TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

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jjenny said:
I agree with that, but I have seen other articles also claiming Diggs was with Brown.
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I believe N Diggs family would disagree with those articles. It's no secret they are also supporting K Morris (accomplice suspect) who's been charged with the murder of N Diggs.

Just posted new article confirming that police believe JB was the target of the bullet that hit N Diggs.

N Diggs was obviously standing close enough to JB that he was hit, and JB only wounded.

It's pretty clear that N Diggs was collateral damage here. MOO

ETA: JB was wise to this world, and it's possible he purposely aligned himself near N Diggs where he believed he'd be safe from gunfire.
 
GoBuckeyes said:
I'm not sure. I know 2 of the 3 are related. (Nephew and Uncle) Idk if they have family there or not. Anybody recall?
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No, didn't see it. I tried searching for social media accounts, found nothing I could say resembled their mugshots.. Also quite possible they were not using their real names on facebook .
I thought I had found Green but photograph does not resemble mugshot..
Wonder if the 3 have prior arrest records?
 
jjenny said:
I am thinking what really is in trouble is the murder case in which JB was a witness and was shot in the foot. Because it sounds like there he was really going to be a key witness. Not sure that case can even proceed without him.
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Unless they have very clear security footage, bet you're right. The victim is dead. It's been pointed out to me that the shooter is unknown or unnamed or both. And the witness against the 2 accomplices is now dead. :confused::eek:
 
BellaVita said:
Not everyone has changed sides. Some have and more power to them. There's no shame because what you believed may have been wrong or misinformed by those with an agenda, who have ridiculous claims, hoping to incite fury. It takes a big person to come back to the thread and say they didn't think this would be the truth about what happened. There are many posting here this very day who obliquely posted their thoughts. With much more circumspection than the DPD conspiracy theorists. Because those who dared question or state outright that they did not believe DPD to be involved were shot down at every turn. There were blinders on. IMO.
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It's one of those things that no one should have blinders on. You can't say that NO police would ever commit a crime. Nor can you say it's ALWAYS a police set-up. That's too black and white thinking.
Without any suspects, the police don't say, "We're definitely not involved". We hear "We're looking into EVERY scenario".
It is very frustrating when we're not privy to evidence...but until then we're all just guessing.
 
grammieto5 said:
I'm thinking with the drug deal the defense could say JB "could" have been high when he came home from the bar. He did say he took a lift because he knew he wouldn't be able to drive. The defense could say he couldn't be trusted to be testifying truthfully. The defense can appeal on anything, but will it stick. I think the jury should be asked if his testimony played an important part in their decisions for the verdict and sentencing.
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That’s not grounds for an appeal. In order to appeal there has to be a significant error on the application of the law by the judge or misconduct by either attorney.
 
BellaVita said:
I will tell everyone something. One of the big reasons he may have testified. He was told there would be a warrant put out for his arrest. Well, drug dealers do not like the possibility of warrants hanging around out there. Why? Because LE will be looking for them and when LE catches up to them, they may be caught with drugs. No dealer wants an outstanding warrant. Dealers regularly go the courthouse and ask if there are any warrants so they can turn themselves in. At time and place of their own choosing. IME.
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They may CALL the police station to inquire. By going to the courthouse they guarantee being arrested if there is a warrant.
 
Kakidoll said:
I want to know how they found him or got to HIM as a dealer.
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He seemed pretty social media savvy. Josh posted a video of himself rolling a joint. Honestly, I didn't watch the entire video. Perhaps he smoked it too. To me that says he wasn't too worried about someone turning him in. It may have been his way of telling people he had new product. Maybe these guys were a friend of a friend of a friend.
 
Kakidoll said:
Joshua Brown had long criminal history including drug dealing, documents show
"Multiple sources and even some of his acquaintances tell WFAA, Brown was a known drug dealer moving large quantities of drugs and that's what got him in trouble."

And yet Merritt is still blaming DPD in the article... when HE was the one putting out the false information in the beginning that is STILL being spread. Of course now he is working for Brown's family. He truly does chase the money and notoriety, doesn't he.
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How is it that the story was he had one felony drug conviction and I think a misdemeanor for theft? I can't see prosecutors or defense not knowing these things.
 
Falcon500 said:
They may CALL the police station to inquire. By going to the courthouse they guarantee being arrested if there is a warrant.
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You are right, they could call the courthouse before going down. The ones I knew would just go down there and tell a buddy, hey, that's where I'm going in case I need to be bonded out. Being arrested was such a way of life. They didn't plan on running anywhere if there was warrant...if there was, no big deal...just bond out. That's really how it was in this neck of the woods. They would rather be busted when clean than busted by surprise and dirty. IME. Guys really did that.
 
BellaVita said:
How is it that the story was he had one felony drug conviction and I think a misdemeanor for theft? I can't see prosecutors or defense not knowing these things.
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Key words -- JB volunteered he was convicted for misdemeanor theft and felony possession.

News report states he had long record from across the State -- possible he only volunteered his convictions in Dallas County. Much of the time charges filed with a drug arrest are dismissed for guilty plea.

Again --JB wasn't on trial here. Prosecution wanted it out there that JB had a criminal record so defense would not be first to bring it up -- hoping to slam his credibility.

I also recall JB testifying that both he and BR smoked weed. in their apartments. Again -- prosecutor wanted that on record so defense wouldn't attack credibility of their witness, and was clever to include BR with that information.

MOO
 
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jjenny said:
Why exactly prosecution was so keen on JB testifying?
"Joshua Brown was no stranger to police. He was arrested in at least five different cities across Texas."
Joshua Brown had long criminal history including drug dealing, documents show
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Ok, so he was what I would call a career criminal which makes the whole "he was shot in the mouth" and blaming police even worse. Lies like that one can start riots and for what? Over a career criminal whose death had nothing to do at all with the AG trial and police, and then all the lies how he had no enemies. Are you effing kidding me?

MOO
 
Here is what the lawyer claimed right after JB was killed. JB supposedly had no known enemies, and worked for a living (presumably implying what JB did for a living was legal). Seems like not exactly an accurate description, is it? And JB appears to have had a few people who likely aren't crying that he is dead, although as of now that doesn't seem to be connected to his murder.

“She suspects foul play and it is difficult to rule it out,” Merritt wrote. “He had no known enemies. He worked for a living. He was not in the streets. We need answers. Immediately.”
Joshua Brown, key witness in Amber Guyger murder trial and neighbor of Botham Jean, shot to death in Dallas
 
Seattle1 said:
Key words -- JB volunteered he was convicted for misdemeanor theft and possession.

News report states he had long record from across the State -- possible he only volunteered his convictions in Dallas County. Much of the time charges filed with a drug arrest are dismissed for guilty plea.

Again --JB wasn't on trial here. Prosecution wanted it out there that JB had a criminal record so defense would not be first to bring it up -- hoping to slam his credibility.

I also recall JB testifying that both he and BR smoked weed. in their apartments. Again -- prosecutor wanted that on record so defense wouldn't attack credibility of their witness, and was clever to include BR with that information.

MOO
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Also they had both been cited in noise complaints and the complainer has not been identified but was possibly Guyger.. had the evidence swung towards Murder1?That would only have concerned BothamJean though. No evidence was produced proving it was Guyger
 
Falcon500 said:
They may CALL the police station to inquire. By going to the courthouse they guarantee being arrested if there is a warrant.
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The overall point is still understood that drug dealers don't like arrest warrants hanging over their heads.
 
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