GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

[MzOpinion8d]

Do you know the parents or their parenting style? If I'm not mistaken he is an adult, not a child. And I have to respectfully disagree (as you probably guessed ) about not making him a suspect. Until the entourage showed up with posters with his name, pictures of him, his address posted online, and an invitation to the public to show up and protest with the family, perhaps people took the PPD's word that he isn't a suspect. Now, he is likely the subject of whispers, doubt, and ridicule. HE and his parents did not do that....the police did not do that. The family did. Perception is reality right?

I have to say that I have seen him mentioned as a suspect with lots of whispers and doubt swirling around him on several other online sites for several weeks but it hasn't been mentioned on WS or has been removed if anyone did mention it. Just because it wasn't being discussed here doesn't mean it wasn't being discussed.

 

[SaintGirl]

Information from where though? Suspect info would have to come from LE, right?
LE hasn't made any specific new statements. LE did refer to a situation in Christina's past though which sounded like a hint stemming back to her purse being stolen or possibly the conversation on CM's fb about "karma".

LE seemed to indicate the investigation is broader than just the events of August 30.

Adding link, September 22 article where Officer Tilley comments,
"We're talking to anyone who might have any information at all of something even in the past," Tilley explained.
http://cw33.com/2014/09/22/without-a-trace-morris-dissapearence-creates-unease-in-plano/

At the 1:25 mark reporter said (paraphrasing) PPD couldn't answer whether or not walker was still cooperating. That's a bit of a change.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/video/#!/news/local/Christina-Morris-Reward-Raised-to--25-000/279982542

 

[cluciano63]

Although two months is a long time, I am surprised by how many feel that is so long for Missing Persons, when many have been missing for years on end, with little or new information coming out, either then or now. Generally, from cases I have followed or looked into, if a person is not found within the first week or so, especially adults, the chances seem pretty slim, unless someone finds a body. The exceptions are i.e an abusive spouse who either confesses or a suspect presenting himself (or herself) right away, thru bad alibis, phone tracking, etc. Seems like none of that happened here. It doesn't have to mean there is a grand conspiracy, Imo or that LE isn't doing their thing. Imo there is nothing new in how this case is being reported, or non-reported. In fact, sadly, it is all too common. Jmo

 

[cluciano63]

My O/T question about the entire post was "What is Fox News-ish" ??? I am not familiar with that.

Depends. To me it is borderline hysterical, somewhat dubious, and sensational. But jmo, lol.

 

[txyorkiemom]

At the 1:25 mark reporter said (paraphrasing) PPD couldn't answer whether or not walker was still cooperating. That's a bit of a change.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/video/#!/news/local/Christina-Morris-Reward-Raised-to--25-000/279982542

Just means that they can not confirm , just as the PPD and MSM is not identifying him publicly as many reports are indicating.

IMHO it is because he has Legal Representation

 

[SaintGirl]

Just means that they can not confirm , just as the PPD and MSM is not identifying him publicly as many reports are indicating.

IMHO it is because he has Legal Representation

So he cooperated at first - albeit not honestly per her mom - then stopped talking when he got an attorney? That would make sense.

 

[Doj1234]

Although two months is a long time, I am surprised by how many feel that is so long for Missing Persons, when many have been missing for years on end, with little or new information coming out, either then or now. Generally, from cases I have followed or looked into, if a person is not found within the first week or so, especially adults, the chances seem pretty slim, unless someone finds a body. The exceptions are i.e an abusive spouse who either confesses or a suspect presenting himself (or herself) right away, thru bad alibis, phone tracking, etc. Seems like none of that happened here. It doesn't have to mean there is a grand conspiracy, Imo or that LE isn't doing their thing. Imo there is nothing new in how this case is being reported, or non-reported. In fact, sadly, it is all too common. Jmo

It's unnerving to me. You committed sleuthers do good work, but I'm not one of you, it's too frustrating.

 

[SaintGirl]

There were no pings from her cell after her last text, correct? Last ping came from the garage?

 

[txyorkiemom]

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html
Steven Nickerson was with Morris before she went missing and said she seemed a little upset that night, but he didn't know what was wrong. He said she insisted on driving back home to Fort Worth, but he never realized it would be the last time he saw her before she was reported missing.

