Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #7 *M. Bridger guilty*

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Re MB gasping and crying during presentation of evidence: wondering, if MB is telling the truth that he does not remember what he did to April, whether now that all the evidence is presented it is slowly coming back to him?
 
@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones the prosecution start the afternoon session by calling Mr Roderick McKenzie Stewart, a forensic scientist.

#AprilJones Mr Stewart examined Mark Bridger's Land Rover, for any damage/marks attributable to a collision

#AprilJones The witness says its was a "very thorough examination"

#AprilJones Mr Stewart "there was nothing, which would indicate contact with anything like a body or a bicycle"

#AprilJones "no indication of any forceful damage" on either April's or her friends bicycle

#AprilJones Mr Stewart, a forensic scientists, says two samples found on the front of the car were not blood, nor paint from the bicycles

#AprilJones Mr Kelly QC (defence) now cross examinations. Mr Stewart says he saw no fibres on the tyres of the car

#AprilJones "There was no physical evidence of a collision. "this vehicle is two-tonnes, it would have done a lot of damage."

#AprilJones cross-examination of Mr Stewart, a forensic scientist, continuing after a short break

#AprilJones Mr Roderick McKenzie Stewart says he was looking for "Pieces of fabric embedded in the wheel arch"

#AprilJones "as a tyre goes over an object, it would trap the object, and it would get trapped in the wheel arch, damaging the bodywork"

#AprilJones the next witness is PC Gary Rees, a forensic collision investigator

#AprilJones PC Rees also examined the Land Rover Discover

#AprilJones PC Rees says he didn't see any signs of recent damage

#AprilJones PC Rees "I could find no evidence that the vehicle had been in contact with a pedestrian"

#AprilJones in cross-examination, Mr Kelly QC asks if PC Rees had looked near the garages to see for any signs of collision, he answers no

#AprilJones PC Rees explaining that there was no obvious signs of pedestrian contact, so the tyres weren't 'taped' for microscopic fibres.

#AprilJones Mr Kelly QC asks what methods were used to examine the vehicle. PC Rees describes a bright white light to see under the vehicle

#AprilJones the judge tells the jury they'll be taken to see Mark Bridger's Land Rover Discovery, and the two children's bikes, on Thursday.


@DarrenLittleSky:

Prosecution now moving onto computer evidence #apriljones


Live updates, since Tweets seem to be coming quite slowly this afternoon!: [x]

The court clerk has asked for the public to the leave the courtroom for a short while before proceedings resume in order for a couple of legal issues to be discussed.

After a short discussion the public have now been allowed back in the courtroom. The jury, along with Bridger, have taken their seats and we are now ready to resume proceedings.

Ms Evans has called forensic scientist Roderick Mckenzie Stewart to the stand. Mr Stewart was the expert brought in to examine Bridger's Land Rover for any evidence that it had been involved in a collision with a person or an object such as a bicycle. He told jurors he looked closely at the bodywork of the Discovery along with the wheel arches, the bumper and the underside of the vehicle.

<modsnip>
When the trial resumes the prosecution intend to deal with the images found on Bridger's computer. During her opening statement Ms Evans told jurors experts found a "fairly substantial" library of indecent images on his laptop.


@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones Mervyn Ray, manager of the high tech crime unit at Dyfed Powys Police, giving evidence.

#AprilJones the manager says he found "a lot of searching for underage and sexual material, and folders which amounted to a library"


Live updates: [x]

Jurors have just passed a note to the judge and as a result he has adjourned proceedings for another break.

The jury has now been brought back into the courtroom along with Bridger.

The judge has cleared the public gallery of all members of the public apart from April's parents ahead of the evidence found on Bridger's computer.

The trial has been adjourned until 10am tomorrow.
 
Just want to add, @ Neurotripsy, you're doing a great job posting all this info here! It's a dramatic read for me, I have never followed a trial like this. It's very interesting and I'm often stunned. So thanks! :)
 
Is it just me but there seems to be a lot of pauses in the proceedings (I don't mean the breaks), is some of the evidence not being reported to the media?
 
