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Okay, Ripper fans (in a manner of speaking, of course).

Whodunnit?

A year or so ago I returned to first principles and named Mr Montague John Druitt as the Lad, mostly on account of my having not made much alternative headway in the 50 or so years after having first become fascinated with this topic.

So don't be shy. We'll never know the "real" identity of Jack -- part of this case's deadly allure, that.

But who ya think dunnit, if I might be so grammatically incorrect (in search, of course, of larger truths)?
 
I'd put William Hardiman on top followed by W.H. Bury, Druitt and George Chapman.

All four definately either killed others or themselves.
 
40 years ago my picks would have been Druitt, Chapman/Klosowski and J.K. Stephen so the first two have been on my list for quite some time.
 
I'd say it's someone we've never heard of. A resident or worker in the area.
 
Six women I've seen named as possibly Jack(ie) the Ripper-Can anyone think of others?

1-Constance Kent
2-Mary Hughes Williams
3-Olga Tchkersoff
4-Helena von Hahn Blavatsky
5-Elizabeth Halliday
6-Mary Wheeler Pearcey
 
As best I can tell the last individuals connected to the case to die:

Walter Dew, the last major investigator in the case. He died in 1947.

William Smith, the last confirmed witness who saw the body of a Ripper victim and earlier a man with her who may have been JtR. He died in 1951.

Dr. Dennis Halsted, the last individual who could in any way be called a Ripper suspect. He died in 1960.

Annie Tapper, the last minor witness who claimed to have seen JtR. She died in 1964.

Lewis Keaton, the last person to be connected to the contemporary Ripper investigation. He died in 1970.
 
LadyL said:
I was thinking exactly the same thing.

I hope I get to see these files in my lifetime. I think the Ripper was my first foray into crime mysteries.
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It was my first introduction into crime too, and I always say I can't die before it's public and irrefutable evidence comes to light about his identify. :)
I was never a fan of the royal theory but the fact that they won't release the files is puzzling.
What about if they found he was a police officer or he was a public informant or they just knew who he was and let him escape? All of that would look very bad for LE, just MOO as always

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wfgodot said:
Okay, Ripper fans (in a manner of speaking, of course).

Whodunnit?

A year or so ago I returned to first principles and named Mr Montague John Druitt as the Lad, mostly on account of my having not made much alternative headway in the 50 or so years after having first become fascinated with this topic.

So don't be shy. We'll never know the "real" identity of Jack -- part of this case's deadly allure, that.

But who ya think dunnit, if I might be so grammatically incorrect (in search, of course, of larger truths)?
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Quoting self merely from curiosity.
 
wfgodot said:
Quoting self merely from curiosity.
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Of course we will know, one can dream right? I just can't accept the fact that I'll never know. Yeah I know I live in denial about that. ;)

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kline said:
If I had to go with any of the known suspects I would still pick Montague Druitt who many of contemporary investigators felt was the Ripper.
He loaded his pockets with rocks and took a long walk off a short pier straight into the Thames in late 1888 shortly after the horrific butchery of Mary Kelly.
But I wouldnt be at all surprised and suspect the Ripper was a nobody who is lost to history. Even though folks have lots of fun contemplating the 'High Profile ' suspects.
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I realize this post is over 4 years old. However, it sums up my feelings/intuition/research exactly.

I think most people, when starting the Ripper hunt, do hone in on Druitt. He does seem the most likely suspect; most times it is better/truer to stick to the one who fits the bill, which he does.

On the other hand, there is a "nobody", who is not a "nobody", but has never been linked to the Ripper case whom I have been looking into VERY seriously. And, no, he is not a royal that I know of, but he did achieve notoriaty on the world stage in other ways.

If anyone is interested in a new candidate for Ripper fame, let's chat.

I may be wrong, but this person has a LOT of possibles for being Saucy Jack. In my opinion, of course.
 
Trident said:
I realize this post is over 4 years old. However, it sums up my feelings/intuition/research exactly.

