Found Deceased TX - Kaytlynn Cargill, 14, Bedford, 19 June 2017 #3 *Arrest*

[jjenny]

... that's why his story is jumbled..he made alot of it up.
The only thing that can be believed are the texts and phone records.

The story being jumbled doesn't have anything to do with the suspect. The suspect isn't admitting to anything (or at least hasn't at the time of the affidavit). The jumbled story comes from a witness police call "source 1."

 

[jjenny]

I think she meant the money she'd get if she made the dabs. So she needed to get the pot from him, so she could make dabs and 'get the money.'

So when she said she was going to 'get the money' ---I think she meant get the pot, which would eventually get her the cash.

That's one possible theory, although it seems to me she would have said she was going to get the pot, not the money, if she was going to get the pot.
And if she hasn't gotten the pot yet, what was the motive? Wouldn't be a dispute over money, since suspect wouldn't have owned her any money.

 

[creepcrusher]

That's one possible theory, although it seems to me she would have said she was going to get the pot, not the money, if she was going to get the pot.
And if she hasn't gotten the pot yet, what was the motive? Wouldn't be a dispute over money, since suspect wouldn't have owned her any money.

Wondering if the suspect and source 1 did not get along after his mother kicked the suspect out of the house. The suspect didn't like source 1 being protective over Kaytlynn, and watching out for her and part of the reason he killed her was for control. To show source 1 he was in control- that he couldn't protect her. It seems like there was some tension between source 1 and the suspect by reading the affidavit. Add to that the suspect had been violent before and is a psychopath (killing her with a hammer). I don't think the suspect ever planned to pay Kaytlynn for the dabs.

 

[katydid23]

That's one possible theory, although it seems to me she would have said she was going to get the pot, not the money, if she was going to get the pot.
And if she hasn't gotten the pot yet, what was the motive? Wouldn't be a dispute over money, since suspect wouldn't have owned her any money.

If she went and asked him assertively, to follow through, and do the deal, it may have angered him. Especially if he had already said NO.

He was a violent person with a bad temper. It wouldn't take much to set him off, obviously. :cry:

 

[jjenny]

Why would it anger him, considering he presumably was the one wanting this deal?

 

[jjenny]

Wondering if the suspect and source 1 did not get along after his mother kicked the suspect out of the house. The suspect didn't like source 1 being protective over Kaytlynn, and watching out for her and part of the reason he killed her was for control. To show source 1 he was in control- that he couldn't protect her. It seems like there was some tension between source 1 and the suspect by reading the affidavit. Add to that the suspect had been violent before and is a psychopath (killing her with a hammer). I don't think the suspect ever planned to pay Kaytlynn for the dabs.

Source one being "protective" sounds like a joke to me. This person was playing basketball while K went alone to meet with the suspect.

 

[katydid23]

Why would it anger him, considering he presumably was the one wanting this deal?

Because he was already angry earlier, when he saw Source#1 lurking nearby. And he rejected the deal at that point.

So why did she suddenly say 'I am going to go and get the $'---? It sounds like there was a disagreement already, which is why she came home empty handed.

So after they already disagreed about something and called it off, she went back and tried to make it work. And he has a violent history so it was bad news.

 

[creepcrusher]

Source one being "protective" sounds like a joke to me. This person was playing basketball while K went alone to meet with the suspect.

Well I definitely wouldn't be surprised if anything that could get Source 1 into legal trouble was left out of the story. I mean, so far Source 1 has made it seem like the only thing he was going to do was split the money with Kaytlynn. All drug dealing communications are between Kaytlynn and the suspect. Yet she's splitting the money with Source 1. Why split the money with Source 1, if she's the only one doing the work?

Because she wasn't the only one IMO. Of course he's leaving things out. CYA.

 

[faw720]

Wondering if the suspect and source 1 did not get along after his mother kicked the suspect out of the house. The suspect didn't like source 1 being protective over Kaytlynn, and watching out for her and part of the reason he killed her was for control. To show source 1 he was in control- that he couldn't protect her. It seems like there was some tension between source 1 and the suspect by reading the affidavit. Add to that the suspect had been violent before and is a psychopath (killing her with a hammer). I don't think the suspect ever planned to pay Kaytlynn for the dabs.

