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I'm beginning to think that this was an extremely violent brutal attack where he was on her the minute she opened the door. I was thinking that she retreated to the bedroom and he followed, but that would mean that he left the front door wide open, and that doesn't make sense. Did he grab her around the neck with his arm, turn around and close the door, then take her to the bedroom? For some reason he wants us to believe that after attacking her in the kitchen, he allegedly took her to the bedroom and laid her on the bed .and then he carried her gently, one arm under her knees and the other under her back, out the entrance.
If that happened, that he turned around and locked the door, what happened between 8:40 and 9:25 or 8:50 and 9:20? Is that when her nose was broken, her wrists were bruised, she got blood under her watch strap, in her hair and on her blouse, her torso was bruised, one sock was removed? How did the blood get onto the sole of her sock? After the attack, did he latch the door, return home, text his girlfriend, have a beer and then think he had to clean up the evidence ... so he moved his car, put Joanna out the window, got his bike bag, put her in the car and then messed with his girlfriend's head for a few weeks?
I didn't know that he read her email. Where or how was that information made public? Is there a link?
Reading her work email would suggest that he was peeking into her life in a way that was unhealthy, although it is not unusual for married couples to have each other's passwords. Are you suggesting that he was insecure in his relationship with the woman he met on the internet? Was he possessive and demanding? The prosecutor suggested that he manipulated her after the murder, with VT at one point insisting that she return from something early because he was distressed about the murder.
Comments from the girlfriend's father, early on, suggest that VT's relationship with his girlfriend was intact.
Will do Otto.
Do you think the dull thud that was heard could have been VT's heel pushing the door closed while he held Jo ?
Edited to add- the sound would be dulled (if that's a word) if he fell back against it.
I still think there's not conclusive proof that he intended to kill her though and if I were a juror, I'd go for not guilty.
Lots of us said before that he'd make his story fit the known evidence and sanitise it to exclude any unknown negative aspects. His prolific use of "dunno" and "can't remember" about how JY sustained a fractured nose before death (which bled) and significant grip marks on her wrists just emphasise how much he's withholding from the jury. If he can remember that he put one hand on her mouth and another around her throat then he can remember gripping her wrists hard before that and causing her other injuries. It's also bizarre that he "can't remember" how he got a 6cm x 1cm wound on his arm - that's not a minor cut/graze.
I still think there's not conclusive proof that he intended to kill her though and if I were a juror, I'd go for not guilty.
I'm finding this really worrying...After all that time, the jury didn't understand what they were meant to be deciding.:maddening:
Unfortunately I don't have a link to the detils of him checking her emails but it was part of the prosecutions opening statement. His constant texting, emails and calls to TM definitely suggest he was needy and insecure to me
I'm finding this really worrying...