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He really is, wonder how many more murdered women he is responsible for.
GUILTY UK - Alena Grlakova, 38, The Travellers' Inn pub, Rotherham, 26 Dec 2018 + Samantha Class Retrial
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I don’t think we’ll ever find out unfortunately, don’t think he’ll bother coughing to more rapes, attacks and murders, he won’t get out again after this, but stranger things have happened.....
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>The officer also warned people to be careful what they said on social media to avoid prejudicing the live court case.
>"I would ask that people are mindful of what they are posting on social media, to allow the case to progress through the courts unhindered,” he said.
>"Speculation as to any details of the case could potentially harm the investigation.
>"You could also find yourself in contempt of court, which can result in a fine or up to two years in prison."
Did they just threaten us with two years in prison for discussing this case on social media?
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I think this is because locally the were photos of him, his home and his name all over Facebook when he got arrested, not to mention his past.
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Hi LB, was there any reason given for the delay? The article is behind a pay wall.
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Hi Chimpface, not sure, I didn't want to pay 20p either. Probably coronavirus?
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Trial underway and also retrial for the murder of Samantha Class.
Man with 'deep-seated' hatred for sex workers 'murdered Rotherham mum'
Man with 'deep-seated' hatred for sex workers 'murdered Rotherham mum'
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THE LAW COURTS WEST BAR SHEFFIELD
Court 1 - sitting at 10:30 am
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE GOOSE
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Trial (Part Heard)
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Wondered about reporting restrictions, very little information has been coming out about the case and as far as I am aware yesterday was the first time it was mentioned publicly about the retrial for Samantha Class.
I suspect this will slip under the radar a bit and not attract the audiences that some trials do on here but I think it is going to be an interesting one.
I suspect this will slip under the radar a bit and not attract the audiences that some trials do on here but I think it is going to be an interesting one.
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Live reporting from Hull Daily Mail, trial expected to last 14 weeks:
09:35NATHAN STANDLEY
Recap: Allen searched 'how to commit perfect murder'
A man accused of strangling two sex workers searched online for “ways to commit the perfect murder,” the court heard yesterday.
Gary Arthur Allen's "pertinent" phone search came back with a response about the “common traits of serial killers”.
Sheffield crown court heard the accused has a “deep-seated” hatred of sex workers and told probation officers he liked to “make them cry” and "enjoyed hurting people".
Prosecutor Alistair MacDonald said after Alena's body was found in April 2019, officers searched Allen's home and found a broken mobile phone.
“A search had been made for ‘ways to commit the perfect murder’ which produced a web response about most common traits of serial killers," he said.
“A search had been made for ‘Murdered female’ which produced a response about girls attacked when sleeping.”
Read the full story here.
09:36NATHAN STANDLEY
Today's proceedings
Today's hearing is due to begin between 10am and 10.30am. It will be the third day of the trial so far.
10:12SOPHIE CORCORAN
Day 3 due to start at 10.30
It is expected the trial will last 14 weeks.
11:05NATHAN STANDLEY
Mr Grlakova reported estranged wife missing
Prosecuting Mr Gelsthorpe is telling the court a statement was made to the police from Mr Grlakova when he reported his estranged wife missing. He said his last sighting was on Christmas Eve 2018.
The statement said Alena didn’t have anything on her that night.
Her estranged husband said: “At around 2.30am I took myself upstairs and let her sleep downstairs. Alena fell asleep, I came down at around 4am. I did not sleep at all and around 7am I went into the living room and she was awake. She said she wanted to go home to Slovakia and sort herself out and find her way back to her children."
11:14NATHAN STANDLEY
'She spent time with the children... then I never saw her again'
Mr Grlakova said: “She told me everything that had happened to her. She said her friend had her ID card and her bank card. I wanted the woman’s address as I suggested I would go get her things. I allowed her to stay at mine with me and the kids as it was the festive period.
"Alena told me her two friends organised frauds in her name, taking out various loans in her name and made her sell drugs and sell herself to men, prostitute her and they would pretend she would supply drugs to a juvenile and he would fall ill and they would say it was her doing. She said they kicked her and she was in pain for a very long time.
“Alena said the friend and her mother were involved with some people who would do anything for money. Alena said she would go back to her friends, get her stuff and steal her documents and come back to mine. She spent time with the children. She left saying she would get her documents. I never saw her again. I didn’t know the address, she didn’t give it to me.”
11:15NATHAN STANDLEY
Alena's relationship with her husband broke down in 2013
The court has heard Alena met her husband when he was 17. Her estranged husband said she met the woman she had mentioned as a friend at work and began going out more and the couple started to have troubles in 2013 and they split up.
