Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher, 19, Emerson Valley, Milton Keynes, 14 Feb 2019 #2

[Loz2381]

I am surprised this is the only cctv image they have of her on her journey to work.

Are you from Milton Keynes? Because if you were you would know that how it is designed is mainly residential with no main CCTV network except up the city centre. There are small groups of shops in each estate but they are not randomly scattered around so there will only be residents CCTV for the bulk of her route into work. There are more residents getting CCTV now but it’s still not something every house has yet. It’s quite a low risk area as it’s some of the more sought after estates in Milton Keynes that she walks through so lots of owners will not feel the need to have cameras. I hope this explains things.

 

[Sera]

I reckon I need to look at it again.

I've just realised you might be talking about the footage of her going into work from the day before. In that video, she walks inside through some doors. If that's the video you're thinking about then you're right, the camera is indoors but it's at her place of work, not just in a random house

 

[Pinkizzy]

Thanks. I was referring to the snowy image on Buzzacock Ln - defo outside not inside

 

[Pinkizzy]

This is one of the sites for mobile mast information - www.mastdata.com

 

[Loz2381]

This is one of the sites for mobile mast information - www.mastdata.com

I have just entered my postcode as I actually live in the same estate as Leah. There are masts very close to us. Situated along the A421 road by Emerson Valley and Furzton. This is probably where the last signal was. It is also very unlikely she was not in signal coverage.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

7 weeks. Thinking of you, Leah.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

7 weeks ago Leah set off for work and just vanished. Hopefully someone will do the right thing and not let it go on any longer. This must be sheer torture for her family.

 

[ly502]

Several points to make regarding the delay in notifying the parents:

1. She was 19 she was legally an adult to discuss her affairs with others the employer has to have a reasonable concern under a duty of care for her wellbeing or safety to be able to breach this confidence.

2. Having been a manager of young people I have had multiple experience with people not turning up to work, not notifying the business and having to be chased to find out where they are. So if the business has a large proportion of younger staff this might not have been out of the ordinary even though Leah has been known to be reliable.

3. When lots of employees complete their personal information on employment forms most of them do not provide any other number than their mobile.

4. I have also have had a 19 year old step son who lived with us. He didn’t communicate with us a lot of the time we had no idea if he had holiday from work or not. We also found out that on a good few occasions he also took unauthorised absence from work and we had no idea. With hindsight he could have gone missing for a lot longer than it took the parents to report before we would have realised he was missing. So the parents acts were not that delayed.

Sorry for the long post but I thought it was worth pointing these factors out.

Agree 100%...I had posted something similar a while back, but you are much more articulate I don't think there was much of a delay at all really. It actually seemed like a pretty reasonable timeline. She is an adult...I am actually surprised coworkers contacted her family so quickly. Then they really know something is wrong when she misses dinner or coming home in the evening when she normally would have. For instance, family said they saw her about 10pm the night before she went missing and was rarely out later than that. So, their worry likely escalated as the evening progressed toward the time when she would typically be home for the evening.

After following quite a few cases from the UK since I joined WS a few months back, I am actually very impressed with LE there. So many people in the US are dismissed when they report someone missing - especially an adult. A search is often delayed for many days if not weeks until it is really viewed as suspicious - because adults are "allowed" to go missing. The fact that LE gets involved so quickly, at least in the cases I have been following, is encouraging. They take people seriously when a family is genuinely concerned and they seem to believe families when they say it is "out of character" for a person who goes missing. LE seems to trust the opinions and concerns of family and friends.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Perhaps we are more creatures of habit. I expect being a smaller/fewer countries helps and broadly similar laws/byelaws.

 

[ly502]

Perhaps we are more creatures of habit. I expect being a smaller/fewer countries helps and broadly similar laws/byelaws.

I think this is true to an extent. In the US, LE is so overwhelmed, especially in large cities. But there also is the sense from LE that families just "think they know" their family members - but that teenagers/young adults hide information from parents all the time, and so these cases are dismissed until it is possibly too late

 

[Plod]

I still think it’s someone she knows or met, and they’ve waited for her and offered her a lift. The phone was switched off quickly so the person must have got the phone off her pretty quickly. I have a hunch the police are keeping an eye on someone and know more than we do.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Leah is 7 weeks missing. No anniversary update, appeal, new photos or videos, vigils, gatherings or walks so far. I'm hoping the 'no news is good news' and an update comes soon.

 

[Skigh]

Leah is 7 weeks missing. No anniversary update, appeal, new photos or videos, vigils, gatherings or walks so far. I'm hoping the 'no news is good news' and an update comes soon.

As I have said before there is something about this case that does not seem quite right to me.
it does not fit the pattern of other missing young girls.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

I don’t even know what to say about it any more. Whatever happens or has happened I definitely think it is a case to learn from.

I can’t understand it at all.

 

[Jules77]

Imo I feel this was planned, to catch Leah where there's no cctv and to turn her phone off that quick, maybe we're looking at more than one person

 

[bringmeacupoft]

I still think it’s someone she knows or met, and they’ve waited for her and offered her a lift. The phone was switched off quickly so the person must have got the phone off her pretty quickly. I have a hunch the police are keeping an eye on someone and know more than we do.

I’m probably naive but what would police be waiting for? For them to drop evidence that would mean they could bring them in for questioning for example? Must be difficult if they have a person of interest and their hands are tied

 

[Plod]

I’m probably naive but what would police be waiting for? For them to drop evidence that would mean they could bring them in for questioning for example? Must be difficult if they have a person of interest and their hands are tied

Maybe not enough evidence yet, especially as they have no idea where she is. Maybe they have questioned people who are POI but they just haven’t enough evidence on them...

 

[bringmeacupoft]

Maybe not enough evidence yet, especially as they have no idea where she is. Maybe they have questioned people who are POI but they just haven’t enough evidence on them...

Ah yes quite logical really, I enjoy true crime programs but you don’t really see how they get to point of gather the evidence, so never sure how much they actually need etc. Something has got to give soon though

 

[KittyKatKrazy333]

I disagree.
Her phone being turned off located her last place of it being used.
No further sightings on cctv also gives information of how she must have disappeared. Even if it just eliminates her getting a bus.

I’ve been following Leah’s disappearance on here, but never publicly commented.
You say, “her phone being turned off located her last place of it being used”
Could you explain what you mean by this please?
I thought her phone model couldn’t be traced...I may of misinterpreted this though.
If the police know where Leah’s phone was when switched off, why hasn’t this information been given to the public?
Sorry, I just don’t get what you mean, so thanks in advance for explaining!
I’ve read that Leah last used her phone at 8am (not sure if it’s been disclosed who she rang, but I haven’t heard any more detail about this call) and that her phone was switched off at 8.30am, with Leah being seen midway through this timeframe, at 8.15am, crossing the footpath at Buzzacott Lane.
Looking at the route from Quantock Crescent to Buzzacott Lane, I would assume the 8 am phone call was around the time Leah was leaving home.
Was Leah ringing someone to say, “just leaving, see you in 20 minutes”? Guessing whoever she rang has been traced and eliminated from enquires though, so that theory hits a dead end.
If Leah’s phone was switched off by either herself, or her abductor, once Leah was in a vehicle, then that gives a 15 minute maximum walking radius from Buzzacott Lane to point of disappearance. Obviously, Leah could of been picked up 2 minutes from the last cctv sighting-turning her phone off may not of happened immediately.
This is all just my speculation, so thanks for your opinions.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Why would poi evidence trump making a national news appeal to potentially locate Leah more quickly?