The only other companies I have heard of are Veolia and Viridor. I think the former does pick-ups and the latter manages waste transfer stations.
I did a long post then lost it so I'll redo it in a shorter version then edit it.
SP have put in their updates that other constabularies have reviewed their procedures.
Thinking about this how did SP know to put a hold on the landfill? That was incredible foresight wasn't it?
In the early weeks they only knew about the recycling lorry which matched the phone pings and that lorry didn't go to landfill we were told but went to a sorting site and incinerator. So how would SP know to put a Cambs landfill site on hold? They had no evidence about general waste bins going to landfill on the Monday at that time did they? I think it is incredible if they did that without evidence.
@mrseeker.
The bin that weighed 33 lbs was the HS recycling bin. If Corrie is found at the landfill and went there via "official" means then he must have been in a general waste bin located down SB, IMO.
I don't think he was separated from his phone. I guess if its foul play then his phone could have been tossed into the bin next to the one he was in...but i think the phone was in his pocket. Unless there was a second lorry that morning, he went in the only truck in question. The one with the phone. IMO
So you don't think he'll be found at the landfill then? The phone never pinged in Milton as far as we've been told (it was giving out signals until 08:00) and if it had then SP will have a lot to answer for.
I really do want it confirmed where that Biffa lorry dropped its load! (I have a possible location in mind).
I think it is likely he is there. I didn't early on because the MSM, N and the limited info from police suggested it was impossible for him to be in the lorry. That only his phone could be. So maybe the phone travelled one day and C the next, not sure. I just think the simplest explanation is he was in the lorry at 4:20 am with his phone and the weight was wrong. I said this other day, what do the records say for all the bins. How much did that bin weigh the prior Sat morning p/u and the times before that? Do the people who use that bin think 33lbs makes sense? If the shops pay by weight could there be record tampering along the way? Who knows? The police are pretty much tight lipped and saying things like next logical step is totally holding back. It is not the next logical step, it was the first logical step if it was even possible he went to the landfill. I said before, politeness is a weakness in this case.
I am with you on your first sentence. With the rest I can see it happening but just cannot see how a person would be missed either at the sorting or transfer stage or at the landfill stage. Corrie would have been discovered I would have thought at one of those procedures. Unless he was purposely taken to the landfill, which would be criminal and not an accident.I am not totally convinced he did not walk out and have an accident on his way back to camp.....
However, I have to admit the most logical explanation would be the bin and the lorry. So was C being in the bin a result of his bad decision or of foul play. I am leaning towards his bad decision. I base that on statistics. the area has a low crime rate, especially low in homicide..more likely to be simple assaults, maybe a mugging, perhaps a more serious battery in some cases. I know its not unheard of, but he was not in an alley in NYC or even London. He was in BSE. If there was a "beat down" by a group even, they would more likely just leave him there, not place him in a bin.
I do think he was at least unconscious at the time the bin was collected. So a serious assault could cause that. I just think it is not likely. Accidents are usually a series of events, where even if just one thing had been different the accident would not have happened. I think C decided he would hop in the bin to wait for sun up. I think he might have done this before. This time he slipped climbing in, fell hard and knocked himself out, or perhaps even broke his neck. In either case, he did not hear the lorry. He was not so drunk, he would have slept through the lorry collecting. He might have also had a medical emergency, such as a seizure, again leaving him unconscious or compromising his airway. Now we have one more complication, why the bin reportedly weighed 33 lbs. I think it was more like 200 lbs.
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Taking this a step further, there is a possibility that recycling is being taken to landfill without being sorted or transfered, with customers being charged for the recycling service but not actually getting it. That would not surprise me.
We have recently been told that early on the police told the landfill not to use the area they were using that weekend....here is the polite issue i have. When was this call made? why don't we know this? I guarantee you, if an American sheriff was looking for a missing person who was big news, and he called the local landfill and said, don't dump in a certain area until further notice, we would have breaking news all over the tv. That sheriff could not walk from his office to his car without a gaggle of reporters waiving microphones in the air demanding to know why. Helicopters would be flying over the dump and the owner of the landfill would be under siege for information. Yet here, nothing. How many landfills did they contact? what possible evidence are they relying on? Maybe they should send a search party to antarctica. I don't think they have searched there yet. The press should press these police to explain why 5 months later we are waiting on 8000 tons of garbage to be moved just so we can search a few hundred square feet of garbage in a landfill we were lead to believe was impossible for C to be there. If I paid taxes in Suffolk I would make sure some heads would roll. BUt instead the press allows them to release some puffery and faq's about how hard they worked and how many man hours they used, totally unchallenged.
I can't really explain why that call was made except to say it was an insurance policy/CYA scenario simply because of the bin lorry/phone pings. I guess things are done very differently in the US as that sounds like a total nightmare for LE and just isn't how things are done here. I'm sure the press have asked the why question even if off the record but I doubt SP would answer it.
And of course then we had the D notice allegedly so media wouldn't touch it with a barge pole initially. There is something fishy about the whole case IMO.I can't really explain why that call was made except to say it was an insurance policy/CYA scenario simply because of the bin lorry/phone pings. I guess things are done very differently in the US as that sounds like a total nightmare for LE and just isn't how things are done here. I'm sure the press have asked the why question even if off the record but I doubt SP would answer it.
In a sky tv interview UT said he knew where the lorry picked up and dropped off that morning. I originally thought malpractice but that interview cleared it up.Taking this a step further, there is a possibility that recycling is being taken to landfill without being sorted or transfered, with customers being charged for the recycling service but not actually getting it. That would not surprise me.
Taking this a step further, there is a possibility that recycling is being taken to landfill without being sorted or transfered, with customers being charged for the recycling service but not actually getting it. That would not surprise me.
I think that is certainly a possibility.
My main issue with any bin theory is how/why he was in a bin in the first place.
Exactly where did it pick up and drop off? Did UT tell us? And is there a link?In a sky tv interview UT said he knew where the lorry picked up and dropped off that morning. I originally thought malpractice but that interview cleared it up.
Exactly where did it pick up and drop off? Did UT tell us? And is there a link?
