Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #8 *Arrests*

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GrouchyMom, thank you for a very interesting and enlightening post. You are always so good at explaining things to us.

After reading this, I guess we should look for WM's story #4! The milk story was ridiculous. Agreeing with you, this poor child died due to a severe brain injury.

Now it is a matter of when did she die and the suffering she endured from WM makes me so angry! Why adopt her only to beat her to death? IMO? The eye problem looks like it may have been a lazy eye. Had they ever taken her to a specialist to get a diagnosis? I doubt it as their actions demonstrate that Sherin was a beating post soon after arriving in Texas.

There is one factor we can all smile about. I presume WM and SM have no communication to each other. Therefore, they really don't know what each other is thinking or how the other one is plotting this case out. When the police talk to them, with lawyer present, can LE still stretch the truth by saying Sini is talking and the stories don't match, etc.? Just trying to get WM to break.

 

[citigirl]

Stay safe citigirl, we are following closely and posting resources/updates regularly here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...odes-to-31-000-Acres-150-Structures-Destroyed

Thank you! I will head on over to that thread.

 

[Grouchymom]

GrouchyMom, thank you for a very interesting and enlightening post. You are always so good at explaining things to us.

After reading this, I guess we should look for WM's story #4! The milk story was ridiculous. Agreeing with you, this poor child died due to a severe brain injury.

Now it is a matter of when did she die and the suffering she endured from WM makes me so angry! Why adopt her only to beat her to death? IMO? The eye problem looks like it may have been a lazy eye. Had they ever taken her to a specialist to get a diagnosis? I doubt it as their actions demonstrate that Sherin was a beating post soon after arriving in Texas.

There is one factor we can all smile about. I presume WM and SM have no communication to each other. Therefore, they really don't know what each other is thinking or how the other one is plotting this case out. When the police talk to them, with lawyer present, can LE still stretch the truth by saying Sini is talking and the stories don't match, etc.? Just trying to get WM to break.

Most certainly they can be untruthful and play them off of one another like finely tuned fiddles.

 

[MsFacetious]

Most certainly they can be untruthful and play them off of one another like finely tuned fiddles.

Only if they will talk. If they are pleading the 5th odds are they aren't talking to cops.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Let’s hope the autopsy report is released today. I’m thinking we must be getting close on that?

 

[DakotaMayi]

Let’s hope the autopsy report is released today. I’m thinking we must be getting close on that?

I think, it's been 47 days since she was found.

Natalie whatshername from some news station, WF... something something, said it could take up to 90 days for tox reports. I'm hoping it's nearer 50 than 90.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

BBM

BBM

That phrase, ”she grew cold and stiff” haunts me. I know several have associated it with rigor mortis which can begin within 2 hours of death but that hasn’t clicked with me. Tonight as I was trying to unwind it hit me. Posturing.


The
Posturing can occur minutes to hours before death. There are 3 main types.

Decorticate can occur with hypoxia (oxygen deprivation) from choking but it is uncommon. However is is not uncommon to have vomiting from the traumatic brain injury that causes posturing that results in severe aspiration (inhaling the vomit)



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_posturing

I go back to my theory just after last weeks custody hearing that Sherin suffered a severe brain injury probably with a skull fracture as early as Wednesday evening. She stayed home from pre-school on Thursday that we know for sure and was vomiting. As her brain continued to swell she became sicker, until passing away sometime the evening or night before they reported her missing. After Sherin’s prior fractures had been identified they just could not risk getting her medical care. So they waited thinking perhaps she would get better and no one would ever know. WM speaks of her breathing slowing. And I believe that was possibly Cheyne-Stokes breathing that often comes just before death. I am more convinced than ever that Sherin’s cause of death was a head injury. JMHO


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyne–Stokes_respiration

This is what came to my mind as well. Doing special needs and emergency animal rescue, I have been at the side of suffering and dying cats and dogs many times. What he described took me back to a few things I have witnessed, including massive seizures (which are sometimes caused by head and brain trauma) and other instances where there had been some kind of impact, usually by a car. So this makes sense to me. I've also seen animals seize and straighten their limbs moments before death when there has been no head trauma that I was aware of.

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[Grouchymom]

This is what came to my mind as well. Doing special needs and emergency animal rescue, I have been at the side of suffering and dying cats and dogs many times. What he described took me back to a few things I have witnessed, including massive seizures (which are sometimes caused by head and brain trauma) and other instances where there had been some kind of impact, usually by a car. So this makes sense to me. I've also seen animals seize and straighten their limbs moments before death when there has been no head trauma that I was aware of.

