TX TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 #2 *NAME NOT RELEASED*

[Bit of hope]

Good find! If she were WCJD you'd wonder where she went for those 2 years. It seems to be the consensus that WCJD left her home in Rockport and was murdered not too long after, but anything is possible

I looked very thoroughly in Mary's case because I have thought for a long time that she could be Arroyo Grande Jane Doe. In some pictures it looks like Mary has a tooth gap like AGJD, but that could also be the light. I would be amazed (and very sad) if Mary turns out to be WCJD. All three of them have to go home soon.

 

[Bit of hope]

It is completely possible Mary was a wanderer. She could’ve been living with someone - for all we know she could’gave just traveled to Texas.

How do you know she was a wanderer? My gut feeling says she was a neat girl.

 

[cherrymeg]

Hopefully this works but this is a good article about her.

 

[cherrymeg]

This is interesting.

 

[MOTORUNNER]

This is interesting.

Thanks for the articles. So sad. I would be willing to bet MR was a victim as well, not sure how they haven't found the body yet. Poor girls

 

[Bit of hope]

Hopefully this works but this is a good article about her.

Can't help to wonder why her father wouldn't give any commend and directed to the FBI.

 

[Bit of hope]

This is interesting.

Thankk you CherryM...very helpfull

 

[cherrymeg]

Can't help to wonder why her father wouldn't give any commend and directed to the FBI.

Possibly because of the ransom call and the fact that there was a murderer killing girls around her age.

 

[Jdart14]

Quick questions for those more knowledgeable on the subject than me.....

What percentage of certainty or likeness does the match have to be for them to claim that it is a tentative match?
Once that decision is made, what further steps are taken to prove or disprove the match?

 

[cherrymeg]

This article gives some insight into Mary's family.

 

[Alleykins]

Quick questions for those more knowledgeable on the subject than me.....

What percentage of certainty or likeness does the match have to be for them to claim that it is a tentative match?
Once that decision is made, what further steps are taken to prove or disprove the match?

Oh, boy. These are good questions, but there are no concise answers because every case is unique and handled differently, and there are exceptions. But, here goes: I think in terms of considering potential matches, unless there is a ton of dissimilarities, investigators will usually compare them, but that's just my take on things. I know when I've made suggestions to NamUs, if they weren't sure if a missing person had been compared to a set of remains, they passed it along to investigators to let them decide/handle it.

Here's an article I found which may help with question two.
Forensics, DNA Fingerprinting, and CODIS | Learn Science at Scitable

 

[Jdart14]

Oh, boy. These are good questions, but there are no concise answers because every case is unique and handled differently, and there are exceptions. But, here goes: I think in terms of considering potential matches, unless there is a ton of dissimilarities, investigators will usually compare them, but that's just my take on things. I know when I've made suggestions to NamUs, if they weren't sure if a missing person had been compared to a set of remains, they passed it along to investigators to let them decide/handle it.

Here's an article I found which may help with question two.
Forensics, DNA Fingerprinting, and CODIS | Learn Science at Scitable

Thank you for sharing that’s good stuff. Definitely helps in understanding the DNA approach. I was under the impression that the analysis this decision was based off of was not dna related? Is that correct?

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

I was under the impression that the analysis this decision was based off of was not dna related? Is that correct?

You are correct.

 

[TmmEye]

AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.

 

[Bit of hope]

AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.

please answer my question...how do you know she was a wanderer.....and further more...what made you think Mary could be a match....?

 

[TmmEye]

please answer my question...how do you know she was a wanderer.....and further more...what made you think Mary could be a match....?

When I conducted a genealogical search with some help of NamUs, it brought me some rules outs. I compared the AB genes to some of the genealogical matches, and it eliminated all but one.

 

[sunnynz]

AB genes were used, I make sure to warn ahead of time not always accurate.

Has it been labelled a 'tentative match' by law enforcement or by you?

 

[sunnynz]

According to the Doe network DNA available. According to The Lost and Found DNA submitted, tests complete. The Lost & The Found

Re Does Mary Rodermund have DNA in the database?

So it's not her then right? If they both have DNA in the system they would already have matched.

 

[TmmEye]

Has it been labelled a 'tentative match' by law enforcement or by you?

I contacted LE in December with no response :/

 

[Alleykins]

I'm thinking Mary is ruled out because she does have DNA in the system. It's not 100% guaranteed it's been compared, but most likely has been. That's why I always tell folks when it doubt, submit, but NamUs is replying with canned responses now.