IMO “Indian” and “black” are very different! But don’t want to get too off topic.
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Dang. I'm curious why you think so.
IMO “Indian” and “black” are very different! But don’t want to get too off topic.
KWIM? "Know What I Mean?”I agree it’s not a bad word, but honestly, MOO, there are better words that should be considered.
In this case, it could’ve been written “the adult female victim” or “the person killed” or “Ms. Jefferson”...
Imagine if it had been a traffic fatality. How ridiculous would it seem if it were reported “the black female driver?
KWIM?
I agree it’s not a bad word, but honestly, MOO, there are better words that should be considered.
In this case, it could’ve been written “the adult female victim” or “the person killed” or “Ms. Jefferson”...
Imagine if it had been a traffic fatality. How ridiculous would it seem if it were reported “the black female driver?
KWIM?
Some First Nation peeps in the US prefer to be called Native Americans. Some dislike that term and prefer "Indian." Same thing, "black" & "African American."
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Dang. I'm curious why you think so.
Aaron Dean refused to talk to detectives after killing Atatiana Jefferson
Meanwhile, her 8-year-old nephew has bravely had to recount details after details about his aunt's murder
Likely traumatized from the unthinkable event, Jefferson’s nephew has had to recount that story to police over the last few days.
- As for Dean, he has not. He abruptly quit the force after killing Jefferson, made bond after being charged with her murder, and unlike an 8-year-old child who has had to man-up and speak up, Dean refuses to cooperate and speak with detectives about the case, CNN reports.
What we know from Dean’s attorney Jim Lane is that the trigger-happy cop says he’s “sorry.” But the Fort Worth attorney declined to talk about the case, reports say.
I like Native American and Indian both. I usually refer to myself as Indian. My gggg? (I’m not for sure how many greats she has in her name)...grandma. I call her Tabiatha. This is her name. She is listed on the rolls as Squaw. Offensive to me. imoSome First Nation peeps in the US prefer to be called Native Americans. Some dislike that term and prefer "Indian." Same thing, "black" & "African American."
How sad it is that an innocent child has to act like an adult and an adult gets to act like an innocent child. I wonder, does the nephew have an attorney?
I like Native American and Indian both. I usually refer to myself as Indian. My gggg? (I’m not for sure how many greats she has in her name)...grandma. I call her Tabiatha. This is her name. She is listed on the rolls as Squaw. Offensive to me. imo
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If the traffic fatality was due, say, to a white supremacist driving his car into a crowd of protestors, it would be straightforward ridiculous to omit reference to the driver's race, right? His race was indisputably factually relevant.
A cop killing a civilian is always newsworthy. A cop killing an unarmed civilian is even more newsworthy, as is a cop killing a civilian in her own home, whether or not the civilian was armed.
For a great big bunch of peeps, the race of both cop & dead civilian in a fatal LE shooting is very relevant, especially when the use of deadly force seems or just plain is unjustifiable.
Readers and/or viewers can decide for themselves if race played any part in this or in any other use of deadly force by LE, but omitting mention of the race of both shooter & killed would be journalistic malpractice. And
extremely counterproductive.
jmo
I did not realize all of this. Why exactly did the neighbor call the police?"... The boy said she had the handgun raised and pointed toward the window. This is when Jefferson was shot. ..."
Exactly. She pointed a loaded gun at a police officer who was in response to an open structure call, not a welfare check, at 2:30AM on a weekend night in the highest crime area of Fort Worth. Period.
In the body camera footage there is another officer's back captured on film moments before the shot was fired. The officer fired in defense of self and the other officer.
It's tragic, but this is not a crime. The charge of murder is political. Imo this interim chief can count the hours until he is forced into retirement. He was wrong to say the still frame of the gun shouldn't have been released. He was wrong to rush to judgment and he does not have his officers backs, now they don't have his.
I did not realize all of this. Why exactly did the neighbor call the police?
Well that's good to know. So then Lee Merritt is sitting right next to the nephew when he's being question? Hopefully his Mom will be there too.
I did not realize all of this. Why exactly did the neighbor call the police?
Under these circumstances, no.Do you think Atatiana had a right to defend her home with deadly force under the TX castle doctrine?
But theoretically if she thought there were intruders in her back yard (not knowing they were police) and they had, in fact, intended to make entry into one of the low and quite accessible windows to steal or kidnap she could then be covered under the castle doctrine law as they made entry into a window. Correct?Under these circumstances, no.
Not that it matters, because she never fired her weapon, but for conversation sake....
The cop was not inside the castle.
The cop was not attempting to break in.
The cop was not attempting to kidnap anyone.
In Tx., you can shoot a thief, but you can't shoot a trespasser.
Nor can you shoot anyone that breaks in to your detached garage, or shed.
The Tx Castle doctrine does not mean you can shoot anyone on your residence.(Property)
Section one, Subsection a. Tx. Penal code 93.1.
Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
Texas Penal Code § 9.31 | FindLaw
Texas Penal Code § 9.32 | FindLaw
Having said that. I don't believe that cop had any right to shoot her either, and unlike her, he did fire his weapon.
IMO, if he was yelling at her to show her hands, that to me means that he couldn't see her hands, which means he couldn't see a gun. So why would he fear his life was in danger?