GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #1

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It occured to me, late last night ! that the reason Helen was killed at that time ( ie April 11 ) was because IS was about to run out of tablets.

I know we have discussed where and how IS managed to get a further supply of zopiclone and the fact that, so far, there has been no mention of a repeat prescription or any evidence of an on line purchase.
And then I thought, sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one.
He didnt have any more tablets.
It was exactly 11 weeks from the day he got the tablets to the day Helen was killed ( working on the basis that she was killed on April 11 ).
So my belief is that he gave her 1 or 2 tablets for the first few weeks - as a one off dose, which would be the equivalent of almost a week's dosage for someone of Helen's size, so bound to have an effect.
Then, increased the dosage up to 3 tablets for say the final 5 weeks, which means, at a rough calculation, he would be coming to the end of the supply by early April. So he had to take his chance then, otherwise it would mean trying to get another prescription.
Again, from the evidence, we were told that Helen spoke with her mother on the Wednesday prior to the killing, saying she had slept for 5 hours following breakfast. I think that was probably the final confirmation for IS that he only needed to give the same dosage again to achieve the same result.
 
I think he probably will give evidence. His plea is so audacious that it speaks about his fighting nature. I also think his demeanour in court is by design, he wants to be seen as the victim in this. He wants sympathy. That is my take on him, 'how could I have done what they are accusing me of, look at me suffering, shocked and bereaved, I wouldn't hurt a fly'.
 
It's true that Zoplicone taste very bitter. The taste could be masked with something sweet though.

I have read quite a bit about zoplicone in the last week or so ! and I have read suggestions from some people as to how to mask the taste, by taking the tablet * buried* within food, so that the person can swallow the tablet without it touching the sides of the mouth. However, even they have said, that although this helps initially, then after half an hour or so, they got a metallic taste in their mouth, when the tablet had the chemical reaction with their system.
And, of course, it is highly unlikely that IS could administer the zoplicone to Helen as a tablet, it would have to be crushed, I would think.
Which is another reason why I think he did one off large dosages, say once a week, rather than on a daily basis. Less chance of Helen wondering why she was constantly getting a metallic taste and perhaps trying to source a reason for it -by visiting her doctor or dentist.
 
It occured to me, late last night ! that the reason Helen was killed at that time ( ie April 11 ) was because IS was about to run out of tablets.

I know we have discussed where and how IS managed to get a further supply of zopiclone and the fact that, so far, there has been no mention of a repeat prescription or any evidence of an on line purchase.
And then I thought, sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one.
He didnt have any more tablets.
It was exactly 11 weeks from the day he got the tablets to the day Helen was killed ( working on the basis that she was killed on April 11 ).
So my belief is that he gave her 1 or 2 tablets for the first few weeks - as a one off dose, which would be the equivalent of almost a week's dosage for someone of Helen's size, so bound to have an effect.
Then, increased the dosage up to 3 tablets for say the final 5 weeks, which means, at a rough calculation, he would be coming to the end of the supply by early April. So he had to take his chance then, otherwise it would mean trying to get another prescription.
Again, from the evidence, we were told that Helen spoke with her mother on the Wednesday prior to the killing, saying she had slept for 5 hours following breakfast. I think that was probably the final confirmation for IS that he only needed to give the same dosage again to achieve the same result.

Let's not forget that he never produced his phone to the police, so there was something on there that he hid. And his computer had been wiped, the only piece of information they could glean from it was his attempts to change the bank transfer. So he could have made purchases online. I'm more inclined to think the date was something to do with the sale of Helen's property, if it's true she had papers from her solicitor to sign.
 
Respectfully Snipped By Me [RSBM]

Re Helen's friend Tracey who was questioned today, something I read yesterday led me to believe the 'conversation'/'duscussion' with Tracey re wedding venues etc had been a vocal conversation by telephone.

It is now far less clear to me that they spoke in person [e.g on the phone] on the morning Helen apparently 'disappeared' and it is possible they only 'discussed' things by email. If that is the case then I am wondering why anyone can be so sure those emails were legitimately written by Helen.

Thanks everyone for posting the during the day's proceedings.