#AprilJones in cross-examination, Mr Kelly QC asks if PC Rees had looked near the garages to see for any signs of collision, he answers no

#AprilJones PC Rees explaining that there was no obvious signs of pedestrian contact, so the tyres weren't 'taped' for microscopic fibres.

#AprilJones Mr Kelly QC asks what methods were used to examine the vehicle. PC Rees describes a bright white light to see under the vehicle

bbm - Does this evidence seem a bit flimsy to you? As if they didn't do a thourough enough job? I expect the defence poking holes or instilling doubt here.
 
Considering the prosecution case is supposed to be finishing the end of this week or early next, I really hope they have something else to pull out the bag...
 
Re MB gasping and crying during presentation of evidence: wondering, if MB is telling the truth that he does not remember what he did to April, whether now that all the evidence is presented it is slowly coming back to him?

This is what he wants you to think. He's acting IMO. Trying to save himself.
 
#AprilJones in cross-examination, Mr Kelly QC asks if PC Rees had looked near the garages to see for any signs of collision, he answers no

#AprilJones PC Rees explaining that there was no obvious signs of pedestrian contact, so the tyres weren't 'taped' for microscopic fibres.

#AprilJones Mr Kelly QC asks what methods were used to examine the vehicle. PC Rees describes a bright white light to see under the vehicle

bbm - Does this evidence seem a bit flimsy to you? As if they didn't do a thourough enough job? I expect the defence poking holes or instilling doubt here.

There's more to it than a few abbreviated sentences via Twitter can convey.
 
bbm - Does this evidence seem a bit flimsy to you? As if they didn't do a thourough enough job? I expect the defence poking holes or instilling doubt here.

:( Unfortunately that's their job and they seem to be making a pretty good task of it - and we've still to hear their side of the story yet.
This is what has been troubling me from the beginning.
Emotionally I feel that he's 100% guilty, but legally I just don't know if the evidence against him is strong enough to stand up to nitpicking.

This is what he wants you to think. He's acting IMO. Trying to save himself.

Hard to judge without actually seeing his body language, but that was my initial thought too.
Either that or he's genuinely shocked by just how much evidence they managed to recover after his clean up.
 
Following Pc Parry's evidence the prosecution called another witness into the box only for Mr Kelly to announce he did not wish to challenge any of her evidence. As a result, Elizabeth Gibson was released before she even sat down. . . . . . . . . . . . . So the Jury get to read this evidence then? - hardly the same as hearing it surely? Did the defence not like parts of it? I find it hard to understand how a witness can be called to give evidence and it not be heard and why didn't the prosecution just go through her evidence and then the defence decline to cross examine her?
 
Jurors have just passed a note to the judge and as a result he has adjourned proceedings for another break.

The jury has now been brought back into the courtroom along with Bridger.

The judge has cleared the public gallery of all members of the public apart from April's parents ahead of the evidence found on Bridger's computer.

What was this all about? Any hunch?
 
Is it just me but there seems to be a lot of pauses in the proceedings (I don't mean the breaks), is some of the evidence not being reported to the media?

The pauses usually tend to be for legal arguments, for instance about whether evidence might or might not be admissable. Jury, public and press are excluded for these discussions, since inadmissable evidence should not be reported and should not be heard by the jury.
 
What was this all about? Any hunch?

My guess is that the court was about to be shown illegal images of children found on Bridger's computer - hence the need to clear the public gallery.

Then (again, only a guess) the jury passed a note to the judge saying something along the lines that they needed a break and a cup of tea before having to face something that unpleasant. After the break the judge, noting that it was getting late in the day, decided to postpone this unpleasant task until the morning.

All pure guesswork on my part.
 
Not sure if ok to say but looking at #apriljones and some of the twitter updates, extended family seem to be quite happy with the prosecution and way it is going. I agree re computer images, they are probably children that could be identified and therefore need to be protected. Not sure what has come out before close of day today, but do feel we seem to be having very short court days!
 
Thank you N for all the invaluable updates.

So, to date it seems April was definitely in his house, bleeding on the carpet, and her blood got smeared in various areas of the house.

