Interesting to see that that majority of us think Corrie was put in the bin by another person, rather than climbing in himself for a sleep, 22 votes to 5 last time I looked.
Does this mean 4 minute man and old lurky legs are still in the frame? What about anyone else?
I'd really like to know what Corrie's family and friends think to the notion of him getting in the bin voluntarily. Had he done it before? Had it been talked about ever? Would he typically need more sleep having already had a nap? If someone suddenly said "oh he often slept rough after a night out, he once woke up in a skip" it would change things dramatically.
As one of those who voted for 'got into the bin voluntarily', I would like to say a few things about that.
Is 2 hours sleep enough for someone with all that drink and all that food? I can imagine that leading to a very heavy sleep which would be hard to disturb?
Corrie at 23 years old and military fit, I think shouldn't have a problem hoisting himself into the bin. Homeless people can do it, I see no reason that Corrie couldn't.
Corrie's been presented as a bit of an imp. And he's an imp with military training. I would think field training would teach people to look for resources that other people wouldn't consider a resource. So a large bin filled with cardboard might be seen as a resource for someone who wants a quiet place to sleep, more comfortable and warm than a shop doorway, and without passers-by noticing him sleeping in the street.
Why? That's always going to be the question, isn't it? The rest of us don't have regrets that led to our death. Why didn't I do this instead of that and save myself a whole lot of trouble? Most of us have those moments. Why did someone drive home drunk, end up in a horrible accident instead of calling a taxi? That's just one example.
Why didn't Corrie call a mate to take him home? Maybe in his drunken state it made more sense to wait in BSE for a few hours to sober up until he could drive his car home. Why not walk back to the car? We can't get into his head to know that.
I think the police will be looking closely at anyone passing the horseshoe between the time Corrie went in there and the bin lorry, but I think for the moment the public face of the investigation is focusing on finding Corrie.
I did think that Nicola might struggle with thinking Corrie climbed into the bin. She's been so focused on someone harming him/taking him etc, as have most people here, that it's difficult to do a 180 degree overnight. But in the BBC interview where she was visibly upset and saying about the 120k people on the FB page....it sounded like she was saying, "I didn't need to do this, I got them involved and caring because we all thought someone had hurt Corrie" and I wonder if the unspoken words were that she is accepting that there might not be anyone else involved. Have some of her interviews been talking more about "how was he missed" rather than "who put him in a bin?"
For those who think Corrie came to harm at the hands of another person(s), previously we would have said that didn't happen in the horseshoe due to lack of forensics (plus the awkward psychology of not simply running away and leaving the victim out of the bin). But what can we think of forensics now? We've been told no trace in the bin, no trace in the bin lorry, and yet now we're being told that's exactly where Corrie (probably) was. So what faith can we have about what we've been "told" about these things?
The other thing is that someone doesn't have to have a direct history of doing something in order to do it for the first time and it not have a happy ending. Darroch said Corrie would sleep anywhere if he needed to...the street, a bench, wherever. An imp with military-level improvisational skills..drunk and just eaten a very heavy meal....woke up from an unplanned nap to realise he was quite chilly and wasn't really sure what to do with himself while waiting to go back to the car? Did he then run into someone and end up in a fight, or did he choose an enclosed shelter with warm cardboard for a bed?
That would be my reasoning for my vote. But I could easily be wrong.
