GUILTY TX - Billy Joe Harris for rapes of elderly women in 6 counties, 2011

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Wow, this thread has the most amazing sleuthing ever ! I live in a multi-cultural area, have all my life. I have to agree that LE and media do not release race info as they used to. I will say it this way, everyone walks on eggshells. My multi-cultural students laugh at this behavior from people like me. They profile each other everyday. Regarding this odd perp, I am sitting here looking at one of my favorite reference books "whoever fights monsters." by Mr. Ressler, et al. I cannot figure out this deer-head, clock signature, it is totally odd to me. But it is vitally important and will break this case. Also, there may be a racial anger angle, and this is just IMO. Keep up the great work, you are awesome !
 
Txsvicki--I've wondered about that too. I think, though, that he breaks and enters and doesn't leave signs of his crime. Yes, he might steal something but I don't think it's obvious--like the deer heads. I really don't think that part is to terrify but to scope things out. I could be wrong though.

If it was, indeed, to terrify, there'd be far less success as family would move Mom to another house or get her a dog or put in motion lights or camp out in the pantry with a loaded gun. I think it's more about invading privacy and checking out the territory. I'm sure there's a great thrill in all that. I would imagine that there's a lot of going through lingerie, bedding, and toiletries, checking the lighting, etc.

I once read, somewhere, that rapists will do this and leave a calling card ie. peeing in the toilet and not flushing. Nothing too outrageous, something that might be explained away but still....sick.
 
Here's a thought that TOTALLY creeped me out that I thought of it...what if the purpose of him stealing clocks is so he can stop that clock at the time of the incident? What if he's trying to get a clock for each hour or minute?

Okay, I'm going to go throw up now. :sick:
 
Here's a thought that TOTALLY creeped me out that I thought of it...what if the purpose of him stealing clocks is so he can stop that clock at the time of the incident? What if he's trying to get a clock for each hour or minute?

Okay, I'm going to go throw up now. :sick:

I'll go with that ... now help us think of a reason he would take mounted deer heads....that's just freaky.
 
And sickeningly, along the same line- I believe he would escalate. He must be caught. JMO.
 
I'm gonna have to close for now. I can't wait to see what I dream about tonight. This is getting absolutely unbelievable. The sad thing is another rape could be happening as we speak. Maybe a rested mind will be a useful thing.
 
Okay, here's a few out-of-the-box thoughts:

1. What if the deer heads were symbolic of him "hunting" his victims? It would be interesting to see if the number of clocks & deer heads numbered the same as the number of victims.

2. What if the deer was a play on words? Change deer into dear. I kinow, it's a HUGE stretch.

3. Does TX have a Meals-On-Wheels program? If so, were these women all on that program? If so, could it be a volunteer? What about a census taker? They have been out and about over the past year.

Just some different stuff to throw out there.
 
This is making me sick while I type it, but every idea, right?

My previous post, refer to #2....the play on words. We know this guy is sick, so while trying to get in his head, this came to me.

What if the deer head symbolized the woman? For instance, he would take a deer head, change the "deer" to "Dear" and followed it up with her name (i.e. Dear Mabel), then set the clock under that head, stopped at the time of the crime? Sort of a shrine-type thing. ick
 
Okay, this came to me while I was trying to fall asleep earlier. Since these crimes are rather spread out, I think LE should be looking into possibly events that were taking place and traveled from place to place. For instance, a rodeo, a small band making a tour, carnival, etc. I didn't see if this guy has returned to any of the areas. I did see where one vic was raped, moved, and he found her at her new place. Were there any other rapes between those times? How far apart was it (I can't remember)? Or does he have some sort of sales job that has him travelling? These women all have SOMETHING in common, other than being elderly.
 
Here's a thought that TOTALLY creeped me out that I thought of it...what if the purpose of him stealing clocks is so he can stop that clock at the time of the incident? What if he's trying to get a clock for each hour or minute?

