UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #5

[bronzepurple]

The open space the reporter was in was the site of the old hydro hotel which was not where Alesha was found. Later in the video the reporter goes close to the site in the woods.

Oh sorry, my bad. Thought it was.

 

[jaci68]

It’s not, the mum is saying someone said something to her, it’s hearsay and cannot be corroborated. The mum said out for an hour, cctve proved it was wrong the mum knew from her own cctv he was out for longer but is quoted as saying different.
The mother also claimed she went in and asked her some if he knew anything at 7.30 am before Alesha was found and before she knew or thought to check cctv. Id say that’s relevant I’m really not sure what the issue is with this papers get stuff like this wrong all the time. Then pista minute paragraph saying sorry It seems to me that whole article was a mess. half of it didn’t make much sense going on about fiends etc. Worded as if the mum said it If someone proof read that article they should be fired

It’s not, the mum is saying someone said something to her, it’s hearsay and cannot be corroborated. The mum said out for an hour, cctve proved it was wrong the mum knew from her own cctv he was out for longer but is quoted as saying different.
The mother also claimed she went in and asked her some if he knew anything at 7.30 am before Alesha was found and before she knew or thought to check cctv. Id say that’s relevant I’m really not sure what the issue is with this papers get stuff like this wrong all the time. Then pista minute paragraph saying sorry It seems to me that whole article was a mess. half of it didn’t make much sense going on about fiends etc. Worded as if the mum said it If someone proof read that article they should be fired

The fact that she was directed to look at the CCTV from 2am onwards, is in my opinion, significant information.

 

[Eezer Goode]

Interesting...given his history it does surprise me that he is being considered of sound mind...I know I'm not a doctor and this is just my opinion but his behaviour seems psychopathic to me.

What in his history leads you to believe he wasn't of sound mind? What psychotic behaviour?

 

[jaci68]

Lying seems to come pretty natural for RM and TM as well. Even in court about a case involving the rape and murder of RM's daughter. Doesn't make them psychopathic killers does it? Or does it?

Eezer - when were RM and TM lying?

 

[Taskforce88]

Oh sorry, my bad. Thought it was.

Sorry you are correct. A previous ITV STV showed the wrong site.

 

[Gardenista]

The open space the reporter was in was the site of the old hydro hotel which was not where Alesha was found. Later in the video the reporter goes close to the site in the woods.

What open space?

 

[Gardenista]

Lying seems to come pretty natural for RM and TM as well. Even in court about a case involving the rape and murder of RM's daughter. Doesn't make them psychopathic killers does it? Or does it?

RM and TM are victims.

 

[Kikixxxx]

What in his history leads you to believe he wasn't of sound mind? What psychotic behaviour?

Skinning cats alive, almost drowning a young girl, telling his mate he might kill one day for the life experience ...

 

[angeldust]

The fact that she was directed to look at the CCTV from 2am onwards, is in my opinion, significant information.

You don’t know that as fact she did not say this in court

 

[Ardoch]

The joggers were one of my earlier questions. He may have taken them out the second time he left the house (the CCTV is not clear as to what he was carrying - in court it was stated that it looked like a black t shirt) or disposed of them later. One of my follow up questions was at what time were the joggers recovered.

It's hard to tell colours on the CCTV.
At 3.35 it looks like he's wearing dark coloured joggers/ trousers when he comes back the first time.
At 3.45.17 he's wearing light coloured shorts and carrying either a dark tshirt or the joggers he came in wearing. He seems to be still carrying them as he goes round the side of the house - I think. They may be rolled up a bit. It looks like he's carrying something as he climbs over the wall.
At 3.53 His shorts look lighter - again and he's not carrying anything.

I wonder if it's the same shorts he's wearing and the colour is showing differently on the cameras?

If he was going down to the shore with the original joggers, it doesn't look like he took Creek Drive. Did he take the other path - a bit further up the road?
I would imagine that the joggers were found later on in the morning and I wonder where on the shore?

 

[Eezer Goode]

I It's odd he picked her as his defence, was he fixated with her, did they have a one night stand at some stage and he wasn't willing to let it go ?

Or maybe in the six months, or so, that he was locked up he wandered how on earth he is being linked with this case. Maybe when it was revealed to him that his semen was all over the body he put 2 and 2 together.

I


He went to the house for another reason and happened across little Alesha by chance, imo.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that he was in or even around the house that night.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Ok you are right I meant 2am! But the difference to me posting here and writing for a national newspaper is that there are layers of subeditors and editors above me that would correct such mistakes.

We don’t know the exact conversation between Toni and her aunt but my point was that what was reported is unlikely to be lax journalism. The reporter when faced with lawyers demanding clarification is likely to have gone back to AC’s mother to confirm that statement.

I can tell you for sure the Daily Mail do not! They published a story about someone I knew who had died in suspicious circumstances and got a lot wrong

 

[Eezer Goode]

Maybe he went there that night with the initial intention of murdering Robert and raping and killing Toni.

What, exactly, would be his motive for killing him and raping and killing her?

 

[Kikixxxx]

What, exactly, would be his motive for killing him and raping and killing her?

What motive would anyone have for raping and murdering a 6 year old girl? Sometimes there isn’t always a motive is there?

 

[angeldust]

Mum saved hysterical daughter, 10, from Alesha MacPhail killer's violent attack

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Lying seems to come pretty natural for RM and TM as well. Even in court about a case involving the rape and murder of RM's daughter. Doesn't make them psychopathic killers does it? Or does it?

Where did they lie in court? Are you talking about the alleged argument that the witness wasnt totally sure about?

 

[bronzepurple]

What in his history leads you to believe he wasn't of sound mind? What psychotic behaviour?

edit: as per the rules....he *allegedly* did these things...

torturing and killing cats, sexually assaulting someone, lack of empathy or sympathy for sentient beings (aforementioned examples), pathological lying in court, lack of remorse and guilt, need for stimulation (weight lifting, pier jumping, parkour, trampoline), failure to accept responsibility (complained that the police always blamed him to anything that happened in Ardbeg road) and blamed his mum for handing in the cctv footage that got him arrested (mentioned by his mum in media) etc instead of accepting he was being arrested because he abducted, raped and killed someone.


and yes before anyone says it I know people who need a lot of stimulation can be associated with other things such as adhd or just personality, and this on it's own doesn't make you a psychopath obv, but coupled with all the many other traits and behaviours of this boy it is important to note that it does fit the profile. you can pick any one of the things I've mentioned on it's own and explain it away, but all of them grouped together does suggest something different.

JMO

 

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[Gardenista]

Mum saved hysterical daughter, 10, from Alesha MacPhail killer's violent attack

Wow, crazy story!

 

[Eezer Goode]

. The only time I thought about the actual murder was if the knife that was found on the beach was used as a weapon or as a threat.

Thew court decided, with no evidence whatsoever, that the knife was used in the abduction. However this cunning killer who thinks he's so clever just placed the knife on the beach. You'd think, what with his super human weight lifting strength, that he would lob that thing to kingdom come. No, just placed it on the beach ready to be found.