GUILTY TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #7

[Cortne]

Good morning my lovely friends! I'm ready to get this emotional show on the road, earphones , phone , Starbucks and ability to tune my coworkers out Check! lets go! RIP Botham Jean we got your back!

Amen sister!!

Also I thought this was no parole? She has to serve the full sentence?

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I'm thinking she'll get 30 to life, so she would have to serve 30 years before being eligible for parole.

 

[Cryptic]

Thanks. If the jury hangs, will the judge will render a sentence?

As a side note, the judge, not the jury is the final authority in sentencing. Any sentence imposed by the jury is purely advisory.

I imagine that different judges give the advise different amounts of weight. Likewise, some judges will give guidance to the jury regarding what range of sentence length they are willing to accept.

At the end of the day, however, it is the judge who decides the sentence- well, providing that there are no mandatory minimums or "must be given LWOP" type laws.

 

[wyome]

As a side note, the judge, not the jury is the final authority in sentencing. Any sentence imposed by the jury is purely advisory.

I imagine that different judges give the advise different amounts of weight. Likewise, some judges will give guidance to the jury regarding what range of sentence length they are willing to accept.

At the end of the day, however, it is the judge who decides the sentence- well, providing that there are no mandatory minimums or "must be given LWOP" type laws. In this case, there are not.

So I suppose if the jury can't unanimously agree to a sentence, then the judge will just impose a sentence?

 

[gitana1]

^^SBM

I believe her family has been silent/absent because of earlier accusations. I recall several reports earlier that alleged her family were racists-- citing various photos from 2016 social media -- mainly of AG's brother in law, and one photo of her mom wearing an "All Lives Matter" t-shirt.

Dallas police officer Amber Guyger's family says they aren't racist, deny gestures in photos are white power signs

Yeah and none of that was persuasive to me wen it came to AG but her texts have changed my opinion as to that.

 

[turaj]

As a side note, the judge, not the jury is the final authority in sentencing. Any sentence imposed by the jury is purely advisory.

I imagine that different judges give the advise different amounts of weight. Likewise, some judges will give guidance to the jury regarding what range of sentence length they are willing to accept.

At the end of the day, however, it is the judge who decides the sentence- well, providing that there are no mandatory minimums or "must be given LWOP" type laws. In this case, there are not.

I believe the minimum has been indicated as 5 years.

 

[mickey2942]

Yeah and none of that was persuasive to me wen it came to AG but her texts have changed my opinion as to that.

The jurors were probably appalled by the Social Media. I have worked with my kids on this, and texting.

 

[BeachSky]

She won’t be isolated from the general incarcerated population will she?

MIO

 

[Mandos]

So I suppose if the jury can't unanimously agree to a sentence, then the judge will just impose a sentence?

2005 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure CHAPTER 37. THE VERDICT

"Art. 37.07. Sec. 3:
(c) (...) In the event the jury shall fail to agree on the issue of punishment, a mistrial shall be declared only in the punishment phase of the trial, the jury shall be discharged, and no jeopardy shall attach. The court shall impanel another jury as soon as practicable to determine the issue of punishment. "

So according to the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure it would result in a mistrial for the sentencing portion of the trial. The murder conviction will stand, but a new jury would need to be empaneled for a new sentencing phase.

 

[722prayers]

Watching the testimony from Botham's mom was hard to hear and I took a break from the sentencing yesterday. I was talking to my mom about trials and how the general public understands very little about how police departments go through their hiring process and that few know the off-color humor most officers have to deal with the stress of the calls we see.

I hate that this is going to come off as defending AG, but there are plenty of anonymous officer SM accounts you guys can peruse that will show very similar memes. Cops have weird humor. We see a dead body and then ask who wants to get scrambled eggs for breakfast. It sounds extremely rude to the general public. It's stress management. It's finding a way to go to the next one.

Also, using the previous departments who didn't hire her . . . her defense team SHOULD have an easy time explaining by using any major department's hiring practices. Failing a polygraph could be as simple as lying about drug use instead of admitting. It's counter-intuitive. You go in and admit to everything. They aren't there to prosecute; they want to know you'll tell the Dept the truth.

 

[gitana1]

She won’t be isolated from the general incarcerated population will she?

MIO

She should be.