I think most people, when starting the Ripper hunt, do hone in on Druitt. He does seem the most likely suspect; most times it is better/truer to stick to the one who fits the bill, which he does.

On the other hand, there is a "nobody", who is not a "nobody", but has never been linked to the Ripper case whom I have been looking into VERY seriously. And, no, he is not a royal that I know of, but he did achieve notoriaty on the world stage in other ways.

If anyone is interested in a new candidate for Ripper fame, let's chat.

I may be wrong, but this person has a LOT of possibles for being Saucy Jack. In my opinion, of course.
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Well, bring it on. Thanks to Stan & wfgodot I've been all over the casebook site & the Maybrick diary & watch consideration. I do have to cook later.
 
wfgodot said:
Before it's all said and done, we each of us will be named persons of interest in the Ripper matter.

Jack the Ripper was Whitechapel meat cart driver, claims criminologist (Daily Mail)
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After watching the Channel 5 documentary which offers up Charles Allen Lechmere as a prime suspect for Jack the Ripper I have a few questions:

If the two co-witnesses Robert Paul and Charles Letchmere crossed paths at similar times on their way to work every morning then why would Letchmere risk getting caught carrying out the murder at this time and place? Either a hasty opportunity presented itself in the form of victim prostitute Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols that he couldn’t refuse or he wasn’t the intelligent criminal we perceive the Ripper to be – which conflicts with his behaviour post-murder where it is believed that he crafted such a skilful lie as to not arouse suspicion with PC Jonas Mizen.

When Letchmere informs PC Jonas Mizen that “…a woman was lying on Buck’s Row and that another policeman requested his presence there” why does Robert Paul keep quiet and not refute this? And If Paul had spoken up PC Mizen would be hearing two conflicting reports from two eye witnesses providing enough suspicion for PC Mizen to detain both men for further questioning.

Upon coming across PC Mizen Charles Letchmere informs him that a woman is lying in the street “… and that another policeman requested his presence there”. This is believed to be a ruse by Letchmere in order to escape further questioning by PC Mizen however this request for assistance does not appear to be officially confirmed by PC Neil other than he reports to have seen two slaughterhouse workman in the area around the same time. Are these men Letchmere and Paul? PC Neil doesn’t confirm this. Could these two unknown men who are at the scene at the time of the murder in slaughterhouse work wear that can easily explain away blood stains be the Ripper(s) instead?

Has there been any research into Robert Paul to the extent that it has been for Letchmere? Do we know if these men were known to each other prior to this event?

http://www.channel5.com/shows/conspiracy-the-missing-evidence/episodes/episode-3-616 (unavailable in Australia)

https://unsolvedwhitechapel.wordpress.com/
 
Apparently, Mary Kelly's body is about to be exhumed for DNA in connection with a new suspect named Francis Craig.
 
STANDREID said:
Apparently, Mary Kelly's body is about to be exhumed for DNA in connection with a new suspect named Francis Craig.
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A man who believes that he is related to "Kelly" thinks that her real name was Elizabeth Davies and that she had been married to Craig, a newspaper reporter. Not getting my hopes up.
 
No hopes raised here either, SDR, though "Finding out who was really Jack the Lad" has been on my bucket list since long before the term "bucket list" entered the lingo, and definitive proof would probably then trigger a "Lord now lettest though Thy servant depart in peace"-like ending, in which case I would then depart this veil of tears more knowledgeable but of course dead.

Perhaps better then not to know!
 
STANDREID said:
A man who believes that he is related to "Kelly" thinks that her real name was Elizabeth Davies and that she had been married to Craig, a newspaper reporter. Not getting my hopes up.
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Elizabeth Davies Craig was 32 in 1888. I have long suspected the "Kelly" might have been older than she told everyone. Like I said, I'm doubtful but this theory is more intriguing to me than anything else that's come along in the last few decades. It will probably be difficult to find any remains of Kelly even if they get the final go ahead to exhume her.
 
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