GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #3

[randomtexan]

I didn't realize that. Kids are fairly simple. I had a hierarchy of friends. If Mike P. wasn't home, I'd try Mike D. Any idea which friend might have been next on her list?

No idea.

 

[ahintexas]

So basically 7:33 is not the time of death but time she was declared to be dead by EMTs. Which means she could have been dead for quite some time prior to being found.

The ME will conclude a time of death.

 

[randomtexan]

She was very intelligent. <modsnip> The members of her household are also very intelligent. One of the men is an aeronautical engineer and graduated from MIT. <modsnip>

I worry now, because my children may not consider parents of other children that they have seen before "strangers". I will be having that discussion with them tonight..

 

[floridamomma]

...maybe part of the crime was the fun of watching the other kids find her?

:twocents:

sbm

I've wondered, was the location intentional so that the perp would know when she was found, and would be right there in the middle of everything as far as knowing how the investigation was going... like people who help search, etc. they do it so they feel they are "in the loop".

 

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[epiphany]

I do not believe it was some random drive by. How could the person do this act if there was not a place to do it? No seeing, no hearing by anyone else.

Unless LE truly knows who did this, it is totally irresponsible to not put info out there.

Somer Thompson in Florida had tons of FBI, ICE, LE, dogs working the case.

What solved it? The former roommates parents driving past the site and saying, " Hey wait a minute. What about the puke that lives right there?"

I do not know if LE would have ever found the puke without the public.

I believe the murder had to have taken place very close to her own home assuming she was last seen in close proximity to her own home, and the proximity of where her body was found in relation to her residence/neighborhood.

1. Indoor building, garage, a residence

2. Inside a vehicle (if "outdoors")

 

[epiphany]

Perp appears to have had everything handy: tape, bags, belt or strap and tarp.

These things ^^ likely stored in a vehicle or in garage.

 

[trigger]

I do not believe it was some random drive by. How could the person do this act if there was not a place to do it? No seeing, no hearing by anyone else.

Unless LE truly knows who did this, it is totally irresponsible to not put info out there.

Somer Thompson in Florida had tons of FBI, ICE, LE, dogs working the case.

What solved it? The former roommates parents driving past the site and saying, " Hey wait a minute. What about the puke that lives right there?"

I do not know if LE would have ever found the puke without the public.

Yes I remember Somers case. LE constantly gave news conferences and said to the public-if they notice certain changes in people's behavior, like "an unnatural interest" in the girl's case, or hiding their vehicle in a shed or giving it away. And if they left the area, haven't showed up for work...Etc.

Nothing from LE about the vehicle. Nothing about what they should look for. Its a disgrace, IMO..

Oh and I forgot to post, Somer went up to his front door to pet his dog.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I can't remember how much info LE had given out by this point in JR's case, but as time went on they definitely kept the public updated, including developments such as her backpack being found (although arguably that couldn't have been keep secret), and they released the info about the cross. (It also seemed like there was a veritable wave of abduction attempts in the weeks to follow--seemed like a very scary time to live there.)

 

[SapphireSteel]

Perp appears to have had everything handy: tape, bags, belt or strap and tarp.

These things ^^ likely stored in a vehicle or in garage.

Or, a workplace.

A friend of mine runs his welding business out of a huge shed in his mother's backyard.

Tarp = painter, plasterer, boater, camper...

Black rubbish bag (ripped IMO) = someone who doesn't take the rubbish out very often.

Wife or mother or staff to do it for him?

And why a BELT to tie the tarp? Belts can be traced...amateur, first timer, no prison record.

All thinking out loud.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Does anyone know what her hands and feet were bound with?

 

[ArianeEmory]

Does anyone know what her hands and feet were bound with?

Only speculation. We've seen both tied and taped, with I think taped being claimed with more frequency. LE hasn't divulged.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Only speculation. We've seen both tied and taped, with I think taped being claimed with more frequency. LE hasn't divulged.

Thanks AE. :seeya:

It must be important then. If the perp is as disorganised as I think he is, there will be DNA/fingerprints everywhere.

Poor little girl.

 

[Mitsana]

If the original source of these MSM reports is the 911 call, the belt and tape references comes in when they are talking about the body, so the way I read it, the belt and tape were both on the body, not on the black garbage bag or the tarp. They are also talking about the bag at about the same time, so my second guess would be that the belt and/or tape were on the bag. You can find the 911 call on youtube if you want to hear something more complete than the extract published in the MSM articles.

 

[human]

The tarp could not have been there at noon and the neighbor seeing her at 5 PM.

As far as the clothing she was wearing, it would be so easy to photoshop the outfit onto a picture of her, I am sure there is software to do that.

It might jog a memory. Not everyone knows or cares who this child was. What I mean by that is that I no longer know who the children are in my neighborhood as my children are grown.

 

[twopalms]

Funeral Thursday,
http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/07/4986461/funeral-for-murdered-saginaw-6.html

 

[ShadyLadySleuth]

We don't know if the red truck is an older model or a newer model. We don't even know what shade of red it is and is it a single cab or dual cab? I'm wondering if the people that saw this truck have a fairly good description of the driver?? That would help a lot.

I live in Tarrant County and heard a local TV news report that it was a kid(s) who reported seeing the red truck with paint splotch on it. Most kids couldn't tell the make or model of older trucks, but might recognize it in a picture shown to them hopefully.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Respectfully snipped:

I keep asking myself the same question. May not be a socially appropriate question but I can't help it. I think it's a KEY question.

Correct me if I'm wrong ...but I recall hearing "around the block"

 

[Dora the Explorer]

*sigh* Last Tuesday morning driving by Babbling Brook ("West J Boze" as my phone calls it cannot be finished quickly enough), I wondered why there was a cluster of neighbors on the corner chatting. I wish it had stayed a fleeting thought, quickly forgotten (I don't watch the news - generally I just read cnn.com and that afternoon saw a blurb about a child's body found under a tarp. I am glad I stumbled on this thread because I can't stop thinking about Alanna.

 

[ShadyLadySleuth]

Our neighborhood is full of kids playing in the street year-round. Typically unsupervised. I am one of two parents on the street that is ALWAYS out there with my kid. Even in light of recent events, young kids on my street are playing unsupervised and I just shake my head and thank God I'm out there making sure they're not suffering the same fate as Alanna at that moment. I just don't get people. I can be kind of a helicopter parent about some things, but even if I were more of a free-range parent, living in this neighborhood, a child is dead, and nobody has been arrested....and you're still letting your 5 & 6 year olds roam the neighborhood like nothing happened? Oh, I try so hard not to pass judgment but I will never understand this.

You are so right. What strikes fear in my heart most, is that little Alanna only turned 6 in June! So most of her roaming around alone was done when she was 5 years old!