RSBM & BBM

IMHO If this conversation had gone by email, these messages would have been examinded and studied in detail by now.
It is very difficult to impersonate another person during a written interaction with someone who knows this person well, and the longer the conversation takes, the more difficult it becomes.
HB was an author so she had a way with words. It would be easier for HER to impersonate HIM than it would be for IS to act like HB during a conversation about bridal venues and appear in good spirits too.

IMHO they were talking by telephone.
 
Let's not forget that he never produced his phone to the police, so there was something on there that he hid. And his computer had been wiped, the only piece of information they could glean from it was his attempts to change the bank transfer. So he could have made purchases online. I'm more inclined to think the date was something to do with the sale of Helen's property, if it's true she had papers from her solicitor to sign.

An on line purchase would require using some kind of card or electronic transfer of money, but for sure there was something on that phone that he didnt want them to see.

Not sure re the Gateshead property. Clearly he cant lie about the solicitor visit so I am inclined to think that papers did need to be dropped off, but that there probably was not a deadline date for this, just something that Helen needed to do at some time. So IS used this as a great alibi to give him a few hours out of the house, allowing time for Helen to return from her walk along Green Drift, get packed and depart for Broadstairs.
 
Let's not forget that he never produced his phone to the police, so there was something on there that he hid. And his computer had been wiped, the only piece of information they could glean from it was his attempts to change the bank transfer. So he could have made purchases online. I'm more inclined to think the date was something to do with the sale of Helen's property, if it's true she had papers from her solicitor to sign.

The act of wiping of a computer shouts 'guilty' very loudly indeed. I really cannot imagine what sort of defence he thinks will work.
 
RSBM & BBM

IMHO If this conversation had gone by email, these messages would have been examinded and studied in detail by now.
It is very difficult to impersonate another person during a written interaction with someone who knows this person well, and the longer the conversation takes, the more difficult it becomes.
HB was an author so she had a way with words. It would be easier for HER to impersonate HIM than it would be for IS to act like HB during a conversation about bridal venues and appear in good spirits too.

IMHO they were talking by telephone.

I agree. Even if the * conversation* was email and or text only, it is hard to capture another person's style, particularly I would have thought, someone like Helen.
( slightly OT but have seen posters do this - not on WS but other boards - where they try to create a different identity, but it never works ).
I think IS administered the final dose sometime shortly after Helen's last contact - 10.51am.
Perhaps he made her a cup of tea and / or a snack ( whatever he used to disguise the drug ).
Then, another half an hour or so for the drug to take effect - take the time to around 11.45 ish, which is when ISs phone stopped being active and remained so until about 1pm.
 
Liz Summers ‏@LizSummers 1m1 minute ago

The jury in the #HelenBailey murder trial inspecting the author's #Royston home where her body was found in a cesspit under the garage


Helens home Royston January 13, 2017.jpg
 
RSBM & BBM

IMHO If this conversation had gone by email, these messages would have been examinded and studied in detail by now.
It is very difficult to impersonate another person during a written interaction with someone who knows this person well, and the longer the conversation takes, the more difficult it becomes.
HB was an author so she had a way with words. It would be easier for HER to impersonate HIM than it would be for IS to act like HB during a conversation about bridal venues and appear in good spirits too.

IMHO they were talking by telephone.

On The Cambridge News, it states it was by email:


On April 11 last year - the alleged date of Ms Bailey’s murder - Ms Stratton exchanged emails with Ms Bailey about wedding dresses and the venue. “There was nothing then to make me think there was anything wrong, she was excited about the future,” she added.

At 12.10pm the same day Ms Stratton called Ms Bailey on her mobile and texted her afterwards, but got no answer.

She told jurors: “I tried to call her throughout the day but it went to voicemail every time. This was very unusual.

“I was immediately quite worried. Things just weren’t right.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/author-helen-bailey-planned-marry-12445738


I would bet my last pound that it was Helen herself emailing her friend. I'm not sure that it adds any advantage (to him) for him to be answering her emails that morning. He was claiming she was somewhere else. If he wanted to perpetuate the myth that she was "driving her Jeep in Royston" (i.e. trying to build the narrative about her upsetting near-crash experience, hence not taking her car to Broadstairs), he wouldn't be answering her emails for her at this time also. The emails incriminate him, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have sent them himself - but I'm glad that Helen did.
 