I think you may be onto something. Obviously the suspect & source 1 weren't best buddies or source 1 wouldn't have told police the things that he told them. If source 1 hadn't talked, the police would still be wondering what happened. Either that or source 1 had a conscience & felt guilty about what happened to Kaytlynn and his responsibility for getting them together in the first place. We know that the suspect had no conscience whatsoever or he would never have killed Kaytlynn.

 

[faw720]

Well I definitely wouldn't be surprised if anything that could get Source 1 into legal trouble was left out of the story. I mean, so far Source 1 has made it seem like the only thing he was going to do was split the money with Kaytlynn. All drug dealing communications are between Kaytlynn and the suspect. Yet she's splitting the money with Source 1. Why split the money with Source 1, if she's the only one doing the work?

Because she wasn't the only one IMO. Of course he's leaving things out. CYA.

I suspect that source 1 will face no charges at all or at least lesser charges in exchange for talking to police. JMO or rather just a possible thought.

 

[creepcrusher]

I suspect that source 1 will face no charges at all or at least lesser charges in exchange for talking to police. JMO or rather just a possible thought.

I agree. Very interested to read the suspect's version of events, if he ever talks.

 

[mpnola]

In the beginning, it was said that kids stories were changing and maybe less than truthful. I think our confusion with the story is exactly what their confusion was. But even with questionable details, the evidence laid out for the person he named to be accurate. I think that's what's up here.

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[iscaremyself]

I agree. Very interested to read the suspect's version of events, if he ever talks.

yes, to hear what he's concocted.. if he's dumb enuf to take it to trial and alot of criminals do seem to like going to trial. Hopefully he's tried as an adult and execution is on the table..so the DA offers him a choice, life without or risk it at trial. <modsnip>

 

[jjenny]

Even if he is tried as an adult execution can not be on a table.

 

[katydid23]

In the beginning, it was said that kids stories were changing and maybe less than truthful. I think our confusion with the story is exactly what their confusion was. But even with questionable details, the evidence laid out for the person he named to be accurate. I think that's what's up here.

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Remember, back at the very start, there was talk that she was ' visiting with friends ' and so was not abducted etc. I wonder if Source1 was the source of that rumor that she was hanging with friends?

 

[Vail]

Remember, back at the very start, there was talk that she was ' visiting with friends ' and so was not abducted etc. I wonder if Source1 was the source of that rumor that she was hanging with friends?

I think you're right. I've felt his story is confusing to us because it simply isn't entirely true.

 

[cvaldez1975]

not for nothing. but my step son has traded things for cash since about that age. not drugs thankfully, but he "shops" fb marketplace for items that he can trade for something better or cash. he always meets in public. he has traded replica designer belts, air soft guns, shoes, you name it.

its very sad that a kid is trading or selling weed and getting killed but the trading thing is common.

My brain, my brain..
Why in the world is a fourteen years old middle school athletic young teen making deals to buy pot, turn it into dabs and make profits??? This is crap a long term smoker would dream up, not a fourteen year old girl. Something bad wrong with someone's home life here. I'm not trying to victim blame because God knows smoking pot isn't even close to a first good reason here, but What the freaking heck?!?!
I guess some of you might take offense to this post, I hope you don't. I'm heartbroken for this little girl. It's just that now I really have heard it all. <modsnip>

I'm happy they were on to this sorry murderer from the start and I hope they charge him as an adult. And if his "uncle" helped him in any way, they will get him too.

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[cvaldez1975]

unfortunately im beyond familiar w it, my now 19 year old was into that and he was making it too. I couldn't get him to act right for anything, I had to send himt o live w his father. but then he got cancer.

he is living w a friend, working and not making dabs any longer, thank God. and is in remission.

I agree with you completely - there are no words. I, myself, have just learned of the term "dabs" tonight. What are these kids doing these days?

 

[faw720]

Even if he is tried as an adult execution can not be on a table.

I didn't know that. Why? I don't believe in capital punishment anyway, but just wondered why not.