He said: “She did not talk to me at all when we split up. She rented a flat and she had no contact with the children.”
The court is hearing from a friend of Alena’s, Danielle Kozarova - otherwise known asDanka - who is also the cousin of Lucie Zimova, one of the friends Alena is said to have mentioned to her husband.
Prosecutor Alistair MacDonald told the court in his opening on Monday that Lucie and Alena’s relationship turned intimate.
11:58NATHAN STANDLEY
Alena 'spoke with factory worker who lived near Tesco'
Danka has told the court she saw Alena on December 19 at around 7pm when Alena visited her in Rotherham.
She said that one day Alena had a phone conversation with a man who she said she would meet at Aldi. Danka said Alena used her phone to make the call as she had “run out of credit.” She said sometimes when Alena was not there she would get calls from “Asian men” asking for her. She said they would ask for her Facebook name, rather than Alena.
In her statement, Danka said: “There is also an English man Alena has spoken to, who worked in a factory and lives near a Tesco in Rotherham.” She said the man was in his 50s and when she spoke to him he said “come to my pub and chill with me.”
Danka said Alena told her the man was “good” and “a friend” and had given her a job.
She said December 19 was the last time she saw Alena.
She said that after Alena had gone missing she spoke with the same man and she asked if Alena was there.
Giving her evidence, Danka said: “He said she had been there the day before. He said, ‘come round’ to his flat. He was not nice, I swore at him. I stopped the call. He called me back, I think two times. He said, ‘come round.’ I said no and he swore at me again.”
Danka said she hung up both times.
12:31SOPHIE CORCORAN
Alena had 'problems' with partner
Danka told the court that Lucie and Alena were together for two years and at first things were "good" but their relationship turned bad.
She said: “I used to look after Alena when they were fighting. Jealous, you know. Sometimes, just arguing and sometimes they would hit each other, slapping like.
Danka said on Boxing Day she had a conversation with her parner and thought there were difficulties in her cousin's relationship as she had spoken with Alena on Christmas Day night.
Danka said Lucie told her she had been fighting with Alena and asked her to go and look for her. She said the pair went to another friend’s house and Lucie told she had “given Alena a good beating.” She said the three went to look for Alena.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
09:35NATHAN STANDLEY
Recap: Allen searched 'how to commit perfect murder'
A man accused of strangling two sex workers searched online for “ways to commit the perfect murder,” the court heard yesterday.
Gary Arthur Allen's "pertinent" phone search came back with a response about the “common traits of serial killers”.
Sheffield crown court heard the accused has a “deep-seated” hatred of sex workers and told probation officers he liked to “make them cry” and "enjoyed hurting people".
Prosecutor Alistair MacDonald said after Alena's body was found in April 2019, officers searched Allen's home and found a broken mobile phone.
“A search had been made for ‘ways to commit the perfect murder’ which produced a web response about most common traits of serial killers," he said.
“A search had been made for ‘Murdered female’ which produced a response about girls attacked when sleeping.”
Read the full story here.
09:36NATHAN STANDLEY
Today's proceedings
Today's hearing is due to begin between 10am and 10.30am. It will be the third day of the trial so far.
10:12SOPHIE CORCORAN
Day 3 due to start at 10.30
It is expected the trial will last 14 weeks.
11:05NATHAN STANDLEY
Mr Grlakova reported estranged wife missing
Prosecuting Mr Gelsthorpe is telling the court a statement was made to the police from Mr Grlakova when he reported his estranged wife missing. He said his last sighting was on Christmas Eve 2018.
The statement said Alena didn’t have anything on her that night.
Her estranged husband said: “At around 2.30am I took myself upstairs and let her sleep downstairs. Alena fell asleep, I came down at around 4am. I did not sleep at all and around 7am I went into the living room and she was awake. She said she wanted to go home to Slovakia and sort herself out and find her way back to her children."
11:14NATHAN STANDLEY
'She spent time with the children... then I never saw her again'
Mr Grlakova said: “She told me everything that had happened to her. She said her friend had her ID card and her bank card. I wanted the woman’s address as I suggested I would go get her things. I allowed her to stay at mine with me and the kids as it was the festive period.
"Alena told me her two friends organised frauds in her name, taking out various loans in her name and made her sell drugs and sell herself to men, prostitute her and they would pretend she would supply drugs to a juvenile and he would fall ill and they would say it was her doing. She said they kicked her and she was in pain for a very long time.
“Alena said the friend and her mother were involved with some people who would do anything for money. Alena said she would go back to her friends, get her stuff and steal her documents and come back to mine. She spent time with the children. She left saying she would get her documents. I never saw her again. I didn’t know the address, she didn’t give it to me.”
