UK UK - Jill Dando, 37, Fulham, London, 26 Apr 1999

[sl77]

That ledger says "replica" so how can someone use the ledger to claim it was a murder weapon?

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious??

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

That ledger says "replica" so how can someone use the ledger to claim it was a murder weapon?

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious??

Respectfully, all of this is clearly explained in the documentaries a number of us keep advising you to watch.

What BG called a "replica" wasn't a "replica" at all. It was a blank-firing starter pistol. The lead investigator and other experts go into detail about all of it in the documentaries.

 

[sl77]

Respectfully, all of this is clearly explained in the documentaries a number of us keep advising you to watch.

What BG called a "replica" wasn't a "replica" at all. It was a blank-firing starter pistol. The lead investigator and other experts go into detail about all of it in the documentaries.

Fair point but I have watched them, 4x from recollection (BBC one last week, ITV one with Julia Echington, one with an ex detective/investigator on Youtube and Netflix). The Netflix one was 3x 1 hour episodes. Unfortunately I don't remember every part.

I think the weakness in your argument is you're choosing the ledger as evidence, but then admitting some of the details are wrong. If he got "replica" wrong, he could quite easily have the gun model wrong too, which makes the ledger worthless.

In other words, we cannot pick & choose which parts of the ledger are correct/incorrect.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

Fair point but I have watched them, 4x from recollection (BBC one last week, ITV one with Julia Echington, one with an ex detective/investigator on Youtube and Netflix). The Netflix one was 3x 1 hour episodes. Unfortunately I don't remember every part.

I think the weakness in your argument is you're choosing the ledger as evidence, but then admitting some of the details are wrong. If he got "replica" wrong, he could quite easily have the gun model wrong too, which makes the ledger worthless.

In other words, we cannot pick & choose which parts of the ledger are correct/incorrect.

It's not just random little old me saying this. It's not *my* argument. It's the investigators and experts who know what they're talking about who are saying this.

The gun model written on the ledger is the exact model of gun BG is holding in the photograph, according to Metropolitan Police firearms experts. Despite listing the gun under "replica's" (sic) BG does in fact note, in his own handwriting, "blank firing".

Whether it was written under "replicas" incorrectly, or whether it was an attempt at obfuscation because handguns had been illegal in England since 1996, I don't know. What I do know is that there's evidence in BG's own handwriting showing he had purchased that exact model of blank firing weapon; and there's a photograph of him holding exactly that model of weapon.

Without the photograph you might be able to argue the ledger was meaningless. Without the ledger you might be able to argue the photograph was meaningless. Together, they corroborate that BG was in possession of the exact model of gun which experts said could have been used to shoot Jill. One of only a small number of models which could have been.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The three-part series, which is set for release on September 26, takes an in-depth look at the unsolved murder of the celebrated BBC journalist, who was shot dead outside her London home in April 1999 at the age of 37.

In the brief teaser, Dando is described as a “TV Diana”, with prominent commentators discussing her glittering career and the impact of her murder.

It also features interviews with Barry George, the man who was wrongly convicted of Dando’s murder in September 2001. George, who lived locally to Dando in West London, was eventually acquitted in August 2008 after discrepancies with original evidence came to light.

Netflix shares first trailer for Jill Dando true crime documentary

The documentary takes an in-depth look at the murder of the celebrated BBC star.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[WestLondoner]

This is from August last year.

 

[CSIAngus]

The three-part series, which is set for release on September 26, takes an in-depth look at the unsolved murder of the celebrated BBC journalist, who was shot dead outside her London home in April 1999 at the age of 37.

In the brief teaser, Dando is described as a “TV Diana”, with prominent commentators discussing her glittering career and the impact of her murder.

It also features interviews with Barry George, the man who was wrongly convicted of Dando’s murder in September 2001. George, who lived locally to Dando in West London, was eventually acquitted in August 2008 after discrepancies with original evidence came to light.

Netflix shares first trailer for Jill Dando true crime documentary

The documentary takes an in-depth look at the murder of the celebrated BBC star.

uk.news.yahoo.com

Just taken out a Netflix subscription and having binged the series tonight, I remain convinced that Barry George did not murder Jill Dando. He's not clever enough to have done it and not admit to it. Michael Mansfield is rarely wrong. Unfortunately, like the Geordie Ripper, the investigators went down the wrong tunnel and became blind to what was staring themselves in the face. It was not a random murder, but a planned killing, and that's not Barry George. MOO

 

[CSIAngus]

