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Perhaps KL asked LE to keep that info private to protect the reputation of JL. MOOI wish we'd hear about the tests conducted on the mj found in Jason's backpack. Is there a valid reason the information would not be made public? I can think of a couple of possible reasons.
No. Not suggesting any of that - just talking about Occam’s Razor.Apologies ahead of time if I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting, however: It's a little ironic to me that you're using Occam's Razor to suggest that an unknown person or persons possibly interacted with Jason beginning at some unknown time for an unknown reason and with an unknown intent to perhaps either cause or to stage his crash and ultimately and for unknown reasons decide to leave not only Jason's possessions but also his clothing behind while they mysteriously removed him/his naked body from the scene so they could take him it with them to some other unknown place. And did so while leaving no evidence of their presence at the crash scene or would have in any way led LE, family, or friends to believe that Jason had had prior contact with anyone like that.
It seems much more straightforward - to *me* anyway - to think that Search & Rescue missed his body.
Ok. Again, I didn't intend to jump to a conclusion about your alternate theory. Any chance you could share which scenario you think is less likely to have occurred than, Jason's Waze app shuts off (LE has stated this happened), Jason continued on thru the intersection where he should have turned (the most likely explanation for ending up on that gravel road), Jason over correcting as he navigated that slight curve in the gravel road (we've seen the pics of his car tracks as they go thru that turn, leave the road, & enter the ditch - it is a classic case of over-correcting). Also, other WS members have shared links of cases where an occupant of a vehicle involved in an accident has ended up with closed head injuries which led to the victims being in an "altered" state which could easily have led to that victim being confused enough for them to not be fully aware of their environment & situation to the extent that it could easily be believed that they did not know where they were at after the accident or they should do next. From there, I have not problem thinking that person might not know where they should go, what they should take with them, if they should stay with their car, or if they should just drop their stuff & try to walk for help. ...and with that level of confusion, yes, it's hard to say what happened. Indont have any problem whatsoever though believing that maybe that person might get cold & tired & just try to find some warm place they could cuddle into until they "rested up" a bit. ...and where it might be really really hard to find them & they succumbed to the head injury or elements.No. Not suggesting any of that - just talking about Occam’s Razor.
Just so we're all on the same page
Occam's razor is a principle from philosophy. Suppose an event has two possible explanations. The explanation that requires the fewest assumptions is usually correct. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation.
There are a lot of assumptions that can be made in this case, explains why there's so many different ideas.. MOOAgreed...in most situations there’s no need to make more assumptions than one needs to.
Although one may be able to come up with a list of assumptions to why something may have occurred, it’s a good idea to look at what’s MOST LIKELY.
Ex: You weren’t able to slow down your car and wrecked. Why?
The most likely reason would be along the lines of your car’s brakes went out/malfunctioned.
Having a secret enemy who cut your brake lines to your car in attempt to injure or kill you is not likely!
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Somehow I missed the photos of Jason’s car tracks that you speak of. Can you please post or provide the location? Thx.
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Somehow I missed the photos of Jason’s car tracks that you speak of. Can you please post or provide the location? Thx.
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There are several photos with the post on the link above. One of those photos is of the tire tracks.
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There are several photos with the post on the link above. One of those photos is of the tire tracks.
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There are several photos with the post on the link above. One of those photos is of the tire tracks.
May I ask what you do think you see? If we're looking at the same photo, I see four tire tracks. ...from the four tires on one car. I've heard various interpretations of what other people see when they look at it though & those perspectives vary.Thank you so much, Milhenn ✌
I did see a photo with a few tire tracks.
Nonetheless, I am among those who commented - on the Sherrifs FB Page - that they didn’t see anything probative.
A possibility for these kind of tracks could be the driver falling asleep...May I ask what you do think you see? If we're looking at the same photo, I see four tire tracks. ...from the four tires on one car. I've heard various interpretations of what other people see when they look at it though & those perspectives vary.
*However*, you specifically said you didn't see anything "prohibitive" so that makes me think you have a possible scenario that you are thinking of that this image doesn't rule out. Somim curious what that scenario you're envisioning is. And I'm wondering what you see in the image here - and maybe how what you see does not "prohibit" your envisioned scenario from having occurred.
I wish I had the right software tools and/or artistic ability to show in a video/animation of what I'm fairly certain happened that caused one car (Jason's car) to create these tracks. I think that would make it much much easier to explain it that way. But sadly, I don't. (At least not at the moment. Maybe I can come up with something - or enlist the help of a friend- in the next few days.)
When I look at the picture, I envision one car driving down the road, and another car passing it on the curve, cutting him off, and both of them going into the ditch. It looks like two different cars to me.May I ask what you do think you see? If we're looking at the same photo, I see four tire tracks. ...from the four tires on one car. I've heard various interpretations of what other people see when they look at it though & those perspectives vary.
AgreePerhaps KL asked LE to keep that info private to protect the reputation of JL. MOO
Perhaps KL asked LE to keep that info private to protect the reputation of JL. MOO
I've heard others say that as well. I think it's hard for some to envision how each of the four wheels on Jason's car are what made each of the four tracks you see in that picture. Many people naturally think of a car driving in a straight line and how that leaves only two sets of tire tracks. However, when a car turns, you start to see how the front tires take a slightly different track than the rear tires. Think for instance how you might turn a corner and sometimes the rear inside tire might bump or hop the curb a little (curb check). Thats because the rear tires take a path that leads slightly closer to the curb.When I look at the picture, I envision one car driving down the road, and another car passing it on the curve, cutting him off, and both of them going into the ditch. It looks like two different cars to me.
I watched the Jonas Brothers story . Once the Jonas Brothers were headed on a secular, rather than religious, musical path, Jonas Sr. , As a Pastor, felt pressure from his church and eventually quit. So yes it is bad on a Pastor, when his own kid do not follow his religious path.Or to protect KL's reputation. A college kid's reputation is a far cry from a Pastor's reputation. JMO