11:15NATHAN STANDLEY
Alena's relationship with her husband broke down in 2013
The court has heard Alena met her husband when he was 17. Her estranged husband said she met the woman she had mentioned as a friend at work and began going out more and the couple started to have troubles in 2013 and they split up.
He said: “She did not talk to me at all when we split up. She rented a flat and she had no contact with the children.”
The court is hearing from a friend of Alena’s, Danielle Kozarova - otherwise known asDanka - who is also the cousin of Lucie Zimova, one of the friends Alena is said to have mentioned to her husband.
Prosecutor Alistair MacDonald told the court in his opening on Monday that Lucie and Alena’s relationship turned intimate.
11:58NATHAN STANDLEY
Alena 'spoke with factory worker who lived near Tesco'
Danka has told the court she saw Alena on December 19 at around 7pm when Alena visited her in Rotherham.
She said that one day Alena had a phone conversation with a man who she said she would meet at Aldi. Danka said Alena used her phone to make the call as she had “run out of credit.” She said sometimes when Alena was not there she would get calls from “Asian men” asking for her. She said they would ask for her Facebook name, rather than Alena.
In her statement, Danka said: “There is also an English man Alena has spoken to, who worked in a factory and lives near a Tesco in Rotherham.” She said the man was in his 50s and when she spoke to him he said “come to my pub and chill with me.”
Danka said Alena told her the man was “good” and “a friend” and had given her a job.
She said December 19 was the last time she saw Alena.
She said that after Alena had gone missing she spoke with the same man and she asked if Alena was there.
Giving her evidence, Danka said: “He said she had been there the day before. He said, ‘come round’ to his flat. He was not nice, I swore at him. I stopped the call. He called me back, I think two times. He said, ‘come round.’ I said no and he swore at me again.”
Danka said she hung up both times.
12:31SOPHIE CORCORAN
Alena had 'problems' with partner
Danka told the court that Lucie and Alena were together for two years and at first things were "good" but their relationship turned bad.
She said: “I used to look after Alena when they were fighting. Jealous, you know. Sometimes, just arguing and sometimes they would hit each other, slapping like.
Danka said on Boxing Day she had a conversation with her parner and thought there were difficulties in her cousin's relationship as she had spoken with Alena on Christmas Day night.
Danka said Lucie told her she had been fighting with Alena and asked her to go and look for her. She said the pair went to another friend’s house and Lucie told she had “given Alena a good beating.” She said the three went to look for Alena.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
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12:32SOPHIE CORCORAN
'Beating' before Alena went missing
Danka has told the court that Lucie told her she struck Alena’s head with her knee during an incident before she went missing.
In her statement said: “Lucie said Alena slapped her and Lucie’s mouth bled.She said she took Alena’s coat and shoes off her as she bought them for her and said she took everything from her and she left with slippers on. Lucie said she thought she was hiding at Villiam’s house.”
Danka has confirmed that the conversation took place before Alena’s body was found in April 2019. She said she has not had contact with Lucie or her aunt, because of Alena, but also because of her “own problems.”
12:36SOPHIE CORCORAN
Statement from man who spent time with Alena
A man, who has since died, told officers he had spent time with Alena after meeting her in June 2018.
In a statement read out to the court the man said he was approached for a cigarette while he was sat outside a pub in Swinton. He said he offered to buy the woman - who said her name was Alena - a drink but instead she asked for a bottle of whiskey and for the pair to drink it at his house.
The man said they went back to his and they had sex and the next time they saw each other was arounf three or four months later when she turned up at his house. He said they just spoke that day and she said she was going to work where she cleaned.
He said around two or three days later she arrived at his house and he gave her whiskey and the pair had sex again. Around October, the pair had sex again when Alena arrived at his house.
The man said a couple of weeks later, Alena turned up at his house and asked for money to buy food for her daughter. He said when he offered her food she declined but he offered her a laptop and camera for her to sell for the money.
12:40SOPHIE CORCORAN
Man saw Alena in days before Christmas
The man said in his statement that he visited the pub with Alena and a friend.
He said: "My friend arrived and she was there. The three of us went to the pub and my friend bought her some whiskey. I went for a cigarette and came back and my friend told me he had given her £40 she had asked for and she offered him sex for a further £20. She had already had £40 off me that day and she had never asked for money from me for sex.
"She said she was walking home and we got a taxi. An hour later she knocked on my door asking for money for a taxi. I saw there was a car outside and I could see it wasn't a taxi so I told her and she just went. When I went inside I noticed two mobile phones had gone. She jumped into the taxi and it drove away quickly."