 

[722prayers]

She won’t be isolated from the general incarcerated population will she?

MIO

*Maybe* not for her entire sentence, but certainly in the local jail where she's being held now and most likely the first year or possibly more in prison. The jail and prison have a duty to protect all inmates from harm, so if GenPop poses a threat, she will be kept in segregated lockup.

 

[wyome]

2005 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure CHAPTER 37. THE VERDICT

"Art. 37.07. Sec. 3:
(c) (...) In the event the jury shall fail to agree on the issue of punishment, a mistrial shall be declared only in the punishment phase of the trial, the jury shall be discharged, and no jeopardy shall attach. The court shall impanel another jury as soon as practicable to determine the issue of punishment. "

So according to the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure it would result in a mistrial for the sentencing portion of the trial. The murder conviction will stand, but a new jury would need to be empaneled for a new sentencing phase.

You're like my text book, thanks!

 

[btfly547]

Members of Guyger's family, who were in court for the first time Monday, sat in court, quietly consoling one another.

Am I reading that part correctly. Was her family not present during the trial last week at all?
That has to be worded incorrectly. I just can't believe that part at all. I know they can watch on television, but I would think I would want to be there physically for my adult child in those circumstances.

 

[sloane7777]

The jurors were probably appalled by the Social Media. I have worked with my kids on this, and texting.

YES because she is a 31 year old police officer who on earth expects an adult to act like that , and yes me too I have a daughter I've had to work with too , gotta teach what NOT to put out there I hope this case makes some realize that!

 

[wyome]

*Maybe* not for her entire sentence, but certainly in the local jail where she's being held now and most likely the first year or possibly more in prison. The jail and prison have a duty to protect all inmates from harm, so if GenPop poses a threat, she will be kept in segregated lockup.

Anyone know what segregated lockup looks like? Is it 23 hrs in a cell and one-hour for activity, alone 24/7? Or is there a pocket of other segregated inmates that she would around?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

1. August of 2018
Botham Jean moves into South Side Flats apartment complex in Dallas, Texas. He is deeply involved in his church and works for the accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.

2. September 6, 2018
Around 10 p.m., Botham Jean is in his home. While the details are unclear because only Guyger can tell the story, the 26-year-old is gunned down by the Dallas police officer. Guyger’s defense is that she went to the wrong apartment and killed him because she thought he was a burglar.

3. September 9, 2018
After 72 hours, Guyger finally turns herself in. She is charged with manslaughter and released on bond.

4. September 10, 2018
In an affidavit released on Monday, September 10, Guyger claims Botham Jean “ignored” her commands, blaming the victim for his own death. Also, her story changes, the door went from being locked to unlocked. Also, witness come forward saying they heard a woman’s voice saying, “Let me in!” And a man’s voice saying, “Oh, my God. Why did you do that?” right after the sound of a bullet.

5. September 11, 2018
By Tuesday, September 11, it was reported that Guyger now claimed Jean’s door was ajar. A resident proved it was impossible for the doors at the complex to be a jar.

6. September 12, 2018
Protesters shut down a city council meetingm chanting “No justice, no peace.” Mayor Mike Rawlings abruptly ended the meeting.

7. September 13, 2018
On the day of Botham Jean’s funeral, the Dallas police disgustingly released an affidavit saying the there were small traces of marijuana found in his apartment. Lee Merritt, an attorney for Jean’s family, said, “I think it’s unfortunate that law enforcement begin to immediately criminalize the victim — in this case, someone who was clearly was the victim that has absolutely no bearing on the fact that he was shot in his home.”

8. September 14, 2018
In a powerful press conference, Allison Jean, Botham’s mother, rips into the Dallas police department for releasing details that they found marijuana in his home. She said, “The information received yesterday is, to me, worse than the call that I got on the morning of Friday, Sept. 7. To have my son smeared in such a way, I think shows that the persons who are really nasty, who are really dirty and are going to cover up for the devil, Amber Guyger.” She also added, “Give me justice for my son because he does not deserve what he got. I will not sit back and see that justice does not prevail.”