Agree with others who say we need to hear all the evidence but I struggle with the idea he had nothing to do with anything apart from taking her in his car and putting her somewhere.
 
This is what has been troubling me from the beginning.
Emotionally I feel that he's 100% guilty, but legally I just don't know if the evidence against him is strong enough to stand up to nitpicking.

Keep in mind that he has basically admitted that he killed her, so the prosecution isn't starting from scratch.

And the main plank of his story is that he crushed her with the car. Alas for him, there is no evidence of any such thing on his car and I for one find it impossible to believe that there wouldn't be any trace at all.

Following Pc Parry's evidence the prosecution called another witness into the box only for Mr Kelly to announce he did not wish to challenge any of her evidence. As a result, Elizabeth Gibson was released before she even sat down. . . . . . . . . . . . . So the Jury get to read this evidence then? - hardly the same as hearing it surely? Did the defence not like parts of it? I find it hard to understand how a witness can be called to give evidence and it not be heard and why didn't the prosecution just go through her evidence and then the defence decline to cross examine her?

I wondered about this too! Seems very odd.
 
Following Pc Parry's evidence the prosecution called another witness into the box only for Mr Kelly to announce he did not wish to challenge any of her evidence. As a result, Elizabeth Gibson was released before she even sat down. . . . . . . . . . . . . So the Jury get to read this evidence then? - hardly the same as hearing it surely? Did the defence not like parts of it? I find it hard to understand how a witness can be called to give evidence and it not be heard and why didn't the prosecution just go through her evidence and then the defence decline to cross examine her?

I wonder if it turned out that the evidence Elizabeth Gibson was going to give had actually been covered, perhaps unexpectedly, by a previous witness?
 
From live updates: [x]

The eleventh day of the April Jones murder trial is due to begin at 10am. Jurors are expected to hear from computer experts about the indecent images recovered from Mark Bridger's computer. The nine women and three men that make up the panel were due to hear the evidence yesterday but legal arguments caused it to be delayed.

Proceedings have been delayed. Around a dozen journalists are gathered in the courtroom and have just been told by the clerk the trial will start shortly.

After an unexpected 25 minute delay an usher has brought the jury down to the courtroom.

Bridger, who is wearing the same blue shirt as he has done since last Tuesday, has taken his seat in the dock.

Proceedings will now begin.


@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones Mr Ray says the computer contained a 'library of images', arranged into folders 'pornographic, including of underage girls'

#AprilJones The witness says the second strand of their findings were a series of Internet searches

#AprilJones Mr Ray "Demonstrate searches had been made for the kind of material I've just mentioned"

#AprilJones he also alleges there were images of child murder victims. Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman

#AprilJones witness also tells jury the files were in user generated folders

#AprilJones the jury are being taken through a presentation of the images, allegedly found on Mark Bridger's laptop

#AprilJones Mr Ray is explaining how and when new folders were made

#AprilJones there were also allegedly images of April's half sisters, and others, taken off Facebook.

#AprilJones Mr Ray tells court in a folder called 'Z5' there were images of "cartoon sex" with "representations of young girls"


@skynewsnorth:

Bridger shaking his head occasionally as computer investigator gives evidence from witness box. #apriljones

Specialist says cartoons on computer feature "monster sex" with "humanoid" figures with "representations of young girls. #apriljones


@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones Mr Ray says he would think there were 100 to 150 indecent images, with 65 being of criminal standard


@DarrenLittleSky:

Picture of April's sister was "presumably" from Facebook and put in the "clothes" file, was also a separate file named after her #apriljones

Expert: There were 65 indecent images "which would meet the criminal standard" on MB's computer #apriljones

MB also had a picture of girl who was murdered in Florida and had been buried alive #apriljones

He also had photos of the murdered Soham girls Holly and Jessica, Caroline Dickinson who was murdered in France and a Turkish murder victim

Expert: In June MB searched the Internet for "naked five year old girls" #apriljones


@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones jury now being shown Internet searches allegedly made on the 8th of June 2012

#AprilJones Mervyn Ray tells the court that, in his view, were typed in by the user.