According to this report ..he was with her before she went missing and knew she was going to be driving back to Fort Worth.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

At the 1:25 mark reporter said (paraphrasing) PPD couldn't answer whether or not walker was still cooperating. That's a bit of a change.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/video/#!/news/local/Christina-Morris-Reward-Raised-to--25-000/279982542

The reporter states when we asked (she said "we" so I imagine she means someone on the nbc staff?), (who did they ask?, the person who answered the phone at the police station?), "they couldn't answer that question". I assume the reporter is referring to someone who works for the police department but we don't know who they contacted. Like, if an investigator answered or if a phone person indicated LE isn't giving out info about the case in general. Good reporting uses quoted statements given by a named person such as, Officer Tilley said.

Not trying to be difficult, but in most cases, info isn't considered a fact unless it comes from a named LE.
Reporting is so lame these days imo. Tilley stated he's not working to please the public, just working to find evidence to support if a crime has been committed. No news from him, is no meaningful news imo.

 

[txyorkiemom]

There were no pings from her cell after her last text, correct? Last ping came from the garage?

There is not a way to be that specific .. I have asked this question several times...the way it has been explained to me is "triangulation points" it is in "THE SHOPS at LEGACY"
Here is exact quote from PPD in MSM

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/06/us/texas-missing-woman/
Police said Morris' cell phone is either dead or turned off. "We have been able to track the phone's last known location and that was in the Shops at Legacy," Tilley said

 

[SeriouslySearching]

While I don't agree with the way Christina's family has gone about things the past few days, I can only imagine the hell they are going through without their daughter and the not knowing. I sympathize with their plight and hope against all odds this turns out to be a situation where she will walk back into their lives. I pray they will find her soon.

Someone asked earlier what should they be doing instead of picketing EA's home and I gave it much thought today. Vigils, passing out fliers, and giving interviews to generate interest are standard things families do. If they want to go beyond to create more awareness of the situation, I do have a few suggestions:

I would like to see them do something positive with their time and energy such as picket the shops and garage where she went missing to do something about their cameras and security. I would like to see picket signs of Christina walking into their garage without a clue as to how unsafe it was for her to enter there with or without someone escorting her. Obviously their cameras are of little help inside and there was zero security to watch out for her. If they had adequate security, there would be no reason for any of this so why not start there with the blame game? Make it safe for others so this doesn't happen to another family.

Have people go into the bars every night where Christina spent time with friends to pass out fliers and ask questions of people who could have been there on the night she went missing in case someone saw something. Ask if people took any photos on that night which could have Christina and others in the background. Sometimes the bar itself takes random club photos for their website or other advertising so check those, too. (Good way to see if someone is among the crowd who wasn't supposed to be present.) Besides they are all potential witnesses and LE doesn't have time to track them all down. This would be helpful and possibly find the owners of the other vehicles parked in the garage that night. Who knows if it could lead to finding someone who actually saw her or someone else hanging out inside the garage?

Their attention should be on generating new leads and finding new witnesses. They need to move forward and use their ingenuity to rise above tawdry antics. Maybe they need to ask advice from people who have been through this and lean on one of the well established groups who come together to help families navigate such nightmares. Perhaps the advice they are getting currently should be reconsidered and better left to professionals or others with experience to guide them.

 

[cluciano63]

The reporter states when we asked (she said "we" so I imagine she means someone on the nbc staff?), (who did they ask?, the person who answered the phone at the police station?), "they couldn't answer that question". I assume the reporter is referring to someone who works for the police department but we don't know who they contacted. Like, if an investigator answered or if a phone person indicated LE isn't giving out info about the case in general. Good reporting uses quoted statements given by a named person such as, Officer Tilley said.

Not trying to be difficult, but in most cases, info isn't considered a fact unless it comes from a named LE.
Reporting is so lame these days imo. Tilley stated he's not working to please the public, just working to find evidence to support if a crime has been committed. No news from him, is no meaningful news imo.

They couldn't very well say he is cooperating, if he is, unless they were willing to open a can of worms and be asked about some of the others, when/if they really did not want to say so. I kind of think they do have someone in mind, but if the person is not going to confess, and she is not found, not much they can do. Sometimes, a few years down the lime, some prosecutors will go ahead with a not too solid circumstantial case, hoping to get lucky and a also a jury with some imagination, able to fill in the blanks. We may have a long wait on this one.