Pertula Redd

9. September 18, 2018

Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall is being slammed by the Jean family and activists for not firing Amber Guyger. However, she says she is “prohibited” from firing her due to “civil service laws” — but she failed to cite the law. Dallas attorney Peter Schulte told ABC 8, “When I read Chief Hall’s statement today, it just doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t know if it’s ignorance or being naive, but it doesn’t make any sense legally.”

10. September 21, 2018
St. Lucia’s Prime Minister Allen Chastanet slams the Dallas police for the handling of the Botham Jean case, saying, “Some people want to go further, that this was home invasion and therefore is subject to capital punishment. Now again, all these things are starting to play out because capital punishment is what the whole world has been trying to convey to us that we should not practice, yet here is a state in America that still practices it.”

He continued, “This is the inconsistency or hypocrisy, if you want to call it that, that exists in the global context that we have to deal with.”

11. September 24, 2018
Guyger is finally fired, when only days before Police Chief Hall said she couldn’t fire her. Nonetheless, Jean family is still asking for justice, they are demanding her charges be changed from manslaughter to murder.

12. September 26, 2018
The family sued the city of Dallas for civil rights violations. According to Fox 4 in Dallas, “The attorneys say the lawsuit will argue that Jean’s civil rights were violated when off-duty Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger mistakenly went to his apartment and shot and killed him, thinking she was encountering an intruder in her apartment.”

13. September 29, 2018
September 29 was Botham Jean’s birthday. He would have been 27. See the video of Rep. Marc Veasey honoring Jean,

14. October 5, 2018
Dallas DA Faith Johnson accused of mishandling the case. She continuously defends herself, telling people to “trust” her. She is also accused of being more focus on reelection rather than charging Guyger with murder.

16. October 17, 2018
In an interview with Jordan Chariton, Jean’s family attorney. Lee Merritt, says there are social media posts with Amber Guyger bragging about being violent. He said, “She bragged about being violent, being short tempered. She bragged about use of force and she spoke out adamantly against things like kneeling [during the anthem] and said the NFL died of ‘Colin’ cancer.” That is an obvious reference to Colin Kaepernick. See one of the posts above.

17. October 19, 2018
Botham Jean’s mother says she has not heard from Trump administration. She says, “What we would like to see is great attention to this case by top government officials in the United States. We have heard nothing from Washington, D.C., and it really gives a feeling that some people just don’t care about lives.”

18. October 22, 2018
Details of the family lawsuit against the city of Dallas revealed. “Jean’s parents say they want their lawsuit to not just focus on how their son died, but to change how police officers are trained about when to fire their weapons,” the Dallas Morning News reported. In addition, “The Jeans also fault [Dallas Police Chief U. Reneé] Hall for turning over the case to the Rangers and say Dallas police should have kept investigating. Hall has said she turned over the case in an effort to be more transparent.” After the backlash, Hall has not commented on the Botham Jean case in weeks.

20. October 29, 2018
On October, 29, Kimberly Williams-De Leon, 42, was shot and killed in her St. Lucia. Allison Jean, Botham’s mother, spoke out in support of her, saying, “He or she must be caught and caught soon. Now. Immediately… The comfort that one gets from first of all knowing that this person who pulled that trigger is in custody – that’s number one comfort. Number two comfort – that the person who did this is held accountable for their actions and that means that they are given a murder charge.” She also said she will fight for a murder charge for Amber Guyger

21. November 6, 2018
On the 2 month anniversary of Botham Jean’s death, Justice for Botham Team committee called on the public to wear red. Committee member Nicole ‘Nikki’ David said, “Amber will never be the same again in her life… Amber knows she did something wrong… Justice will be served.”

23. November 26, 2018

A grand jury began hearing the case. Activists said they would protest if she is not charged with murder.

24. November 30, 2018
A grand jury returned an indictment to charge former police officer Amber Guyger with murder for killing Botham Jean. The panel reportedly decided there was enough evidence to show the manslaughter charges Guyger was initially facing were not strong enough.

25. December 28, 2018

DallasNews.com reports Officer Jared Waddle used pepper-ball against protesters. According to department records, the officer “technically shouldn’t have been able to use a PepperBall gun.” However, officials found, in their preliminary report, that the cop “used the gun in a way that was ‘consistent’ with the department’s general orders.”