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Hypoxoxia (lack of oxygen) is more likely to cause seizures than posturing which could indeed occur from a severe choking event however, it would have been a different feel or appearance, more of a contraction of muscles than extension (which is how I imagine going stiff) which is why posturing made more sense to me. JMHO

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Hypoxoxia (lack of oxygen) is more likely to cause seizures than posturing which could indeed occur from a severe choking event however, it would have been a different feel or appearance, more of a contraction of muscles than extension (which is how I imagine going stiff) which is why posturing made more sense to me. JMHO

Either way, I also do not believe it was rigor mortis. There are at least a couple of other explanations that make more sense to me.

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[MzOpinion8d]

I second that emotion - I hate them too! I stand by my earlier post that IMO Sini and Wesley thought of Sherin as somehow "lesser" and as each day passes more evidence supporting that opinion comes out.

It's as if Sherin was their Cinderella - there to be a playmate for their bio daughter but not "perfect" enough for her pictures to grace their walls, to be beaten to the point that her little bones broke. Had she lived it wouldn't be surprising if they ended up using her as cheap labor to cook and clean too. All MOO, based on the wretched details we're hearing. What a nightmare Sherin lived!

I try to stay somewhat detached from the cases I follow in order to keep my sanity, but man, sometimes it's really hard! :grouphug: to you all!

Sadly, in many, many cases I've followed where children were murdered, I end up thinking they're better off dead than they were living through the abuse and terror of their home.

Sometimes I wonder (from a Christian viewpoint) if this is actually God's way of saving those precious souls, even though to us humans it is so devastating that the children die.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Sadly, in many, many cases I've followed where children were murdered, I end up thinking they're better off dead than they were living through the abuse and terror of their home.

Sometimes I wonder (from a Christian viewpoint) if this is actually God's way of saving those precious souls, even though to us humans it is so devastating that the children die.

Respectfully, I don’t think God had any hand in this.

 

[Karinna]

Respectfully, I don’t think God had any hand in this.

I agree, because if we purport God is love, then love can have nothing to do with hate. Murder which is killing are hateful acts perpetrated on another human being and so there is nothing godly in that act.

 

[CTHR]

Sadly, in many, many cases I've followed where children were murdered, I end up thinking they're better off dead than they were living through the abuse and terror of their home.

Sometimes I wonder (from a Christian viewpoint) if this is actually God's way of saving those precious souls, even though to us humans it is so devastating that the children die.

It's so difficult ( sometimes near impossible ) to understand the deeper reason behind such despicable acts , ESP towards an innocent child . I believe their journey here in a mortal sense was short because that WAS the plan for that particular precious spirit . Not all lives live to old age , that is certainly a fact . I believe Sherin fulfilled what she was to do here, which in this case has brought attention to not just her own case , but others as well , she sure was not self serving in appearance in her short time here ... that precious smile and the light in her eyes shone thru so much pain and suffering . I believe she touched lives that are forever changed . I know my life has changed due to this case . Every day I am praying and searching for answers and the path to raise awareness in regard to preventing such horrible acts from happening and healing from the sickness that some souls here have fallen into . And crying more tears than I ever thought possible , even coming from abuse and a sadly dysfunctional family , I didn't " see " the actual proportions of this epidemic . In all honesty , I probably still don't .
I believe that those of us who loved her here will very likely see her again in Heaven . I believe she gifted us with a heightened sense of awareness , to combine with the knowledge we have gained and to move forward in her ( and all the others ) honor to save at least one innocent being from what could potentially happen again.
The answers we seek are coming .
JMHO, praying I am not offending anyone reading this post . I am grateful for what I have learned . Grateful for what you know , question and share . Again, JMHO

 

[watergirl62]

Hypoxoxia (lack of oxygen) is more likely to cause seizures than posturing which could indeed occur from a severe choking event however, it would have been a different feel or appearance, more of a contraction of muscles than extension (which is how I imagine going stiff) which is why posturing made more sense to me. JMHO

Sounds similar to the permanent hand curling and /or finger rigidity left over from a stroke (which I see listed in the link).

 

[Margo/Mom]

BBM

BBM

That phrase, ”she grew cold and stiff” haunts me. I know several have associated it with rigor mortis which can begin within 2 hours of death but that hasn’t clicked with me. Tonight as I was trying to unwind it hit me. Posturing.


The
Posturing can occur minutes to hours before death. There are 3 main types.

Decorticate can occur with hypoxia (oxygen deprivation) from choking but it is uncommon. However is is not uncommon to have vomiting from the traumatic brain injury that causes posturing that results in severe aspiration (inhaling the vomit)



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_posturing

I go back to my theory just after last weeks custody hearing that Sherin suffered a severe brain injury probably with a skull fracture as early as Wednesday evening. She stayed home from pre-school on Thursday that we know for sure and was vomiting. As her brain continued to swell she became sicker, until passing away sometime the evening or night before they reported her missing. After Sherin’s prior fractures had been identified they just could not risk getting her medical care. So they waited thinking perhaps she would get better and no one would ever know. WM speaks of her breathing slowing. And I believe that was possibly Cheyne-Stokes breathing that often comes just before death. I am more convinced than ever that Sherin’s cause of death was a head injury. JMHO


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyne–Stokes_respiration

I concur--and you have laid out an excellent case. The rigor mortis timing had bothered me as well.

