GUILTY TX - Brian, 31, & Michell Conrad, 35, Zach Doan, 14, murdered, 29 Sept 2005

[ToddinPampa]

How high up does the corruption go? Could you give your tips to the state investigative team and get any results? Anonymously of course.

The Texas Rangers are already aware. They're leading the investigation and usually do a good job where Pampa crime is concerned. The radio station last night leaked that Sawyer had been arrested, but I think they got hold of that before it was ready to be released. As of tonight there's still no announcement, but keep your fingers crossed that they're just making sure all their t's are crossed before issuing formal charges.

 

[vanillasky]

I certainly hope so, and that he is punished severely along with anyone else involved. He / They deserve nothing less than death. :furious:

 

[SewingDeb]

The Texas Rangers are already aware. They're leading the investigation and usually do a good job where Pampa crime is concerned. The radio station last night leaked that Sawyer had been arrested, but I think they got hold of that before it was ready to be released. As of tonight there's still no announcement, but keep your fingers crossed that they're just making sure all their t's are crossed before issuing formal charges.

Oh, I hope so. I hate to see criminals get away with anything and everything because the local officials are corrupt.

 

[vanillasky]

ToddInPampa,

Any updates today? I've been checking online daily, but there's rarely an update.

 

[ToddinPampa]

ToddInPampa,

Any updates today? I've been checking online daily, but there's rarely an update.

Not really. In the past few days, the FBI has taken more of a role in investigating the case. That's all I know at this point. I'll be having lunch in a few with some folks in the know, so I may have an update this afternoon.

 

[jannuncutt]

This is so very sad......and so chilling!

 

[vanillasky]

Not really. In the past few days, the FBI has taken more of a role in investigating the case. That's all I know at this point. I'll be having lunch in a few with some folks in the know, so I may have an update this afternoon.

Thank you, the updates are appreciated very much! This case has been weighing on my mind every day.

 

[ToddinPampa]

Well, no new updates. But someone who is attending a big training session today on meth use really educated me at lunch on the seriousness of the problem. (You'll recall from an earlier post that there is a meth connection in these murders)

The prevalence of meth in society now is staggering, and I didn't realize it. It's very easy to cook your own meth.
So a lot of people are getting into it who might normally never go there if they had to depend on a dealer. Meth brings on its own kind of insanity – people become incredibly deviant sexually as well as violently aggressive. I think a lot of the more heinous crimes that we see reported on this website probably have meth involved.



This training session today – hundreds and hundreds of people there, including not just law enforcement but schoolteachers and pastors. It’s a tragedy happening before our very eyes, yet I’m not hearing about it on the news.

 

[NewMom2003]

This is so horrible and unnecessary. :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: Thank God the little girl was saved.

 

[txsvicki]

Well, no new updates. But someone who is attending a big training session today on meth use really educated me at lunch on the seriousness of the problem. (You'll recall from an earlier post that there is a meth connection in these murders)

The prevalence of meth in society now is staggering, and I didn't realize it. It's very easy to cook your own meth.
So a lot of people are getting into it who might normally never go there if they had to depend on a dealer. Meth brings on its own kind of insanity – people become incredibly deviant sexually as well as violently aggressive. I think a lot of the more heinous crimes that we see reported on this website probably have meth involved.



This training session today – hundreds and hundreds of people there, including not just law enforcement but schoolteachers and pastors. It’s a tragedy happening before our very eyes, yet I’m not hearing about it on the news.

People are selling drugs down the street from me, probably meth since they are white people, according to the cops. I'm really afraid now, and will probably quit giving them dirty looks. One of my neighbors is after them to get this stopped and I hope that nothing happens. I can't afford to move right now.

 

[mysteriew]

Prosecutors revealed Wednesday that a woman accused of dismembering her husband recently sent them a package containing his wedding ring and keys in an attempt to frame one of the victim's sisters.

"This is a sign of defendant disintegrating," Assistant Attorney General Patricia Prezioso told a state judge as she requested he increase Melanie McGuire's bail to $3 million.

Prezioso said the higher bail was warranted in light of new details, including an indictment handed up Tuesday and made public Wednesday that charged McGuire with murder, desecration of a corpse, perjury and a weapons violation.

http://www.nj.com/newsflash/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-17/112912734113612.xml&storylist=jersey

 

[IslandGirl]

I hope they get more justice in this case than in so many more meth-related crimes in small towns in Texas that just seem to get "swept under the rug". I've been following the Steven Jones case on FFJ, and there seems to be no real closure in that one--same scenario. Corrupt officials, meth related violence. That is the worst drug to plague our society. It makes folks just plain mean, and even psychotic. It's amazing the damage that is NOT published, the family abuse and such, that goes on with Meth involvement. ToddNP, it's really quite logical, what you said. It's not right, nor was the action of the killer(s) logical, of course, just the explanation was.