26. December 30, 2018
FoxNews4.com reported, Dallas released an “extremely small portion of the Botham Jean incident report after an open records request from FOX4.” Incident reports are usually detailed, however, “in this case, all but the first four sentences, which contain basic information, are blacked out.” Outside of the offense being listed as manslaughter, the majority of the other details were blacked out, including if Guyger was under the influence of alcohol or drugs. A trial is scheduled for Aug. 12.
https://newsone.com/playlist/timeline-amber-guyger-kills-botham-jean/

 

[wyome]

Am I reading that part correctly. Was her family not present during the trial last week at all?
That has to be worded incorrectly. I just can't believe that part at all. I know they can watch on television, but I would think I would want to be there physically for my adult child in those circumstances.

I believe it's correct. But she was out on bond, right? So perhaps staying with her parents and getting support at home? I still can't fathom no family physically being there either.

 

[BeachSky]

Anyone know what segregated lockup looks like? Is it 23 hrs in a cell and one-hour for activity, alone 24/7? Or is there a pocket of other segregated inmates that she would around?

A lot of time to think about what you did IMO

RIP Bo.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

1. August of 2018
Botham Jean moves into South Side Flats apartment complex in Dallas, Texas. He is deeply involved in his church and works for the accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.

2. September 6, 2018
Around 10 p.m., Botham Jean is in his home. While the details are unclear because only Guyger can tell the story, the 26-year-old is gunned down by the Dallas police officer. Guyger’s defense is that she went to the wrong apartment and killed him because she thought he was a burglar.

3. September 9, 2018
After 72 hours, Guyger finally turns herself in. She is charged with manslaughter and released on bond.

4. September 10, 2018
In an affidavit released on Monday, September 10, Guyger claims Botham Jean “ignored” her commands, blaming the victim for his own death. Also, her story changes, the door went from being locked to unlocked. Also, witness come forward saying they heard a woman’s voice saying, “Let me in!” And a man’s voice saying, “Oh, my God. Why did you do that?” right after the sound of a bullet.

5. September 11, 2018
By Tuesday, September 11, it was reported that Guyger now claimed Jean’s door was ajar. A resident proved it was impossible for the doors at the complex to be a jar.

6. September 12, 2018
Protesters shut down a city council meetingm chanting “No justice, no peace.” Mayor Mike Rawlings abruptly ended the meeting.

7. September 13, 2018
On the day of Botham Jean’s funeral, the Dallas police disgustingly released an affidavit saying the there were small traces of marijuana found in his apartment. Lee Merritt, an attorney for Jean’s family, said, “I think it’s unfortunate that law enforcement begin to immediately criminalize the victim — in this case, someone who was clearly was the victim that has absolutely no bearing on the fact that he was shot in his home.”

8. September 14, 2018
In a powerful press conference, Allison Jean, Botham’s mother, rips into the Dallas police department for releasing details that they found marijuana in his home. She said, “The information received yesterday is, to me, worse than the call that I got on the morning of Friday, Sept. 7. To have my son smeared in such a way, I think shows that the persons who are really nasty, who are really dirty and are going to cover up for the devil, Amber Guyger.” She also added, “Give me justice for my son because he does not deserve what he got. I will not sit back and see that justice does not prevail.”

Pertula Redd

9. September 18, 2018

Dallas Police Chief Renee Hall is being slammed by the Jean family and activists for not firing Amber Guyger. However, she says she is “prohibited” from firing her due to “civil service laws” — but she failed to cite the law. Dallas attorney Peter Schulte told ABC 8, “When I read Chief Hall’s statement today, it just doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t know if it’s ignorance or being naive, but it doesn’t make any sense legally.”

10. September 21, 2018
St. Lucia’s Prime Minister Allen Chastanet slams the Dallas police for the handling of the Botham Jean case, saying, “Some people want to go further, that this was home invasion and therefore is subject to capital punishment. Now again, all these things are starting to play out because capital punishment is what the whole world has been trying to convey to us that we should not practice, yet here is a state in America that still practices it.”

He continued, “This is the inconsistency or hypocrisy, if you want to call it that, that exists in the global context that we have to deal with.”

11. September 24, 2018
Guyger is finally fired, when only days before Police Chief Hall said she couldn’t fire her. Nonetheless, Jean family is still asking for justice, they are demanding her charges be changed from manslaughter to murder.

