UK - Car 'ploughs into cyclists' and into security barriers outside Houses of Parliament, Aug 2018

[Gardenista]

EXCLUSIVE: Sudanese-born terror suspect 'was being investigated over irregularities in his British citizenship application' before 'trying to murder 15 cyclists by ploughing into them in Westminster'

Westminster attack: Sudanese-born terror suspect is farmers' son | Daily Mail Online

He looks older than 29 in the photo where they are taking him out of the car.

 

[HayLouise]

Sky News Breaking‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak
Sky Sources: Salih Khater was in London to renew his visa for Sudan and not his passport according to clarification from Birmingham Central Mosque

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[HayLouise]

Metropolitan Police says it has obtained a warrant to hold the 29-year-old man arrested on suspicion of terror offences and attempted murder after a crash in Westminster until Monday

Sky News Breaking on Twitter

 

[MisterPfister]

Sky Sources: Salih Khater was in London to renew his visa for Sudan and not his passport according to clarification from Birmingham Central Mosque

Epic Satnav Fail?

Thanks for the 'clarification', Birmingham Central Mosque.

 

[Livness]

I am literally sitting here with my jaw wide open just staring at your comment, Jennifer. What a heartless thing to say.

Thoughts are with any and all affected by yesterday's attack in London.

Thank you. We may not be a big country, we may all have got sadly used to many more horrific incidents happening on an almost daily basis, and fortunately in this case, there were no serious injuries and the attack was prevented from becoming an awful lot worse.

But some of us still know and spend a lot of time there (Westminster is a beautiful area. I would often go into work an hour early so I could wander the nearby St James Park and take photos around there before going in). It is still our country. It is still an incident that occurred because somebody intended to cause large numbers of injuries and fatalities in an attempt to cause terror. It is still our capital city. It was still an incident that involved people being intentionally run over. It was still our police officers and emergency service workers running into the midst of a situation with no awareness of any danger they faced. And it is still an incident that took place metres away from where 4 members of the public were run over and a police officer fatally stabbed by a terrorist in a similar incident (just a couple of months before another 8 members of the public were killed in a terrorist attack in a nearby part of London and before 22 people lost their lives in the Manchester Arena bombing).

We can still care about multiple things. One incident happening in one place doesn't mean we don't care about what is happening elsewhere. Caring that the city I know so well was the target of an attempted attack yesterday (and seeing the places you know and love cordoned off, large numbers of armed officers [bearing in mind the majority of our officers aren't armed], evacuated buildings and worry) doesn't mean I don't care that 39 people lost their lives in the Genoa bridge collapse yesterday or that horrendous attacks and abuse is taking place elsewhere in the world.

The publicity will die down very quickly from this one I suspect, with fortunately no serious injuries. But it still matters.

 

[whatsnext]

Thank you. We may not be a big country, we may all have got sadly used to many more horrific incidents happening on an almost daily basis, and fortunately in this case, there were no serious injuries and the attack was prevented from becoming an awful lot worse.

But some of us still know and spend a lot of time there (Westminster is a beautiful area. I would often go into work an hour early so I could wander the nearby St James Park and take photos around there before going in). It is still our country. It is still an incident that occurred because somebody intended to cause large numbers of injuries and fatalities in an attempt to cause terror. It is still our capital city. It was still an incident that involved people being intentionally run over. It was still our police officers and emergency service workers running into the midst of a situation with no awareness of any danger they faced. And it is still an incident that took place metres away from where 4 members of the public were run over and a police officer fatally stabbed by a terrorist in a similar incident (just a couple of months before another 8 members of the public were killed in a terrorist attack in a nearby part of London and before 22 people lost their lives in the Manchester Arena bombing).

We can still care about multiple things. One incident happening in one place doesn't mean we don't care about what is happening elsewhere. Caring that the city I know so well was the target of an attempted attack yesterday (and seeing the places you know and love cordoned off, large numbers of armed officers [bearing in mind the majority of our officers aren't armed], evacuated buildings and worry) doesn't mean I don't care that 39 people lost their lives in the Genoa bridge collapse yesterday or that horrendous attacks and abuse is taking place elsewhere in the world.

The publicity will die down very quickly from this one I suspect, with fortunately no serious injuries. But it still matters.

I agree that every single incident like this matters. But why isn't it such a big deal when 80 or 90 people die during an explosion in Afghanistan or Iraque? This is also terrorism. Just my opinion.

 

[Livness]

I agree that every single incident like this matters. But why isn't it such a big deal when 80 or 90 people die during an explosion in Afghanistan or Iraque? This is also terrorism. Just my opinion.

It is terrorism, absolutely.

I guess the main answer is that it is either not 'our' country (for those of us living in England - obviously living in England an attack in England hits home; for me, being in an area I know well and was often walking through at that time in the morning, makes it close to home or brings the worry about colleagues etc) or not a country that they feel 'close' to. (I am not saying I agree with this perspective necessarily, just that I suspect it is why). I don't know about the USA, if or how much publicity the attempted attack on Tuesday got there (I would suspect not much? In fairness, it is two days later here and it is not anywhere on the front page of BBC News at all. The first 24 hours there was much coverage, but it's already died down).

And in a very sad way, for some, maybe because they are 'used' to seeing it in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is almost 'expected' there now, in a sad way. Very Westernised countries where such attacks are so rare, it is bound to receive more publicity in our own countries. Just as I imagine in Iraq or Afghanistan they have far more coverage of the horrendous attacks in their own or neighbouring countries.