I have followed a ton of cases and often wonder which ones are going to turn out to be "one of these" ones. Most are cleared up in a matter of days or a week or two, one way or another. Others...just go on. To be honest, I think I have seen more confessions when there is only person involved in the "time went missing" period. Somehow, groups often seen to manage to keep quiet, like with Lauren, Kortne, Hayley C. Etc Jmo

 

[txyorkiemom]

Depends. To me it is borderline hysterical, somewhat dubious, and sensational. But jmo, lol.

Actually .. what I gathered it is not very nice .. actually I LOVE FOX NEWS.

 

[Snoods]

Yes, you did. Thank you. This is in answer to your subsequent question to me: how do you envision that something of this nature will be staying as a 100% guaranteed "Peaceful Picket"?
My answer to your question was: Well, I don't. It would depend on how confrontational the parents group is and how confrontational the neighbors are. You seem to think the act of protesting is in itself confrontational.....I don't. I think saying IF it becomes non-peaceful would be less prejudicial and inflammatory than WHEN it becomes non-peaceful. WHEN is too Fox news-ish to me. MOO

BBM Still confused about what is Fox-newish. So when a protest is peaceful and nonprejudicial it's not Fox-newish. But when a protest becomes non-peaceful, prejudicial and inflammatory it is Fox news-ish? Isn't that statement in itself prejudicial and inflammatory?

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post, it's late and I'm tired!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html
Steven Nickerson was with Morris before she went missing and said she seemed a little upset that night, but he didn't know what was wrong. He said she insisted on driving back home to Fort Worth, but he never realized it would be the last time he saw her before she was reported missing.

According to this report ..he was with her before she went missing and knew she was going to be driving back to Fort Worth.

That is a bit misleading as it is made to sound like he is the one with her going to the garage. Very strange that he talks about her in the past tense. Odd finger comment, too.

"She was loved by everyone. She was the nicest person I've ever met, great personality," said Nickerson. "I don't see anyone that could lay a finger on her."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html

 

[txyorkiemom]

That is a bit misleading as it is made to sound like he is the one with her going to the garage. Very strange that he talks about her in the past tense. Odd finger comment, too.

"She was loved by everyone. She was the nicest person I've ever met, great personality," said Nickerson. "I don't see anyone that could lay a finger on her."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html

I know ..could he have been with her in the Apartment?? Waiting for her in the garage?? He did by his statement know she was going to be driving

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I know ..could he have been with her in the Apartment?? Waiting for her in the garage?? He did by his statement know she was going to be driving

He used the word, "insisted". Not like saying she mentioned it or she thought about going to Ft. Worth, but made it her total focus she was going there. So why didn't PPD give his statement more weight? Did they perhaps overlook a huge clue there?

Could it be she was giving him the brush off by stating she was leaving and going to Ft. Worth? Maybe it is why she changed her plans about staying? I had not given it any thought her plans changed due to something going on inside that apartment not the 15 + texts. Something to ponder.

 

[Snoods]

That is a bit misleading as it is made to sound like he is the one with her going to the garage. Very strange that he talks about her in the past tense. Odd finger comment, too.

"She was loved by everyone. She was the nicest person I've ever met, great personality," said Nickerson. "I don't see anyone that could lay a finger on her."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html

Seriouslysearching nice to see you! How have ya been?

As far as the past tense thing, I followed a case closely in my hometown, Kelly Sowders, who was murdered by her estrangesd husband Matthew. But at the time she was missing Kelly's boyfriend gave some super shady interviews saying things like "Kelly is an angel in heaven, she was the best" etc. I just KNEW he was the one who killed Kelly, the guy was just so super sketchy. But, it was the hubby. Here is the thread if anyone is interested, it's not too long but it's really interesting:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...sa-Sowders-26-Harris-County-26-Dec-2013/page3

I agree with you though, it's so hard not to say "why the heck are you talking about her as if she were already dead!?"

 

[txyorkiemom]

He used the word, "insisted". Not like saying she mentioned it or she thought about going to Ft. Worth, but made it her total focus she was going there. So why didn't PPD give his statement more weight? Did they perhaps overlook a huge clue there?

Could it be she was giving him the brush off by stating she was leaving and going to Ft. Worth? Maybe it is why she changed her plans about staying? I had not given it any thought her plans changed due to something going on inside that apartment not the 15 + texts. Something to ponder.

I have asked this about 50 times .. But we still do not have a complete list of who exactly was there at that apartment even for just a little while.
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