Mrs. Badcrumble
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And Kelle's daughter was born December 29th, 1980, soooo... no.The nose is all wrong.
Kelle's WS thread:
TX - TX- Kelle Fernstrom, 20, Houston, 1980
And Kelle's daughter was born December 29th, 1980, soooo... no.The nose is all wrong.
October 31, 1980 was a Friday. She was killed on a Friday night/Saturday morning.Hi! I just tagged and shared the post with a few people that I’m friends with that were officers on the Ellis Unit at that time. One of them was actually the major over the Ellis training academy while I was there but was a CO for death row while housed at Ellis. I asked him basically if they did spread the story around like stated and what were visitation rules for the unit at that time. The night that she was trying to get directions was a Saturday so maybe she was actually planning to go to Ellis in the morning for visitation hours?!? I’m assuming that since she was just walking around that she had someone to stay with that night and a prepared ride for the next...if she was planning on walking to Ellis from where she was it would probably take her a good 12 hours
She's likely too young for DNA Doe Project - they recently posted an explanation on Facebook about their 'no children' policy.How can our girl be considered for the DNA project?
Melt,71 and Sweetluv, I don't understand the DNA being only for adults, but 15 is not a small child, how are we ever supposed to ID her if we don't use the DNA Doe Project
I take DDP’s policy to mean they don’t take on cases of YOUNG children...like babies and elementary school aged children. Teenagers/young adults are still ok.
IMO
I'm pretty sure that LE themselves have to reach out to DDP and offer up the case to them.Speaking of DNA Doe Project, does anyone know the process of choosing a doe to work on? I'm quite clueless.
Regardless, I hope with all of my heart 2020 is the year we can bring our girl home. We won't give up on you, angel. <3
With their pathetically thin resources, I wouldn't assume this.I'm pretty sure that LE themselves have to reach out to DDP and offer up the case to them.
I'm pretty sure that LE themselves have to reach out to DDP and offer up the case to them.
Yes, that is correct. DNA Doe Project won't take a case unless LE asks them to. If we want Walker County Jane Doe to be taken on by DDP then someone has to contact the Walker County Sheriff or the ME who might have her DNA saved somewhere and request it. Unfortunately, it seems like some LE agencies are resistant to the genetic genealogy method until they see another Doe in their jurisdiction identified with it or hear about it directly from a colleague in another county. WCJD would be an easy case to raise funds for so that should not be an issue. I'm certain that DDP is aware of WCJD's case since Carl K did several sketches of her and he is a DDP volunteer. I have assumed that her age might be the issue but that might not be it-- it might be that LE is resistant or something else is preventing her from becoming a DDP case. Do we know if there is DNA stored for her already or would she have to be exhumed to get fresh DNA? Sometimes that legal red tape of getting a Doe exhumed takes time even if LE wants to have it done.
MOO.
DNA was not successfully extracted from WCJD. To the best of my knowledge, they exhumed her in 1999 and tried a jaw bone, but they couldn't get a decent sample. Not familiar with specifics and if another technique will work. Someone posted on Oct 31st that the DNA sample was too degraded.
It is a bit vague as to what exactly went wrong with her DNA sample. I suppose very few know the details.
It will cost $10,000 to exhume her again. Currently, Walker County does not have an plans.
I thought DNA was available in this case, though? That’s what DoeNetwork says at least.
I'm pretty sure that LE themselves have to reach out to DDP and offer up the case to them.