 

[ToddinPampa]

People are selling drugs down the street from me, probably meth since they are white people, according to the cops. I'm really afraid now, and will probably quit giving them dirty looks. One of my neighbors is after them to get this stopped and I hope that nothing happens. I can't afford to move right now.

Vicki, I'd encourage you to tell your neighbor
not to confront those people. People involved in meth are not to be trifled with. Tell your neighbor the story of this family. The biggest mistake the man made was giving the drug dealer an ultimatum, “If you don’t stop what you’re doing, I’m going to the police.” It’s fine to go to the police – just don’t tip off the dealer! They can’t be reasoned or negotiated with. The biggest mistake that people make is when they get confrontational – like the man the other day who yelled at a passing car from his yard, telling them to slow down. He did this with his 3-yr-old son at his side. They rolled down the window and shot his son. But people think they can be heroes and that they’ll be bullet-proof, all the while putting themselves and their loved ones in jeopardy.

 

[jannuncutt]

People are selling drugs down the street from me, probably meth since they are white people, according to the cops. I'm really afraid now, and will probably quit giving them dirty looks. One of my neighbors is after them to get this stopped and I hope that nothing happens. I can't afford to move right now.

.............so, ummmm, are the police going to arrest the white people who are selling meth? (sorry I couldn't resist).

 

[ToddinPampa]

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/101305/new_3003388.shtml

This is a new article, although it's misleading. I have written the reporter and taken him to task over the headline. Anxieties have NOT eased in Pampa. If a multiple homicide happened in YOUR little town, and 2 weeks later there were no arrests and still not a shred of information, would YOU be less anxious?

I told the reporter the name of the guy who did this. I encouraged him to grow a pair and actually try some investigative journalism for a change.

 

[jannuncutt]

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/101305/new_3003388.shtml

This is a new article, although it's misleading. I have written the reporter and taken him to task over the headline. Anxieties have NOT eased in Pampa. If a multiple homicide happened in YOUR little town, and 2 weeks later there were no arrests and still not a shred of information, would YOU be less anxious?

I told the reporter the name of the guy who did this. I encouraged him to grow a pair and actually try some investigative journalism for a change.

Todd, I have been following this case over the internet. From what I read yesterday, it seemed like a lot of the town people were afraid to talk about the case. It sounded, to me, like there are a lot of rumors that people are fearful of addressing. Am I correct?

 

[ToddinPampa]

Todd, I have been following this case over the internet. From what I read yesterday, it seemed like a lot of the town people were afraid to talk about the case. It sounded, to me, like there are a lot of rumors that people are fearful of addressing. Am I correct?

Jannuncutt, you are correct. If you'll go back through my posts in this thread, I basically lay out who did it and why. And even before the murders happened, it was a known thing in Pampa that you didn't even say Barney Sawyer's name -- if you did, you had a big bullseye on your back.

Even today, he's calling up the local domestic violence victim center in Pampa asking for the address of one of their clients so he can get some of her personal belongings back to her. How stupid is he, to think that they'd give out someone's address who is a victim of his?

 

[tezi]

Jannuncutt, you are correct. If you'll go back through my posts in this thread, I basically lay out who did it and why. And even before the murders happened, it was a known thing in Pampa that you didn't even say Barney Sawyer's name -- if you did, you had a big bullseye on your back.

Even today, he's calling up the local domestic violence victim center in Pampa asking for the address of one of their clients so he can get some of her personal belongings back to her. How stupid is he, to think that they'd give out someone's address who is a victim of his?

He's obviously not too bright.

Todd, I live in a small town in AR. I know the meth problem here is terrible. I walked over to my BIL's house about six weeks ago and walked right into a drug bust. The DEA had their guns out and everything. Scared the chit right out of me. I guess I didn't need to borrow a bottle of gatorade right then. They arrested 13 people in one small trailer that morning. These people made it obvious what they were doing. One night I counted 35 different cars going to that trailer. Needless to say, my kids are not allowed to go on that street!

There's corrupt officials here too. It was swept under the rug that one of the lead prosecutors on the drug task force was found with meth. He still has his job....Something is very wrong with this picture.

Please keep us updated. This is an interesting case.

 

[jannuncutt]

Jannuncutt, you are correct. If you'll go back through my posts in this thread, I basically lay out who did it and why. And even before the murders happened, it was a known thing in Pampa that you didn't even say Barney Sawyer's name -- if you did, you had a big bullseye on your back.

Even today, he's calling up the local domestic violence victim center in Pampa asking for the address of one of their clients so he can get some of her personal belongings back to her. How stupid is he, to think that they'd give out someone's address who is a victim of his?

Todd - isn't it possible that you are putting your life in danger?

 

[ToddinPampa]

Todd - isn't it possible that you are putting your life in danger?

Only if I’m dumb enough to leave a trail for him to track me down. And I’m not that dumb.