get past in order for her to have an impact. And while the entire list may not make it into evidence, this jury has already called Jodi out on controlling behaviors, the hallmark of abusers.
Behaviors consistent with an abusive personality...
Jodi:
Moved to Mesa after their relationship ended - pursuit in a very classical sense.
Slashed the tires on his car - damage to personal property.
Sent a 'warning' email to a prospective girlfriend.
Snooped through his text messages.
Stalked him repeatedly.
In my opinion, very likely cyber stalked him.
Consistently violated boundaries of personal privacy.
Snooped through his online accounts.
Knew his ATM pin # and garage access code.
Dismissed his voiced concerns over them having sex.
Showed evidence of high manipulation through their phone recording.
Isolated Travis in the not so classical sense that because of their sex life, Travis would have been unable to confide the reality of their relationship to many.
Threatened suicide as emotional blackmail.
Behaviors inconsistent with an abusive personality:
Encouraging Jodi to date other people.
Not escalating the relationship to a more serious nature very, very quickly.
No evidence of stalking or harassing Jodi once she moved back to Yreka.
No escalation of violence according to testimony on direct.
No isolation of Jodi - this doesn't mean keeping her from 'his' friends - it means systematically shutting down her every 'outside' resource, sometimes to even include work and family.
No evidence of financial abuse - instead he was lending her money.
Nothing to prove incessant emails, non-stop text messages, or constant phone calls on Travis' part.
No outward evidence of jealousy on Travis' end. Not rising to the level I would expect from an abuser, anyway.
No testimony from friends or family, in court or elsewhere, to indicate an easily triggered temper, impatience, possessiveness, etc.
No proof he circumvented her movements - she didn't live with him and he even lent her his car.
Didn't fly into a rage over a ruined BMW.
Seemingly actively tried to help Jodi on many fronts.
Excellent points made, Brits Kate!.. and IMO they are all spot on as well as they are all glaringly apparent.. lets hope the jury is at the very least making mental notes listing such glaringly obvious facts that indicate that Jodi was the aggressor through and through WRT to the relationship and situations surrounding her and Travis..
Also I wanted to say that IMO even the text messages that the defense actually entered into evidence and cherry picked for dissection of to attempt to show Travis' mean, nasty, and abusive behavior toward Jodi.. IMO even those cherry picked communications from Travis came across as absolutely level headed, diplomatic, and even IMO kindness in such a way that was so undeserving toward Jodi..
Even his statements calling her out on her lies came across as extremely level headed and diplomatic in nature.. IMO even indicating a level of maturity that was way past in light years in comparison to Jodi's.. his saying that he did not want to end up genuinely disliking her as a person and asking that she please not continue with the actions/behaviors that would lead to his coming to dislike her immensely..
i know I'm not at all doing it justice in what I'm attempting to relay about Travis' qualities as a person even when being negatively impacted by such vile individual such as Jodi.. he still handled and spoke to her in a way that his even temper, good nature, and kind soul beamed through his words to her..and again these are THE WORST, MOST NEGATIVE COMMUNICATIONS THAT THE DEFENSE WAS USING..yet IMO even with the defense attempt at twisting Travis' words into abusive threats, the fact that Travis was the complete and total opposite of that attempted portrayal was evident throughout ..
i just sincerely hope that the jury is seeing these truths as well..
I am rewatching the end of JW's attempt to rehabilitate her expert witness. After leading him around by his nose she was able to get him to say certain specific words in an attempt to clean up past errors. But I don't think the jury will suddenly see him as an intelligent, credible Doctor all of a sudden.
He seems like a nice guy,maybe a compassionate counselor. But surely no match for Jodi.
His overall assessment is that she is a meek young lady with no self esteem, and she is not aggressive and is a life long pacifist?
I am rewatching the end of JW's attempt to rehabilitate her expert witness. After leading him around by his nose she was able to get him to say certain specific words in an attempt to clean up past errors. But I don't think the jury will suddenly see him as an intelligent, credible Doctor all of a sudden.
He seems like a nice guy,maybe a compassionate counselor. But surely no match for Jodi.
His overall assessment is that she is a meek young lady with no self esteem, and she is not aggressive and is a life long pacifist?
Average temp in June in Mesa is over 100 degrees. Wearing a hoodie, sweater, anything like that, might draw attention. I don't see her doing that.
Wonder why Nurmi didn't do the questioning?
Clearly JW was in a bad mood today....
She probably wore it during the commission of the crime, then took all her bloody clothes off in the home, tossed them in a plastic bag and changed her clothes/cleaned herself up before leaving the house. MOO
I am rewatching the end of JW's attempt to rehabilitate her expert witness. After leading him around by his nose she was able to get him to say certain specific words in an attempt to clean up past errors. But I don't think the jury will suddenly see him as an intelligent, credible Doctor all of a sudden.
He seems like a nice guy,maybe a compassionate counselor. But surely no match for Jodi.
His overall assessment is that she is a meek young lady with no self esteem, and she is not aggressive and is a life long pacifist?
Yeah, I know I'm in the minority but man I feel bad for Nurmi and Willmott. What a debacle to be thrown into, and just when they thought it couldn't get worse, along comes this dimwitted imbecile, who they thought to be an expert, to further embarrass their professional names. That's got to be rough.