TX - Student opens fire at Timberview High School; 4 hurt, Arlington, 6 Oct 2021 *guilty*

[MrsWatson]

The video of the fight before the shooting is awful. The shooter is being just pummeled. Not that it justifies coming after his attacker with a gun in any way.

MOO

 

[MrsWatson]

Family of 15-year-old shot during classroom fight say 'sweet and caring child' fighting for his life | Daily Mail Online

'The unfortunate backstory is that Timothy's father was brutally beaten to death. This fact definitely heightened Timothy’s fear for his life.

'Not to mention that the young man responsible for beating and harassing him had recently made threats to kill him so you see, my son was terrified and believed he would be murdered just like his father.

'I believe my son's entire story should be heard and I am asking that you help me share it in an effort to balance the one-sided narrative that the media is broadcasting.

'Please know that I am not suggesting that taking a gun to school was the right choice to make, I am just saying that there is so much more to the story and all of the details should be known.'

 

[dotr]

''Raw Video: Alleged Timberview High School Shooter Timothy Simpkins Released From Tarrant County Jail''

 

[Gardenista]

I'm just reading all of these articles and watching these videos and rolling my eyes.

 

[nightowl1975]

Is the shooter the kid in the white shirt or the dark shirt? If he’s the one in the white shirt….

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

Kids these days, ugh....................

 

[MrsWatson]

Is the shooter the kid in the white shirt or the dark shirt? If he’s the one in the white shirt….

White shirt.

 

[nightowl1975]

White shirt.

I suspected as much.

From what is known at this point, I can’t say I would recommend a lengthy sentence for the shooter. It never should’ve gotten to that point, of course, but it did. And I have no doubt the kid in the white shirt feared for his life, even after the fight was technically broken up. Clearly the adults in the situation weren’t protecting him.

Perhaps more info will come out to change my mind, but at this point, I can’t say I feel terrible for the kid in the ICU.

 

[MikeF]

The shooter had the crap kicked out of him before this incident. I have seen the video and it was awful. I am not saying the gun was the correct solution. I am saying that being physically controlled by another person, having absolutely no ability to defend yourself or get away is very hard to deal with. I wish something had been done before this fight.

I'm late to the thread, but I saw a comment from his family that at some point (earlier in time, like maybe days or weeks?) Simpkins had his clothes stolen leaving him naked in front of his classmates. And I'm sorry but that beat down was horrible. I'm just glad no one was killed.

 

[dotr]

 

[Charlot123]

I remember how in the Columbine, when all the lawsuit were settled and we finally could read all about the case, I was shocked at the horrible style of the school. At its administration. How the principal and the teachers supported the jocks, how Harris and Klebold were bullied by the schoolmates (it even got on one of their videos), how they were once squirted with tomato sauce and had to walk around like this till the end of the school day.

And much as their horrible recoil landed on people who were not at fault (everyone later said that had they killed the jocks, especially one, they’d be understood), I was thinking, everyone snaps at the end.

Doesn’t what happened to Simpkins sound like a deja vu?

Hadn’t the time come to look at the administration of the Timberview HS and their role in creating the bullying, unhealthy, school atmosphere?

After all, we send out kids to school to be educated, not beaten up, bullied or robbed.

 

[neue]

[Fundraising Site] removes page set up by Arlington school shooter's family asking for $25,000 because HE'S 'traumatized' - two days after he shot a 15-year-old AND a teacher
[Fundraising Site] removes page set up by Arlington school shooter's family | Daily Mail Online

I have a number of questions about this story, including:
- Until recently, Simpkins attended private school. What was the reason for the change to public school?
- If Simpkins was beaten up for being so "rich" (per the family), why the need for public fundraising?
- Did Simpkins' family contact police when he was allegedly assaulted, robbed and stripped, a few weeks ago?
-How long was he driving around with the gun in his car, that appears to be actually pictured in at least one of his social media posts? Who knew he had a gun?