Murder trial of author Helen Bailey: A round up of the evidence so far

A round up of all the evidence heard so far in the Helen Bailey murder trial at St Albans Crown Court

The fiancé of wealthy children’s author Helen Bailey allegedly slowly drugged her for months before murdering her and dumping her body, together with her pet dog, into a hidden underground cesspit at their £1.5million home.

Ms Bailey’s fiancé, Ian Stewart of Baldock Road in Royston, is alleged to have slowly drugged her for months with sleeping drug Zopiclone before killing her and dumping her body, together with her dog Boris, into the cess pit.

Stewart denies murder, fraud, preventing a lawful burial and three counts of perverting the course of justice.

The 56-year-old, who is standing trial at St Alban’s Crown Court, claims that two men named just Joe and Nick were responsible for the murder and disposal of Ms Bailey’s body.

Helen Bailey murder trial day one: Children's author fiance accused of killing and dumping her in cesspit

Ms Bailey’s body, and the body of her dog, were found during a further search of her Royston house after police discovered a second cesspit under the garage. Ms Bailey was found three months after she was reported missing by Stewart.

Opening the case on Tuesday, prosecutor Stuart Trimmer said Ms Bailey and Stewart had planned to marry, but plans were made that if she died before the wedding then Stewart would obtain the house and a ‘very financial advantage’.

The defendant allegedly murdered Ms Bailey, “probably by suffocation” between 10.51am and 2.30pm on Monday April 11, 2016.

Before she died, Ms Bailey told family members she was worried she was losing her memory, and internet searches were made by her as to why she kept falling asleep, the court was told.

Helen Bailey murder trial DAY TWO: Children's author fiancé accused of drugging her for months before killing

At 3.57pm the following day, Stewart reported Ms Bailey missing before “sitting back and watching as police conducted what he knew to be a futile missing person’s investigation”, the prosecution claim.

The prosecution state that Stewart carried out a “cynically executed murder” that had “money as its driving motive”.

So far in the trial, jurors have heard:

Wednesday

Consultant forensic pathologist Nathaniel Carey, who said that if Ms Bailey was sedated, she could have been killed by “more subtle means” which showed no visual injuries, including an arm lock or a sleeper hold.
Giving evidence on Tuesday (January 10) he said the cause of Helen’s death was officially listed as "undetermined" and that it was unlikely that natural causes resulted or played any part in her death.

He added: “It’s possible she could have been put down the well in an unconscious state [and then drowned], that would be another possibility to consider. I wouldn’t be able to completely exclude that. It’s so scenario dependent.

“It seems that not only was Helen concealed by a third party, but it seems it was likely she died at the hands of a third party by some means.”

Dr Afshan Kahn, a GP who prescribed Stewart with Zopiclone, said Stewart came to see her and said he was finding it difficult to sleep.
“The record showed that he had previously used Zopiclone, and it had helped him”, she told jurors.

Dr Kahn said Zopiclone is a “very safe, mild, sleeping drug” and is one of the safest of this type of medication.

Stewart had previously been supplied Zopiclone in August 2010 and June 2005, the court heard.

“I don’t think there would have been anything about his behaviour when I met him which concerned me. If there had been, I would have acted upon it”, she added.

Dr Kahn agreed with the defence barrister that Zopiclone was not a ‘heavy duty, knockout, sleeping drug.’

Helen Bailey murder trial DAY THREE: Author joked old well 'would be a good place to hide a body'

Dr Mark Piper, a forensic toxicologist, was next to give evidence on Wednesday and suggested that Helen may have been fighting the side-effects of the drug to stay awake.

He told jurors that side effects of the drug include short term amnesia - someone who might worry about their state of mind.

He said: “If taking the Zopiclone drug in the morning, it would have the same effect than in the evening.

“If taken in the morning you would effectively be fighting the side effects [of the drug] to stay awake.”