Okay, I'm going to go throw up now. :sick:

Clocks could just be a trophy and something to remember the crime, and nothing more. Serial killers often take something from the victims to remember the crime, and this guy is a serial rapist so he could be taking something to remember the crimes. My guess is he would be storing the items he takes from the victims in his home and then looks at them, like someone would store the trophies he or she won in competition.
 
Clocks could just be a trophy and something to remember the crime, and nothing more. Serial killers often take something from the victims to remember the crime, and this guy is a serial rapist so he could be taking something to remember the crimes. My guess is he would be storing the items he takes from the victims in his home and then looks at them, like someone would store the trophies he or she won in competition.

ITA - it was just VERY late, and while trying to get tired enough to sleep, I was thinking out of the box. I certainly hope none of this is in the least bit accurate.
 
DeepThinker--I don't think you're out of the box at all. My Lord, this guy's out of the stadium. We've gotta think out of the box. If LE would just give us some more to work on, it would make our jobs easier. We've got so little. The thing that worries me is that Texans, in general, have nothing to go on. We've actually turned up far more theories and details and put them in one place than any Texas news source.

I don't think the shrine idea is a bit too "out there". jjenny, you might not have read some of the profiling facts about trophies. They are taken, typically for masturbatory purposes, later, to remember the rapes. That can get problematic with a rack. And if the clock was still ticking, he certainly hadn't stopped it at the moment of the crime. The ticking clock drives me nuts. I wonder if he didn't have two clocks--the pendulum clock and a battery operated one which was ticking loudly. Maybe no one has missed the battery powered one.

So, it's pretty clear that he's not stealing these items for resale as they are not that valuable. It's unlikely that they are stolen before the rapes during the "casing" of the house. I'm pretty sure that's just to get an idea of who lives there and the lay of the land. Has there been mention of a flashlight? Any connection to full moons where there'd be better light so he wouldn't need one?



After resting and mulling this over; here's my profile for today. It's my theory so I can change it at will.

I think this guy is in his mid twenties. I think he's of mixed race; black/white or black/Latino/white. I think he's a quiet loner who had a tough childhood. He knew his Mom but she was unavailable to him. There were most likely other children in the home who got more attention than he did. He might have watched his Mom prostitute. He doesn't know his Dad. I think that he most likely was sent to live with an older relative but that it didn't work out for some reason. I think he spent time in foster care, most likely in Yoakum, possibly at the Youth Ranch. I think he's been cared for by older white women. He might have been abused by some or felt shuttled to the side by other kids, maybe due to his race, or his good behavior (a real problem in foster homes). I think that he's got a lot of pent up anger/sadness over his social deficits. He could be in the closet with his sexuality as he doesn't have a girlfriend and he's never had much luck with girls. In fact, they scare him. He's lived in white homes and thus doesn't act as "black" as he'd like and feels torn between two cultures. He knows how to "walk the walk" of fitting into a nice white neighborhood in a small Texas town but doesn't feel totally accepted there as an adult. He knows the world of older Southern women. He feels very comfortable in these houses but he got hurt (emotionally or physically in a house just like this). He was a high average to excellent student but only won second place in awards. Teachers liked him as he was compliant and did his homework but didn't attract a lot of attention. He was seen as a bit of a nerd by classmates. He might be a college student or have a job but his performance doesn't please him. If he belongs to a fraternity, he's on the periphery.

I think he went to visit a prior foster mom and was rebuffed sometime before the first rape. That woman might have had dementia or was not "available" to him for some reason. He truly craved her love and attention as she was his favorite but he wasn't "special" to her for some reason. He has a great deal of shame and remorse for what he's doing and is getting very little sexual pleasure from the rapes. He's researched his paraphilia and understands it intellectually but can't stop it. His car is neat. His clothes are "fresh" but not overly hip. His body is impeccably clean as are his fingernails. His hair is kept cut short and well-groomed. He listens to a wide range of music (to fit in) but if you checked his car radio, he'd probably have "white" stations pre-set. He's afraid of dogs but feels comfortable around cats and might even have one. He feels very comfortable in churches but doesn't have a church family. He visits at churches and sits somewhere in the middle by himself. He's pleasant but cool to others in church, not overly demonstrative or friendly. He doesn't laugh easily. As I said, he's very sad and feels that the world has not been fair to him. He'd like to stop but he just can't.