The man said he last saw Alena on Christmas Day when she turned up at his house. He said he did not let her in but she was "talking about baby jesus and Christmas." He said she gave him a signet ring. He said they spoke for around 45 minutes before she left.
In his statement the man said that was the last time he saw Alena.
13:22SOPHIE CORCORAN
Trial adjourned for lunch
It will resume at 2pm.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
'Beating' before Alena went missing
Danka has told the court that Lucie told her she struck Alena’s head with her knee during an incident before she went missing.
In her statement said: “Lucie said Alena slapped her and Lucie’s mouth bled.She said she took Alena’s coat and shoes off her as she bought them for her and said she took everything from her and she left with slippers on. Lucie said she thought she was hiding at Villiam’s house.”
Danka has confirmed that the conversation took place before Alena’s body was found in April 2019. She said she has not had contact with Lucie or her aunt, because of Alena, but also because of her “own problems.”
12:36SOPHIE CORCORAN
Statement from man who spent time with Alena
A man, who has since died, told officers he had spent time with Alena after meeting her in June 2018.
In a statement read out to the court the man said he was approached for a cigarette while he was sat outside a pub in Swinton. He said he offered to buy the woman - who said her name was Alena - a drink but instead she asked for a bottle of whiskey and for the pair to drink it at his house.
The man said they went back to his and they had sex and the next time they saw each other was arounf three or four months later when she turned up at his house. He said they just spoke that day and she said she was going to work where she cleaned.
He said around two or three days later she arrived at his house and he gave her whiskey and the pair had sex again. Around October, the pair had sex again when Alena arrived at his house.
The man said a couple of weeks later, Alena turned up at his house and asked for money to buy food for her daughter. He said when he offered her food she declined but he offered her a laptop and camera for her to sell for the money.
12:40SOPHIE CORCORAN
Man saw Alena in days before Christmas
The man said in his statement that he visited the pub with Alena and a friend.
He said: "My friend arrived and she was there. The three of us went to the pub and my friend bought her some whiskey. I went for a cigarette and came back and my friend told me he had given her £40 she had asked for and she offered him sex for a further £20. She had already had £40 off me that day and she had never asked for money from me for sex.
"She said she was walking home and we got a taxi. An hour later she knocked on my door asking for money for a taxi. I saw there was a car outside and I could see it wasn't a taxi so I told her and she just went. When I went inside I noticed two mobile phones had gone. She jumped into the taxi and it drove away quickly."
The man said he last saw Alena on Christmas Day when she turned up at his house. He said he did not let her in but she was "talking about baby jesus and Christmas." He said she gave him a signet ring. He said they spoke for around 45 minutes before she left.
In his statement the man said that was the last time he saw Alena.
13:22SOPHIE CORCORAN
Trial adjourned for lunch
It will resume at 2pm.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
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Dear me what a wretched life the poor woman had 
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14:06SOPHIE CORCORAN
Case about to resume
The trial is about to resume.
The court is hearing from a witness who knew Alena, Lucie and Danka.
14:40SOPHIE CORCORAN
He says he last saw Alena on December 23, 2018
The man told police in a statement he last saw Alena on around December 23, 2018.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
Case about to resume
The trial is about to resume.
The court is hearing from a witness who knew Alena, Lucie and Danka.
14:40SOPHIE CORCORAN
He says he last saw Alena on December 23, 2018
The man told police in a statement he last saw Alena on around December 23, 2018.
Gary Allen murder trial hears of sinister search history - updates
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Thanks for the updates Leegs
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Thanks LB!!
I am confused (maybe I am misunderstanding the timeline) if a undercover officer in Grimsby heard a confession from the accused and the CPS had enough to charge then why wasn't he? Why was he still walking free when Alena was murdered?
Unless the confession was heard after Alena went missing but before he was charged with her murder? But I am sure he was still in Rotherham when he was charged as i remember his flat being searched.
I am confused (maybe I am misunderstanding the timeline) if a undercover officer in Grimsby heard a confession from the accused and the CPS had enough to charge then why wasn't he? Why was he still walking free when Alena was murdered?
Unless the confession was heard after Alena went missing but before he was charged with her murder? But I am sure he was still in Rotherham when he was charged as i remember his flat being searched.
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I'm sure I read the undercover operation was in 2010. Maybe they've got more forensics now?
Found it:
The court heard that in 2010, Allen returned to the Humberside area, prompting an undercover operation called Operation Misty.
Sick fantasies of blood-lover Gary Allen heard in double murder trial