Trial Discussion Thread #45 - 14.07.3, Day 36

[zwiebel]

D has just told judge Nel's questions are 'temporal'. Lecturing again....

 

[PrimeSuspect]

My comment was not aimed at you in any way shape or form.
I was commenting more toward the people who appeared, to me, to be ridiculing Nel's attempts at XE approximately 2 minutes after he started :facepalm:

I doubt they will agree he has done a good job but I totally agree with you on that score.

:highfive:


this is the first witness that's rattled me, like pulling hen's teeth. :run:

 

[zwiebel]

N: I'm just asking. Without knowing his blood pressure, we can't know if he had flight/fight response.

In his answer, I'm sure D just said 'fright' instead of 'fight'. Nel got told off for that.

 

[kaos]

From coming across as an expert in his field and a well spoken gentleman, he's now coming across as a quite angry defensiveness man when his testimony is questioned and very similar to OP when he was on the stand.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Hi Zwiebel!

Vielen Dank für deine heutige Arbeit!

:loveyou:

 

[zwiebel]

Nel lists all the physical responses that witness won't testify about because he couldn't test for them at the time...

Lost my feeds...

 

[kaos]

Oooooh, Nel's getting him to say that OP had full intention of shooting - which is murder.

 

[zwiebel]

Hi Zwiebel!

Vielen Dank für deine heutige Arbeit!

:loveyou:

Danke danke!

D: I suppose if he thought there was an intruder, he would shoot.

 

[kaos]

Nel asking him about the second startle and what it was - as Prof understands it it was closing of the toilet door

 

[zwiebel]

N: As far as you understand, he ided it as closing of the toilet door?

D: Yes

N: That caused a fight response?

D: Whatever that sound was, it created a second acoustic startle response.

 

[DebinGA]

D said OP was holding gun one-handed at shoulder level and not with elbow bent as OP testified?

 

[kaos]

Prof now saying the toilet door sound was an acoustic sound that created the second startle.

 

[jay-jay]

The guy is nuts (or the DT are for allowing him to) giving evidence on behalf of OP .. he's going to be the nail in his coffin .. :scared: .. what he is saying is 'premeditated' (in OP's intruder version) :facepalm:


Great for the PT though :-D

 

[zwiebel]

N: He acted on the sound?

D: Yes.

N: What did that startle cause him to do?

D: I do not recall..memory fuzzy...he was looking between open window and door, there- I need to read the record again.

 

[kaos]

Your feed's back now zwiebel so I'll stop pretending to give a good account of what's going on

 

[zwiebel]

N: ...but accused is still clealry thinking, evaluating...

D: Milady, question unfair. I cannot say who was in the bathroom...not my expertise...

N: You must be able to tell court how it affected him?

 

[jay-jay]

If he had any sense he would be saying he cannot answer because he wasn't there, and stick to it ..

 

[kaos]

D said OP was holding gun one-handed at shoulder level and not with elbow bent as OP testified?

OP appeared to be nodding as Nel was describing the gun position.

 

[zwiebel]

Bless you, whoever's sneezing in court.

N: You can't tell if he looked out of the window?

D: I can't say about sequence of events...it's not fair...

 

[alioop]

I'm feeling for Roux. Surely he is thinking how hard is it to have one non debarcle of a witness. Just one!