Done. I kind of "free-channeled" it from everything I've been thinking over the last week. I truly believe that he'll be caught if they look very very closely at the Yoakum victim who was raped twice.
 
found another article with interesting info:

* the perp has beaten a vic
* the perp may have called a potential vic on the phone to see if she would be home that night (she didn't stay home) - a man called the next day laughing
* perp stole mounted deer heads and a clock from a vic

http://news8austin.com/content/your_news/?SecID=278&ArID=256516

IMO, the fact that the perp took mounted deer heads, means his vehicle must have been close by. I wonder if there are any "all night / open 24 hour businesses where he could have stashed his car while committing this crime. To travel far, (on foot) w/ a mounted deer head is bizarre. Did you notice the article said, heads. It does not seem like this guy would take the chance on parking his car on the street where a nosy neighbor could see it. Perhaps he is even a driver of a delivery truck. Drives to the store to make his deliveries and then plans his crimes around the delivery sites? Clocks and deer heads................. so weird.
 
I know, Ruflossn, that's what we were ranting over last night--H.E.A.D.S. Plural. Unbelievable. If you look at the study I linked to, the violence increases if the women struggle at all. That also increases the pleasure. Very sick. I'm just not getting the deer heads and clocks. I'm on edge waiting for the next weird detail. I'm afraid to take a guess.
 
I know, Ruflossn, that's what we were ranting over last night--H.E.A.D.S. Plural. Unbelievable. If you look at the study I linked to, the violence increases if the women struggle at all. That also increases the pleasure. Very sick. I'm just not getting the deer heads and clocks. I'm on edge waiting for the next weird detail. I'm afraid to take a guess.

As someone who is interested in behavioral profiling, I can not wait until this guy is caught. I have studied profiling for a couple years and I have never read anything as bizarre as clocks and deer heads. This guy is going to be interesting to study.

There is no doubt that he will get caught. By attacking a victim twice, and her being a victim that was relocated by LE, indicates he is very brazen. His ego will continue to grow and he will continue to escalate his brazenness until he makes mistake and then he will be caught.

I keep thinking of this creep having a clock outside the window when he was attempting to break into a womans house. To me this could indicate 2 things ~
1) Earlier in the night / early morning he had broken into a home, taken the clock from that residence and still had it w/ him while attempting to break into another home.
2) This guy is taking clocks to the different crime locations and leaving them as some sort of sick calling card.

My friend who profiles cases believes he is taking the clocks as trophies and not leaving them at other residences.

Lastly, I have been trying to research whether or not fingerprints are required for obtaining a Texas drivers license. From what I can read it is not a requirement. Many years ago, I lived in Texas and was not fingerprinted for a drivers license. But, things could have changed.
 
I keep trying to find something that would bring this creep to Lubbock. I posted yesterday about an odd comment on a fraternity's forum concerning race and rape by a commenter called "Tick Tock". The comment was posted on Oct. 24th, right around the time of three attacks.

The fraternity is Brothers Under Christ or Beta Upsilon Chi. The forum was out of of the Theta branch, based at the University of North Texas, Denton. They have chapters at numerous colleges. There is a chapter at Texas Tech which is in Lubbock and I found this:

http://techannounce.ttu.edu/Client/ViewMessage.aspx?MsgId=106469

This is an announcement for the MLK celebrations planned at Texas Tech on Jan. 15th at noon. The rape occurred early the next morning. Txsvicki, who is local says that she heard that the rape occurred at 6:30 am on the 16th. At some point the rape victim's ATM was used by either the rapist, an associate, or merely someone who found a ditched purse. I'm not sure what time the ATM photo was taken but it looks to have been taken in the dark.

