UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #5

[Yenriac]

If it wasn't insanity that led to such a horrific crime then what was it? Seems a pretty insane act if you ask me? What would a psychopath do differently to take it up a notch?

That's for the experts to decide. However he has already been deemed fit for trial and if sound mind by the experts pre-trial.

 

[Ardoch]

Good description and perfectly describes the CCTV footage and what he was actually doing the 2nd and 3rd time he left the house and also him returning from woods following attack

Very good however what happened to the item of clothing that he was carrying?

 

[Gardenista]

Very good however what happened to the item of clothing that he was carrying?

Prosecutors believe he had also been out to dump the hoodie, jogging bottoms and boxers worn during the killing.

Alesha MacPhail murder trial - full court report

 

[angeldust]

Very good however what happened to the item of clothing that he was carrying?

Presumably that's the joggies that were dumped at the beach ?

 

[AM12]

The fact that she was directed to look at the CCTV from 2am onwards, is in my opinion, significant information.

To many what ifs with this subject . All we know is that if the figure on shore is AC and Alesha then she was taken between a few minutes after him leaving his house at 1'54 and a few minutes before he was seen on shore at 2.27 am . That is what is relevant here and what we and the court are aware of . Whether or not his Mum had a conversation and what was reported from it does not change this.
In order to clarify 2am information you would have to ask AC Mum or TM Aunt whether it is correct and what the source of the information is and then check with the source if it is correct or not and what it is based on
Without that investigation is is hearsay and does not change the above series of events

 

[bfin1995]

Island idyll shattered by a teenage murderer hungry for online fame

New info:

"Alesha’s parents sat separately in court. Lochrane was surrounded by a huddle of relatives."

"MacPhail, 26, sat at the back of the court, a gaunt figure flanked by strong men with tattooed forearms and knitted brows. He dressed in trainers and tracksuit bottoms, digging his hands in the pockets."

"The boy in the dock could not have looked more different — at times he seemed the most composed person in the room. Smartly dressed in a well-cut grey checked suit and white shirt, his hair neatly styled, he sat confidently erect. Sometimes he adjusted his jacket or straightened his collar, but mostly he sat impassive. Often the jury seemed to look at him, as if searching for a reason."

"He seemed to know what to say to attract sympathy. He hadd told friends he suffered from anxiety and depression. In the dock he described how his father was away “more often than not” and claimed his mother had a drinking problem and liked to pick arguments with him when she was drunk. Yet, despite his emotive words, the only time he seemed to display any feeling was when he was challenged. Under cross-examination, he snapped. Becoming irritated when confronted with the charges, agitated when he was not believed, he gave short answers insisting that what he said was “absolutely true”."

"Neighbours I spoke to were defensive about how Campbell described his parents in the dock. One said Campbell’s father was “a gentleman”. They denied his mother had a drink problem. However, one neighbour claimed that since the arrest, his father had left his mother for another women. “She said Chris [Campbell] had gone away with his girlfriend”, they said.

Another neighbour claimed that the separation had happened because Campbell’s father blamed his mother for calling the police with CCTV footage, shot from their family home, that showed the boy repeatedly leaving and returning the night Alesha went missing."

 

[AM12]

RM and TM are victims.

Absolutely Feel so sorry for them and heart goes out to them having to be dragged through this and for family losing a daughter.

 

[Sleuthdolf]

New info:

"Alesha’s parents sat separately in court. Lochrane was surrounded by a huddle of relatives."

"MacPhail, 26, sat at the back of the court, a gaunt figure flanked by strong men with tattooed forearms and knitted brows. He dressed in trainers and tracksuit bottoms, digging his hands in the pockets."

"The boy in the dock could not have looked more different — at times he seemed the most composed person in the room. Smartly dressed in a well-cut grey checked suit and white shirt, his hair neatly styled, he sat confidently erect. Sometimes he adjusted his jacket or straightened his collar, but mostly he sat impassive. Often the jury seemed to look at him, as if searching for a reason."

"He seemed to know what to say to attract sympathy. He hadd told friends he suffered from anxiety and depression. In the dock he described how his father was away “more often than not” and claimed his mother had a drinking problem and liked to pick arguments with him when she was drunk. Yet, despite his emotive words, the only time he seemed to display any feeling was when he was challenged. Under cross-examination, he snapped. Becoming irritated when confronted with the charges, agitated when he was not believed, he gave short answers insisting that what he said was “absolutely true”."

"Neighbours I spoke to were defensive about how Campbell described his parents in the dock. One said Campbell’s father was “a gentleman”. They denied his mother had a drink problem. However, one neighbour claimed that since the arrest, his father had left his mother for another women. “She said Chris [Campbell] had gone away with his girlfriend”, they said.

Another neighbour claimed that the separation had happened because Campbell’s father blamed his mother for calling the police with CCTV footage, shot from their family home, that showed the boy repeatedly leaving and returning the night Alesha went missing."

Thanks. I couldn't be bothered to do the whole thing. Wanted to clarify where the 2 cats killed 'rumour' came as some mentioned him having 2 kittens and it possibly be them he apparently killed.

 

[Ardoch]

Sorry maybe I'm confused, I thought that the joggers and boxers were believed to have been washed up from his jumping off the pier a couple of days before. According to the Sun map they were found further up the coast. Why did he not use the nearest path at Creek Dr?

