PictureSnatcher
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I think a) a John or b) a pimp or driver
Another crazy theory if I let my mind wander, given the small stature and jaw wiring i was thinking he could have been trans and in the early stages of transitioning and underwent some sort of face feminizing procedure where they had to alter the jaw/mandible. It wouldn't explain why he was found in men's clothing though. Unless he was redressed by the killer, which some people have mentioned happening to Asian male (although I personally don't think it makes sense) but ya, far fetched I'm sure. Just throwing it out there
Hi potato, so first let's look at John. It's possible he was a john, but what's the scenario where someone kills an escort and her client, and both remain unidentified. If you were randomly pick any escort in New York right in the middle of their latest transaction, you are almost guaranteed that that john is going to be a family man with a wife and kids, or atleast an average joe who is living on the grid. Johnny Monger out for milk.
A pimp, even he has a stable of girls who is going to report big daddy missing. And does this scrawny John Doe sound like he could be protecting anyone?
Drivers I feel like are a misunderstood phenomenon here on the websleuths LISK forum. Since Shannan had one one, posters are always assuming they are common. It seems like the girls who use drivers are the girls who work for escort agencies, where everything is "legit" and if they went missing on a call would be reported. A lot of girls either do incalls, work the street or drive a car themselves. In Melissa's case I think her pimp drove her to outcalls.
So a john, driver, or pimp..eh. Here is where Asian male helps us. Look at Tirrel Santiago's disappearance, he's young gay teenager dressing and going by a female name hanging out on the gay street New York. We don't know yet if he was prostituting himself, looking for a sugar daddy, just looking to meet up with someone for sex. But look, don't buy the ******** about the serial killer accidently picking up Tirrel. The serial killer likes males. And this is what will tell you who males are. They are either male prostitutes, and in this case it could be understood why we haven't found missing persons that match them. It's possible they were trans, or males dressing as females but all we know is two were wearing men's boxer shorts. Or they were gay men who weren't sex workers but perhaps meeting up with another man for sex. Still if you were to randomly pick any gay male in NY, what are the chances he isn't going to be reported missing and have a missing persons report we can find? So what demographic of gay males would have no missing persons report, is essentially the important question.