Just taken out a Netflix subscription and having binged the series tonight, I remain convinced that Barry George did not murder Jill Dando. He's not clever enough to have done it and not admit to it. Michael Mansfield is rarely wrong. Unfortunately, like the Geordie Ripper, the investigators went down the wrong tunnel and became blind to what was staring themselves in the face. It was not a random murder, but a planned killing, and that's not Barry George. MOO

I also find it bizarre, given that the retrial jury acquitted Barry George and the Judge said that he has been found not guilty and is a free man, for him not to be given compensation for the 8 years of now found to be wrongful imprisonment. Compensation, like the law, should be equally applied. MOO

 

[lostboy182]

Just taken out a Netflix subscription and having binged the series tonight, I remain convinced that Barry George did not murder Jill Dando. He's not clever enough to have done it and not admit to it. Michael Mansfield is rarely wrong. Unfortunately, like the Geordie Ripper, the investigators went down the wrong tunnel and became blind to what was staring themselves in the face. It was not a random murder, but a planned killing, and that's not Barry George. MOO

I guess the only issue is how would it be planned, when it was an unplanned Monday morning visit Jill made to her old home to collect letters (sha had already moved out)?

Also how did you feel about Barry blatantly lying that the masked photo of him holding a gun in his own flat wasnt him.

 

[CSIAngus]

I guess the only issue is how would it be planned, when it was an unplanned Monday morning visit Jill made to her old home to collect letters (sha had already moved out)?

Also how did you feel about Barry blatantly lying that the masked photo of him holding a gun in his own flat wasnt him.

It wasn't difficult to hack mobile phones back then. If the plan was to take her out, it could easily have been planned by a professional. The tabloids regularly hacked celebrity phones back then.

The gun mask photo is on the outside edge of circumstantial. BG doesn't have the intellectual capacity to have consistently lied from then until now. He's not who I would want for a next door neighbour, but I don't believe he murdered Jill Dando. MOO

 

[davidt]

I guess the only issue is how would it be planned, when it was an unplanned Monday morning visit Jill made to her old home to collect letters (sha had already moved out)?

Also how did you feel about Barry blatantly lying that the masked photo of him holding a gun in his own flat wasnt him.

I think the planning or lack thereof is one of the elephants in the room. As I understand it and apologies if I'm wrong the police reviewed tons of CCTV and found nothing at all to suggest she was followed.

If they're correct that means someone was waiting for her in the vicinity of her property.

In turn surely that either means someone knew she would be visiting or (from their point of view) someone got very lucky. Initial reaction presumably was to find out who she told about her visit and in turn who they in turn told as well. It does seem very unlikely BG would be in a position to know any of this. So did he just strike lucky or was it someone else? I know I asked before but is it known if BG routinely carried a gun with him or loitored around her property?If not it appears on the day in question he just happened to be in the right place with a gun at the right time. JD was extremely unlucky if that was the case. I can't say BG is innocent because part of me thinks it may be him. May be a small part of the story we don't yet know will explain things very simply.

 

[WiseOwl]

The police stated that only three people knew where Jill would be that morning, her fiancé, her ex and her agent. There was a fourth person who knew though, her next-door neighbour who said Jill often popped home on a Monday morning.

The 2023 documentary saw the police clearing her ex of any involvement, while they sort of 'half-cleared' her agent, but they never commented on her fiancé at all, which i always thought was rather strange.

 

[dotr]

Cannot shake the idea that JD was murdered to put a stop to the forthcoming marriage, speculation, imo.

Inside heartbreak of Jill Dando's fiancé as she murdered months before wedding

TRAGIC Alan Farthing suffered heartbreak as his fiancée Jill Dando was murdered just months before their wedding day. TV star Jill’s partner has previously spoken of his trauma after she was …

www.thesun.co.uk

2023 rbbm

Jill Dando and Alan Farthing had set a date for their wedding just before her deathCredit: Rex Features
''She and Alan had only recently got engaged and were scheduled to wed later that year on September 25, almost five months to the day along from her death.''

'He and Jill first met on on a blind date at a dinner party in 1997 before announcing their engagement on January 31 1999 - less than three months before her murder.'
''She had left Farthing's home in Chiswick, west London, on the morning of her death - returning alone by car to her Fulham property.''

 

[WestLondoner]

The argument that nobody trailed her home therefore it can't have been BG (paraphrasing) seems inconclusive to me. If nobody trailed her home, then nobody else killed her either.

The idea of a professional hit seems far fetched too. First, frankly JD was a minor light entertainment presenter with a minimal public profile. Jeremy Paxman or Andrew Neill she wasn't, so she's a highly improbable target. Second, a professional would have shot more than once to make sure, probably after following her inside her house so as to be unobserved, and would have had a getaway planned.