If our guy followed his typical MO, he would have had some time to case a woman's house after the MLK celebration. The announcement states that there was a video clip, remarks by a Rev. Shaun Avery and music. There's no mention of this particular fraternity but I would think that a Christian fraternity would have made a showing of some kind. FWIW
 
One victim reported that the ticking was a loud as a time bomb and that it woke her up. Is the ticking to frighten the victim or is it for his pleasure? I'd think he wouldn't want to alert a victim to his presence.
 
As someone who is interested in behavioral profiling, I can not wait until this guy is caught. I have studied profiling for a couple years and I have never read anything as bizarre as clocks and deer heads. This guy is going to be interesting to study.

There is no doubt that he will get caught. By attacking a victim twice, and her being a victim that was relocated by LE, indicates he is very brazen. His ego will continue to grow and he will continue to escalate his brazenness until he makes mistake and then he will be caught.

I keep thinking of this creep having a clock outside the window when he was attempting to break into a womans house. To me this could indicate 2 things ~
1) Earlier in the night / early morning he had broken into a home, taken the clock from that residence and still had it w/ him while attempting to break into another home.
2) This guy is taking clocks to the different crime locations and leaving them as some sort of sick calling card.

My friend who profiles cases believes he is taking the clocks as trophies and not leaving them at other residences.

Lastly, I have been trying to research whether or not fingerprints are required for obtaining a Texas drivers license. From what I can read it is not a requirement. Many years ago, I lived in Texas and was not fingerprinted for a drivers license. But, things could have changed.

There is no fingerprinting required to obtain a TX drivers license.
 
Thumbprints are required for a TX DL -- I submitted mine back in the '70's.

Thumbprint Capture for Driver Licenses and Identification Cards

Texas Transportation Code, Section 521.142 (b)(1) requires the Texas Department of Public Safety to obtain thumbprints for a Texas driver license. This requirement has been in effect since 1967. In 1995, statutory authority was passed that allowed the Department to require the same information for applicants renewing or obtaining a duplicate driver license. At this time the Department was also allowed to require the thumbprints when issuing,
....

Each applicant visiting the driver license office will be required to submit updated thumbprint images for all duplicate, renewal and original transactions renewing or providing a duplicate identification card.


http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/thumbprint.htm


ETA:

2) I am a Texas resident and have never had a Texas license, what do I need to do in order to apply for one?

In addition to testing, all first time original applicants must visit a Texas Driver License office in their area and present and do the following:

* Proof of Identity. 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.24.
* Proof of Social Security Number. 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.42, Texas Transportation Code 521.044.
* Proof of Texas vehicle registration and liability insurance, if you own a vehicle. Texas Transportation Code 521.143.
* Complete required forms available at any Texas Driver License office.
* Pay the required fee. 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.40, Texas Transportation Code 521.421.
* Pass the written, driving* and vision examinations. 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.51, 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.52, 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.56, Texas Transportation Code 521.161.
* Application must include photograph and thumbprints; however, thumbprints are not included on the driver license. 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.44, 37 Texas Administrative Code 15.45, Texas Transportation Code 521.142.


http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/faq/answers_dl_id.htm
 
O/T but I wonder what they'd do with me? I have no fingerprints.....NONE. Never have. And, yes, I do have fingers and all the other parts. Every single time we've adopted, I've had to get special clearance and waiver from the FBI. I even had this gruff retired agent hold hands with me for about an hour at the SF office. He was not going to give up and swore he could get prints off a fish. When he finally had to admit defeat, he said I was the first person he'd ever encountered that had none at all. Makes me feel very...uh...unique. Everyone in LE always has to make jokes about it and tell me that I missed my calling. They'll never know, I guess. O/T, I'm sorry.

I knew you were right, TM. They've had that rule for quite a while IIRC. I wonder if our guy isn't licensed out of state, though? When our older kids went to college out of state, they kept their Oregon DL's. This would shoot down the theory of him working in any sort of government or service industry, though, as I'd think he'd be required to be licensed in Texas.
 

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