#AprilJones some of the alleged searched terms are for content of underage girls.

#AprilJones Expert says that there were images saved around the same as the searches were made

#AprilJones 14th of August, alleged a large amount of material, expert estimates 75% of which were indecent images, saved onto computer


From live updates: [x]

"The computer was found to contain a series of folders which amounted to a library of images," Mr Ray said. "The images were arranged in such a way that certain images were separated, sorted. In one folder there were pornographic images including images of underage girls. In another folder there were other sexual images in cartoon format including representations of underage girls."In a third folder there were images of clothed girls including known individuals."

The computer expert also described how his team discovered a number of indecent searches had been performed on the laptop. He added the hard drive also contained "images connected to past murders of children" including Soham killer Ian Huntley's victims, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman and nine-year-old American youngster Jessica Lumsford. These images, Mr Ray said, were found in the "clothed" folder.

<modsnip>
The trial has just been adjourned to allow jurors a short break.

The clerk has a just told the gathered media the break will last a little longer than expected.

Proceedings have now resumed.

Elwen Evans QC, prosecuting, has finished questioning Mr Ray and the witness is now being cross-examined by Bridger's barrister Brendan Kelly QC.

In answer to a question posed by Mr Kelly, the computer expert confirmed that while indecent images were still stored on Bridger's computer, none of them were accessed between September 6 and September 28 last year.


@NewsAndyD:

#AprilJones Defence QC Brendan Kelly asks if on the 14th August, was the entire folder was moved at the same time. Mr Ray answers 'yes'

#AprilJones Mr Ray says "no evidence that he's looked at them since the 14th August."


From live updates: [x]

There was no internet connection in Bridger's Mount Pleasant cottage, jurors have just been told. Mr Kelly has just revealed that all of Bridger's web browsing had been done through a mobile internet device known as a dongle.

Mr Ray has finished his evidence and has been released from the witness box.

In his place Ms Evans has called Adrian Wood, a private computer forensic investigator recruited by Dyfed Powys Police to analyse Bridger's Acer laptop.

The public gallery - which was cleared for Mr Ray's evidence - has been reopened.

Mr Wood has told jurors that he uncovered evidence a number of files, which included images, had been deleted from Bridger's laptop. He added these files had been deleted sometime between May 26 and July 6 last year.

<modsnip>
The trial will resume at 2pm.
 
Keep in mind that he has basically admitted that he killed her, so the prosecution isn't starting from scratch.

And the main plank of his story is that he crushed her with the car. Alas for him, there is no evidence of any such thing on his car and I for one find it impossible to believe that there wouldn't be any trace at all.


I wondered about this too! Seems very odd.

bbm - Probably the defence will later say that he cleaned it himself?

Re the evidence on the computers: I'm reminded of my early days on the Internet when I had caught some malware. My computer slowed down, I had constant pop ups and other nuisances. I called a computer technician and he checked out my pc, diagnosed the virus and we reinstalled the operating system. However, before he did that he showed me lots and lots of folders containing *advertiser censored* which the virus had downloaded without my knowledge onto my harddrive. I was gobsmacked! It was so embarrassing, I was worried that the guy thought I had downloaded all this myself. :eek:

Long story short: defence might simply claim that his laptop was infected and he did not download all these pictures. I don't think it's strong evidence.
 
bbm - Probably the defence will later say that he cleaned it himself?

Re the evidence on the computers: I'm reminded of my early days on the Internet when I had caught some malware. My computer slowed down, I had constant pop ups and other nuisances. I called a computer technician and he checked out my pc, diagnosed the virus and we reinstalled the operating system. However, before he did that he showed me lots and lots of folders containing *advertiser censored* which the virus had downloaded without my knowledge onto my harddrive. I was gobsmacked! It was so embarrassing, I was worried that the guy thought I had downloaded all this myself. :eek:

Long story short: defence might simply claim that his laptop was infected and he did not download all these pictures. I don't think it's strong evidence.

That wouldn't account for the images and folders of specific local children though. Can't see how the defence can argue about these?
 
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