Body samples from Helen’s body were analysed for prescription drugs and Zopiclone was detected, jurors were told.

Under cross examination by the defence, Dr Piper said he couldn’t confirm whether the drug was taken [by Helen] knowingly or not.

He admitted that his answers are based on the assumption that Helen Bailey died on April 11, 2016.

Fiancé of wealthy Royston author Helen Bailey accused of 'slowly drugging her for months before murdering her'

At the end of the day on Wednesday (January 11), jurors heard a statement from Dr Jonathan Williams, the vet who conducted a postmortem of Helen’s dog Boris.

On July 19 Dr Williams was asked to establish cause of death, timing of death, and whether Boris was alive or dead when it went into the [septic] tank.

He said: “The postmortem was performed on the dog. The animal was in good nutritional condition. It was well cared for, its nails were trimmed appropriately.

“However, due to the very poor preservation of the carcass due to severe postmortem self-digestion, this interpretation was extremely compromised.

“It cannot be established whether the animal was alive or dead when it was placed in the septic tank.”

He said while a small amount of foreign material, likely septic tank debris, was found in the trachea of the dog, this did not extend into the lower airways, and the lungs did not appear heavy or wet.

Dr Williams said taking all the findings into account, he could not confirm whether the animal drowned, and confirming drowning in this case would require additional evidence.

Thursday

On Thursday (January 12), jurors heard from John Bailey, Ms Bailey’s brother, who said he had first seen the Royston house in August 2013 and was shown round by his sister.

Mr Bailey said during that visit, “one or both” of the couple mentioned an old well in the garage.

He added: “I asked had they [Stewart and my sister] looked in the well, and was told no, it wasn’t that kind of a well.

“There was some banter, almost certainly instigated by Helen, that it would be a good place to hide a body.”

Helen Bailey could have been killed by more subtle means, including an arm lock or a sleeper hold

He said the well "never ever featured” in his consciousness at any time during his sister’s disappearance.

Mr Bailey said it was only when he was told by a detective constable where his sister’s body had been found on July 15 last year that his recollection of the previous conversation came back.

Mr Bailey also said he went to look for his sister at her house in Broadstairs, Kent, on April 14, 2016, after Stewart told him Ms Bailey had left a note saying she needed time alone.

He said friends of Ms Bailey had contacted him worried about being unable to reach her, and that he searched for her to no avail, even walking along the promenade in Broadstairs.

Tracey Stratton, a friend of Ms Bailey, gave evidence to the court on Thursday afternoon.
She told jurors that she had known Helen for 15 years, adding: “I was close to Helen. After her husband died, I more or less moved in with her for a while.”

Tracey said Helen then moved in with Stewart and got a house in Royston.

“She was happy in Royston, it was just an adjustment. She confided in me that she might get married to Ian in January 2016”, she said.

Tracey also told jurors of her frantic attempts to get in touch with Ms Bailey on the day she was allegedly murdered – adding that Ms Bailey ‘always responded’ to missed calls and texts.

Traces of sleeping drug found in Helen Bailey's hair, court told

On April 11 last year - the alleged date of Ms Bailey’s murder - Tracey exchanged emails with Ms Bailey about wedding dresses and the venue. “There was nothing then to make me think there was anything wrong, she was excited about the future”, she added.

At 12.10pm the same day Tracey called Ms Bailey on her mobile and text her afterwards, but got no answer.

She told jurors: “I tried to call her throughout the day but it went to voicemail every time. This was very unusual.

“I was immediately quite worried. Things just weren’t right.”

Author Helen Bailey joked hidden cesspit 'would be a good place to hide a body' prior to her death

She said there were no issues or problems raised by Ms Bailey in respect of her relationship with Stewart.

The trial continues.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/murder-trial-author-helen-bailey-12448151
 
Liz Summers ‏@LizSummers 14m14 minutes ago

Photographs show the garage where #HelenBailey was found dead in a cesspit alongside her beloved dachshund Boris

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Good grief. No wonder they didn't find it on the initial searches.

Not what I had pictured at all.

Poor Helen & Boris. :tears:
 
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