 

[mrazda71]

Sorry maybe I'm confused, I thought that the joggers and boxers were believed to have been washed up from his jumping off the pier a couple of days before. According to the Sun map they were found further up the coast. Why did he not use the nearest path at Creek Dr?

Aaron claimed that the joggers & boxers were found on the beach because he'd accidentally kicked them off the pier when attempting to pick them up but ... that was a lie.

 

[Eezer Goode]

You mean the court instructed the jury to believe AC's account?

That patently isn't true.

Maybe I've misunderstood you.

I should have been clearer about the fact that my memory is hazy on this. Maybe when i've caught up i'll have time to scroll back but there was something the judge said about dropping a charge of misleading police or something to that affect and i believe it was re the jogging bottoms found on the beach.

Quite happy for someone to correct me as, like i said, i can't quote it verbatim.

 

[AM12]

It's hard to tell colours on the CCTV.
At 3.35 it looks like he's wearing dark coloured joggers/ trousers when he comes back the first time.
At 3.45.17 he's wearing light coloured shorts and carrying either a dark tshirt or the joggers he came in wearing. He seems to be still carrying them as he goes round the side of the house - I think. They may be rolled up a bit. It looks like he's carrying something as he climbs over the wall.
At 3.53 His shorts look lighter - again and he's not carrying anything.

I wonder if it's the same shorts he's wearing and the colour is showing differently on the cameras?

If he was going down to the shore with the original joggers, it doesn't look like he took Creek Drive. Did he take the other path - a bit further up the road?
I would imagine that the joggers were found later on in the morning and I wonder where on the shore?

Remember lighting conditions are changing as daylight is beginning to rise. He stsrts to run 2nd time along high Rd which is direct route to where joggers were found on shore and fits with timescale or he could have gone by way of crime scene along Gortans Rd although unlikely as he is barefoot IMO he would have stayed on high Rd and down next to phone box to shore to dispose of clothes then back to house.
3rd time he runs also along in direction of crime scene perhaps checking if joggers had sunk and covetring tracks at place where Alesha was found. It appears he returned via Gortans Rd as is not seen at front of house when returning . Instead jumping wall at side of house from Gortans Rd which leads to where body was found
Post on here of where joggers were found almost directly below where Aleshas body was found on shore

 

[iamnotanumber]

Seemed pretty sure about it to me. Also pretty sure that she (i think) had heard 'skin on skin' beatings for a period of three months. Also seemed pretty sure that she (i think) had heard TM calling out 'somebody help me'. Was also sure enough to raise it with RM's dad who told her she hadn't heard anything and saying such things would jeopardise RM's claim for custody of AM. Although she obviously heeded that ...erm....advice at the time, she was still sure enough to go to court about it.
<modsnipped>

Hmmm. The (she) you are talking about is an elderly neighbour who had recently lost her husband. She would have been interviewed by the police and called to give evidence. I'm pretty certain she would have found the whole thing (what she was giving evidence about, and being a witness in the high court) pretty unsettling, <modsnip>

 

[Ardoch]

Aaron claimed that the joggers & boxers were found on the beach because he'd accidentally kicked them off the pier when attempting to pick them up but ... that was a lie.

and his account couldn't be proved? He didn't use the path opposite because he knew he'd be on CCTV?

 

[Missmaam]

There's a random pic of a cat in the article too in case we're confused.

This made me giggle.

 

[Eezer Goode]

From a few days ago. A reminder of how the Judge saw the evidence at trial - overwhelming was his wording. bbm



Boy, 16, guilty of Alesha rape and murder

Well he's hardly going to say 'there's a ring operating on this island (including people far more powerful than myself) and we've used flimsy evidence to convict this boy as he is a convenient scapegoat. I'd further like to add, that it is quite hard to set people up so it was difficult to nail it exactly but people will believe anything these days so no bother'

 

[Eezer Goode]

I get that but have you thought for one second what the rest of the comments would look like if this conviction were to be overturned? Of course it won't be but...

EDIT: keep forgetting to quote, see below

 

[bfin1995]

For those familiar, is this how the courtroom would have been set up? AC sat by himself in "the dock"?

 

[Ardoch]

Remember lighting conditions are changing as daylight is beginning to rise. He stsrts to run 2nd time along high Rd which is direct route to where joggers were found on shore and fits with timescale or he could have gone by way of crime scene along Gortans Rd although unlikely as he is barefoot IMO he would have stayed on high Rd and down next to phone box to shore to dispose of clothes then back to house.
3rd time he runs also along in direction of crime scene perhaps checking if joggers had sunk and covetring tracks at place where Alesha was found. It appears he returned via Gortans Rd as is not seen at front of house when returning . Instead jumping wall at side of house from Gortans Rd which leads to where body was found
Post on here of where joggers were found almost directly below where Aleshas body was found on shore

Less houses on that part of the road as well. This is one of the conflicting things about the obvious evidence: he thought he was being clever not using the opposite path yet didn't think his mother would see the CCTV and didn't have a reasonable story as to why he was changing clothes nor carrying some either.

 

[AM12]

Mum saved hysterical daughter, 10, from Alesha MacPhail killer's violent attack

So not an isolated incident. Pathological liar and violence .
Physiologist has stated that this level of violence must have escalated from previous experiences