UK UK - Andrew Gosden, 14, Doncaster, South Yorks, 14 Sept 2007

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nacentaeons said:
This recent interview with Kevin is of interest. It clarifies a number of points. The most important one is that the Gifted and Talented summer school was held in 2006 not 2007 as is often believed.

The Disappearance of Andrew Gosden. Interview with Kevin Gosden.
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Thank you for sharing the interview.
How absolutely awful that despite footage of Andrew shortly after arriving in London, LE treated his family as they did. How extremely sad that his father became suicidal.

Hopefully Andrew is out there and will contact his family one day to say he felt an overwhelming need to start a new life (or whatever the case may be) but is ready to see them again.
 
Mrs Marple said:
Who else was at this Excellemce Hub, that is what l would be looking at. It's possible he was groomed there. He may have met someone on the way home, which may be why he chose to walk. However intelligent he was, l suspect he was naive and vulnerable.
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This is most likely the right scenario. I think he was groomed by someone and lured to London for a 'day out' and met with foul play. Obviously, the culprit has done a sufficient job of hiding Andrew and doesn't want to spill the beans.

I don't see a suicide or runaway as credible solutions.
 
There are many cases of runaways his age, but yes, it's also obviously the hoped-for best outcome.

I do agree he may have met someone, but if met locally, why would they lure him to London... I guess a perp could have had access to a 2nd residence there.
 
From Wikipedia:
In the days leading up to his disappearance, Gosden twice chose to break his normal routine; his parents reported that he told them he walked home from school rather than taking the school bus.[4] Walking the 4-mile (6.4 km) route from school to his home would have taken around 1 hour 20 minutes.[4]
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All this hour long walking to school could have been used for planning his disappearance. He could have had a burner phone for all we know and needed this extra time alone to talk to someone.

I have many theories but the thing that keeps me hoping is that the way Andrew left seems planned. We have read how proud his parents were and how smart and cultured he was but we don't have an account on his character and how he took failure. Was he prepared? Had he always been an over achiever? At this young teen age one thinks he is on the top of the world but is not necessarily prepared to face failure. Did he ever had a girlfriend? Did he have friends?

I remember at this young age, when I met my first "true love" that I thought we were "destined" for one another. I even planned to follow him abroad were he was going to study, and planned my way to study abroad as well without my parents realizing the reason behind it. I didn't have many friends growing up as I was shy and introvert and with my first relationship I suddenly felt noticed and powerful.
 
nacentaeons said:
This recent interview with Kevin is of interest. It clarifies a number of points. The most important one is that the Gifted and Talented summer school was held in 2006 not 2007 as is often believed.

The Disappearance of Andrew Gosden. Interview with Kevin Gosden.
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I’ve not read that interview before and it’s actually quite enlightening.

I think the internet as a whole has built up a persona around Andrew that doesn’t exactly fit the one his father describes. There are obvious similarities, but to me Kevin talks about a much more aware, average teenage boy than the narrative seems to run. Andrew is perfectly comfortable in London having spent lots of time there (and let’s face it, Doncaster is hardly a village backwater either). He had an X-Box as well as the oft-mentioned PSP, on which he played sports games, again showing “normal” teen boy stuff, not the slightly “odd” persona that I feel has become the overriding image we have. He had friends, he wasn’t a loner, the bands he liked were pretty mainstream for the time amongst teenagers. His dad even says the one-way ticket isn’t that big a deal, because he would have figured he could ask a family member to take him home or something.

I think that interview should be compulsory reading for anyone who is following this case. It gives a different perspective, and definitely makes Andrew more of a real person.
 
I was looking at the CCTV images on the "Finding Andrew" website. I noticed what appears to be a reflection of a man's legs in dark blue trousers, and black shoes, in the top left of the glass door panel. This could be something else, or someone entirely innocent. If it is a man, he appears to have a wide, military style stance, and is more formally dressed than the other passengers. He is also facing the station, as if waiting for someone.

Another aspect of the CCTV is Andrew's own demeanor, it seems to me, as he approaches the exit doors, he's looking for someone. There's a slight anxiety in his face, a tension in the shoulders, and his eyes are leading his body, all consistent with someone looking for someone at a meeting point. He also appears to walk in a curve, around the man with a rucksack, who's entering the station, as if to go in the mystery military man's direction.
Is this the man who met Andrew twice in his home town, and then arranged to meet Andrew again in London, at Kings Cross? If so, could a military or law enforcement connection, have led to a cover up in this case?