 

[Margo/Mom]

GrouchyMom, thank you for a very interesting and enlightening post. You are always so good at explaining things to us.

After reading this, I guess we should look for WM's story #4! The milk story was ridiculous. Agreeing with you, this poor child died due to a severe brain injury.

Now it is a matter of when did she die and the suffering she endured from WM makes me so angry! Why adopt her only to beat her to death? IMO? The eye problem looks like it may have been a lazy eye. Had they ever taken her to a specialist to get a diagnosis? I doubt it as their actions demonstrate that Sherin was a beating post soon after arriving in Texas.

There is one factor we can all smile about. I presume WM and SM have no communication to each other. Therefore, they really don't know what each other is thinking or how the other one is plotting this case out. When the police talk to them, with lawyer present, can LE still stretch the truth by saying Sini is talking and the stories don't match, etc.? Just trying to get WM to break.

I don't anticipate any further stories from WM. Not unless he and his team decide to testify against Sini (creating reasonable doubt should he be charged with causing Sherin's death--as opposed to not preventing it).

I am guessing a lot will depend on what the charges are at the end of the day and what decisions are made with regard to charging them together or individually.

He is already on record admitting to sufficient acts to send him away for life--and it is pretty hard to see how anything he can say now can change that reality for him. End of the day he was there (not only the day of Sherin's death but all the days leading up to it) and has admitted to acts of commission and omission. Thus far his attorney has been adamant with regard to both parties claiming spousal privilege in order to avoid testimony against each other (recall that on day one it was WM's attorney who interrupted to prevent Sini from answering a question by pointing out that she had spousal privilege--and the prosecution was busy looking it up in the law book, until she rendered the point moot by pleading the fifth in answer to the question).

My legal knowledge comes mostly from watching Law & Order. Does anyone know how the decision to try the parties together or separately might come about? Seems as if the state makes a decision to try the parties together, but then one or the other party can move to have the cases severed? Anyone?

 

[Margo/Mom]

This is what came to my mind as well. Doing special needs and emergency animal rescue, I have been at the side of suffering and dying cats and dogs many times. What he described took me back to a few things I have witnessed, including massive seizures (which are sometimes caused by head and brain trauma) and other instances where there had been some kind of impact, usually by a car. So this makes sense to me. I've also seen animals seize and straighten their limbs moments before death when there has been no head trauma that I was aware of.

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Reminded me of early polio treatment. The standard of care was originally to respond to stiffened/spasming limbs by immobilizing them. Then (according to the movie with Rosalind Russell) Sister Kenny developed a theory which sounds a lot like described in Grouchymom's post, accounting for the stiffness as being a spasm in the stronger of two opposing muscle groups. Immobilizing further weakened the weaker muscle--and added atrophy of the stronger half of the pair. She initiated exercises designed to work out the spasm and strengthen the weaker muscle. Took a long time to convince the medical community.

 

[Margo/Mom]

Sadly, in many, many cases I've followed where children were murdered, I end up thinking they're better off dead than they were living through the abuse and terror of their home.

Sometimes I wonder (from a Christian viewpoint) if this is actually God's way of saving those precious souls, even though to us humans it is so devastating that the children die.

As an adoptive parent (and a Christian) I have sometimes wondered what God can be thinking when some children land in hideous circumstances--particularly when there are families who would love to provide them with something far different. I personally think God takes a much broader view than ours. We have a planet with the capability of sustaining everyone and everything in it. And hands to us the responsibility of care. As a planet we frequently fall short. Because, we are not God, but human. But we have to keep working at it.

Totally OT. Peace on Earth.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

As an adoptive parent (and a Christian) I have sometimes wondered what God can be thinking when some children land in hideous circumstances--particularly when there are families who would love to provide them with something far different. I personally think God takes a much broader view than ours. We have a planet with the capability of sustaining everyone and everything in it. And hands to us the responsibility of care. As a planet we frequently fall short. Because, we are not God, but human. But we have to keep working at it.

Totally OT. Peace on Earth.

Or there is just some disgusting human beings out there.

 

[fridaybaker]

As an adoptive parent (and a Christian) I have sometimes wondered what God can be thinking when some children land in hideous circumstances--particularly when there are families who would love to provide them with something far different. I personally think God takes a much broader view than ours. We have a planet with the capability of sustaining everyone and everything in it. And hands to us the responsibility of care. As a planet we frequently fall short. Because, we are not God, but human. But we have to keep working at it.

Totally OT. Peace on Earth.

What is God thinking when children land in hideous circumstances? He's weeping. (If one can apply some sort of equivalence between God and the human condition.) Weeping that those whom he loved enough to create in His image and likeness, giving them free will, have used that free will for destruction.