 

[Charlot123]

[Fundraising Site] removes page set up by Arlington school shooter's family asking for $25,000 because HE'S 'traumatized' - two days after he shot a 15-year-old AND a teacher
[Fundraising Site] removes page set up by Arlington school shooter's family | Daily Mail Online

I have a number of questions about this story, including:
- Until recently, Simpkins attended private school. What was the reason for the change to public school?
- If Simpkins was beaten up for being so "rich" (per the family), why the need for public fundraising?
- Did Simpkins' family contact police when he was allegedly assaulted, robbed and stripped, a few weeks ago?
-How long was he driving around with the gun in his car, that appears to be actually pictured in at least one of his social media posts? Who knew he had a gun?

There is no reason for the change of school given, but this article mentions his father being beaten to death, his mother ending behind bars and him moving in with GM. Perhaps a combination of these factors? I assume that if until recently he had a full family, its financial situation was better, and some of the nice things could be from old times? This is my opinion.

Arlington school shooting suspect excelled in studies despite bullying, family says

 

[neue]

There is no reason for the change of school given, but this article mentions his father being beaten to death, his mother ending behind bars and him moving in with GM. Perhaps a combination of these factors? I assume that if until recently he had a full family, its financial situation was better, and some of the nice things could be from old times? This is my opinion.

Arlington school shooting suspect excelled in studies despite bullying, family says

Tim and his sister were living with his grandmother as of 2012. Perhaps they had moved back in with the mother at some point, but they certainly had lived with the grandmother before: "Per the Dallas Morning News, "Timothy and his sister, now 22, both lived with their grandmother Lillie Simpkins, 67, in 2012, according to a Tarrant County family court document. The parents were at the time separated, and the attorney general’s child support unit was attempting to determine the mother’s ability to pay child support."

The family says that Tim was a straight-A student, a "nerd", quiet and never hurt anyone. The family says he was bullied, depressed, and that the school was aware of the situation. The family also says that his publicly unnamed father was beaten to death, something The Dallas Morning News was not able to confirm. I am looking forward to seeing whether what his family says is corroborated by any facts or witnesses, because right now I see a lot of people implying that shooting victim was at fault based on a short video clip and the shooter's family's statements.

I also wonder if Tim had any injuries due to this "brutal" attack because none are visible on his booking photo, nor the video of him being released from jail, nor the Snapchat of him hanging out with his family after release. It also does not appear that he received any medical treatment.

MOO.

 

[neue]

Simpkins family spokesperson Carol Harrison-Lafayette has a background as an organizer and in 2017 described her own experience in a Dallas Ft. Worth hospital as "brutal" and "traumatizing", the same words that she used to describe Tim's experiences prior to the shooting.

Per the report above, Harrison-Lafayette retained civil rights attorney Lee Merritt to sue the hospital. I think this gives insight as to why the family retained civil attorney Kim T. Cole, rather than a criminal defense attorney. Harrison-Lafayette seems very experienced in mobilizing public sentiment; she also organized protests in the Atatiana Jefferson killing, as well as after the killing of George Floyd.

This is going to be very interesting and I hope the shooter's team's media-savvy does not trump the facts, whatever those may be. MOO.

 

[tara83]

I'm speechless at the statement about not feeling too bad for the boy in ICU.Seriously???

 

[Charlot123]

The family says that Tim was a straight-A student, a "nerd", quiet and never hurt anyone. The family says he was bullied, depressed, and that the school was aware of the situation. The family also says that his publicly unnamed father was beaten to death, something The Dallas Morning News was not able to confirm. I am looking forward to seeing whether what his family says is corroborated by any facts or witnesses, because right now I see a lot of people implying that shooting victim was at fault based on a short video clip and the shooter's family's statements.
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Respectfully snipped.

If Tim, indeed, was a straight-A student and a “nerd”, plus a new kid on the block, perhaps the story is too common? And if, indeed, he was previously attacked by the group, maybe he had the reason to be scared for his life?

How many times we have heard, from schools, that “they were very serious in enforcing anti-bullying policy”? But nothing changed? And then it would change, but usually it took a big case to look into the school policy, and how it was enforced?