CCTV images:
In The Press
 
Is this the image with reflection you mention:

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both images from In The Press

Not sure keeping a hand in one's pocket is military? Messenger bag on the person's left shoulder, right hand in pocket? Andrew could be looking at that person.

I can't find a match for that figure in this image, taken a brief time after:

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unless perhaps the lady in the striped cardigan? Bag on left shoulder, jacket over left hand?


JMHO YMMV LRR
 
Only weeks before I was forced to move, I was going to work and Andrew's face was staring at me at my bus stop in SE London. I will never forget him. I looked for him for so long. I used to show his picture to the sleeping people around the area from Charing Cross up to Leicester Square. I think he was taken and murdered. I hope he's still around, but noone I asked had ever seen him, and they were young too.
 
And just to explain further, they didn't know him. I woke someone up to show him the picture. They didn't know him. That guy would have told me if he had ever seen him. This was at the church area near Charing Cross. He would have helped if he could. He'd never seen Andrew. I saw him several times, maybe from 2009-2017, he NEVER saw Andrew, or at least said he never did.
 
Farley said:
The gifted and talented program being in 2006 not 2007 throws me.

I’ve always felt he met someone there be it student or teacher who lured him to London. But it being a year earlier now means that theory is blown out the water.
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Maybe he was lured to London but by someone he met on the Internet, etc.
Or you could still be right, and he maintained the friendship for quite awhile and then decided to go.
 
ChatteringBirds said:
Maybe he was lured to London but by someone he met on the Internet, etc.
Or you could still be right, and he maintained the friendship for quite awhile and then decided to go.
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He had no access to the internet though. The school, local Internet cafe and library PC’s were examined. Nothing found. Andrew’s sister had a laptop which she got 6 weeks before he vanished. It was also searched. They family claim he had no interest in the laptop.

I see many people say he must have hidden his tracks. The only computer he would have had regular access to should he have wanted it would have been his sisters. So in six weeks he got SO good with computers that he learned to hide his tracks to avoid sophisticated forensic detection all the while acting like he wasn’t interested at all in the computer. Took me years to learn those skills. add to that he would have had to meet someone, be groomed by them and agree to meet them in London whilst learning to forensically wipe his tracks from the PC (but not his sisters because she’d notice and it would then have also been obvious it had been wiped), and all the while acting like he wasn’t interested and not being on it when any family are around. It’s just not feasible in any way.

He did have a PSP but Sony confirmed it had never been online (and yes I’m aware of custom firmware. I had a psp with custom firmware).

There is simply not a single scrap of evidence to suggest or even hint at meeting someone online.

This case would be a lot more sense if he had of met someone online!
 
Farley said:
He had no access to the internet though. The school, local Internet cafe and library PC’s were examined. Nothing found. Andrew’s sister had a laptop which she got 6 weeks before he vanished. It was also searched. They family claim he had no interest in the laptop.

I see many people say he must have hidden his tracks. The only computer he would have had regular access to should he have wanted it would have been his sisters. So in six weeks he got SO good with computers that he learned to hide his tracks to avoid sophisticated forensic detection all the while acting like he wasn’t interested at all in the computer. Took me years to learn those skills. add to that he would have had to meet someone, be groomed by them and agree to meet them in London whilst learning to forensically wipe his tracks from the PC (but not his sisters because she’d notice and it would then have also been obvious it had been wiped), and all the while acting like he wasn’t interested and not being on it when any family are around. It’s just not feasible in any way.

He did have a PSP but Sony confirmed it had never been online (and yes I’m aware of custom firmware. I had a psp with custom firmware).

There is simply not a single scrap of evidence to suggest or even hint at meeting someone online.

This case would be a lot more sense if he had of met someone online!
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I honestly believe he started a new life with someone he met at a gig or somewhere. I really do. Andrew if you are reading this its okay to come forward and the Missing charity know. Its never too late.
 
Farley said:
There is simply not a single scrap of evidence to suggest or even hint at meeting someone online.
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Quote RSBM.

Thank you for the information about lack of online activity. One reason it seemed possible is that he liked gaming, and then so many teenagers go online to connect with those with similar interests... adults, too, or else why else are we all here? :D
 
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