12. September 26, 2018
The family sued the city of Dallas for civil rights violations. According to Fox 4 in Dallas, “The attorneys say the lawsuit will argue that Jean’s civil rights were violated when off-duty Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger mistakenly went to his apartment and shot and killed him, thinking she was encountering an intruder in her apartment.”

13. September 29, 2018
September 29 was Botham Jean’s birthday. He would have been 27. See the video of Rep. Marc Veasey honoring Jean,

14. October 5, 2018
Dallas DA Faith Johnson accused of mishandling the case. She continuously defends herself, telling people to “trust” her. She is also accused of being more focus on reelection rather than charging Guyger with murder.

16. October 17, 2018
In an interview with Jordan Chariton, Jean’s family attorney. Lee Merritt, says there are social media posts with Amber Guyger bragging about being violent. He said, “She bragged about being violent, being short tempered. She bragged about use of force and she spoke out adamantly against things like kneeling [during the anthem] and said the NFL died of ‘Colin’ cancer.” That is an obvious reference to Colin Kaepernick. See one of the posts above.

17. October 19, 2018
Botham Jean’s mother says she has not heard from Trump administration. She says, “What we would like to see is great attention to this case by top government officials in the United States. We have heard nothing from Washington, D.C., and it really gives a feeling that some people just don’t care about lives.”

18. October 22, 2018
Details of the family lawsuit against the city of Dallas revealed. “Jean’s parents say they want their lawsuit to not just focus on how their son died, but to change how police officers are trained about when to fire their weapons,” the Dallas Morning News reported. In addition, “The Jeans also fault [Dallas Police Chief U. Reneé] Hall for turning over the case to the Rangers and say Dallas police should have kept investigating. Hall has said she turned over the case in an effort to be more transparent.” After the backlash, Hall has not commented on the Botham Jean case in weeks.

19. October 22, 2018
Details of the family lawsuit against the city of Dallas revealed. “Jean’s parents say they want their lawsuit to not just focus on how their son died, but to change how police officers are trained about when to fire their weapons,” the Dallas Morning News reported. In addition, “The Jeans also fault [Dallas Police Chief U. Reneé] Hall for turning over the case to the Rangers and say Dallas police should have kept investigating. Hall has said she turned over the case in an effort to be more transparent.” After the backlash, Hall has not commented on the Botham Jean case in weeks.

20. October 29, 2018
On October, 29, Kimberly Williams-De Leon, 42, was shot and killed in her St. Lucia. Allison Jean, Botham’s mother, spoke out in support of her, saying, “He or she must be caught and caught soon. Now. Immediately… The comfort that one gets from first of all knowing that this person who pulled that trigger is in custody – that’s number one comfort. Number two comfort – that the person who did this is held accountable for their actions and that means that they are given a murder charge.” She also said she will fight for a murder charge for Amber Guyger

21. November 6, 2018
On the 2 month anniversary of Botham Jean’s death, Justice for Botham Team committee called on the public to wear red. Committee member Nicole ‘Nikki’ David said, “Amber will never be the same again in her life… Amber knows she did something wrong… Justice will be served.”

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23. November 26, 2018

A grand jury began hearing the case. Activists said they would protest if she is not charged with murder.

24. November 30, 2018
A grand jury returned an indictment to charge former police officer Amber Guyger with murder for killing Botham Jean. The panel reportedly decided there was enough evidence to show the manslaughter charges Guyger was initially facing were not strong enough.

25. December 28, 2018

DallasNews.com reports Officer Jared Waddle used pepper-ball against protesters. According to department records, the officer “technically shouldn’t have been able to use a PepperBall gun.” However, officials found, in their preliminary report, that the cop “used the gun in a way that was ‘consistent’ with the department’s general orders.”

26. December 30, 2018
FoxNews4.com reported, Dallas released an “extremely small portion of the Botham Jean incident report after an open records request from FOX4.” Incident reports are usually detailed, however, “in this case, all but the first four sentences, which contain basic information, are blacked out.” Outside of the offense being listed as manslaughter, the majority of the other details were blacked out, including if Guyger was under the influence of alcohol or drugs. A trial is scheduled for Aug. 12.
A Disturbing Timeline Of Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger Killing Botham Jean In His Own Home