I wonder - because this is, actually, the first year when kids are fully at school, why didn’t school offer a good student who struggled socially, to finish the year remotely? Or did TX not enforce anti-Covid measures last year? (If it did, all the equipment for remote learning should have been in place).

P.S. the same newspaper, Dallas Morning News, stated that his mother was behind bars and father beaten to death, “According to the family and court records”

 

[Charlot123]

I'm speechless at the statement about not feeling too bad for the boy in ICU.Seriously???

I don’t know who said it, anyone here? Or the relatives.

Personally, I also feel very sorry for the teacher who tried to break the fight and got into the hospital. He was a hero in the situation. And the pregnant woman, and the girl on the receiving end. All traumatized, physically or emotionally…

Arlington police confirm Timberview fight video, claims of bullying part of shooting investigation

 

[neue]

Respectfully snipped.

If Tim, indeed, was a straight-A student and a “nerd”, plus a new kid on the block, perhaps the story is too common? And if, indeed, he was previously attacked by the group, maybe he had the reason to be scared for his life?

How many times we have heard, from schools, that “they were very serious in enforcing anti-bullying policy”? But nothing changed? And then it would change, but usually it took a big case to look into the school policy, and how it was enforced?

I wonder - because this is, actually, the first year when kids are fully at school, why didn’t school offer a good student who struggled socially, to finish the year remotely? Or did TX not enforce anti-Covid measures last year? (If it did, all the equipment for remote learning should have been in place).

P.S. the same newspaper, Dallas Morning News, stated that his mother was behind bars and father beaten to death, “According to the family and court records”

The Dallas Morning News article stated, "Details of the father’s death were not immediately available."

I've not been able to find any identification of the father's name, his date of death or manner of death. Was he beaten to death as an innocent victim, or in the course of mutual combat, or in the commission of a crime, or while incarcerated? We don't know. I can't tie either the mother's surname (Roberson) or Tim's surname (Simpkins) to anyone who seems to have suffered this fate since 2012. I also can't find an obituary related to such a person online. I'm definitely not expressing skepticism that the father suffered a violent death; just pointing out that the DMN is saying they have no details and I can't find details either. If this is going to be a keystone in Tim's defense, I'm sure we will learn more about it at his trial.

A nerd being picked on is indeed all too common. It's also all too common for a guy to get bested in a fight and come back to shoot the person who beat him up. So what if he wasn't bullied? Law enforcement hasn't confirmed that he was bullied, nor has the school, nor the school district, nor have I seen any corroboration from kids at the school. What if he was engaged in mutual back-and-forth?

In the video, Zaccheus repeatedly asks, "So I'm a [h--]?!" while pummeling Tim. Given that rhetorical question, it seems that Tim apparently referred to a him using a slur for a sex worker. Is this the manner of a scared, straight A nerd; to antagonize another boy by calling him a prostitute?

There's nothing in approved media saying that he wasn't a straight-A student and a nerd, and I won't reference social media. However, his now-deleted Instagram pictures that do appear in MSM show him with what was apparently a gun, a mouth full of gold grills making obscene gestures while posing with his car. People contain multitudes but that doesn't seem like a retiring, shy nerd *to me*. Perhaps he and Zaccheus did not like each other for various reasons. Maybe some of those reasons involved bad behavior on both people's part. MOO.

 

[dotr]

Timberview High School students return to class for first time since shooting
Oct 12 2021 rbbm.
''ARLINGTON, Texas - It’s back to class today for students at Timberview High School in Arlington where there was a shooting on campus.

Timberview is in the city of Arlington but in the Mansfield Independent School District. The superintendent said safety and security protocols for the entire district are being thoroughly reviewed.

"We do have a safety and security expert with us on staff. He has been with us for over a year, and he will be an integral part as we move forward and looking at any gaps that may exist within our safety and security protocols," said Superintendent Dr. Kimberley Cantu.

Mansfield ISD said there will be a heightened police presence on the Timberview campus until further notice.''

''One of the injured students, 15-year-old Zaccheus Selby, is still in the hospital after being shot multiple times. But his condition is now listed as good.


Teacher Calvin Petit was also shot and is home from the hospital''.